[MBZ] Re 240D model Year Question
Larry T, Knew I saw that name someplace, its me, your new oil analysis customer. I just got done getting an email off to you when I stopped by here to have a look see and what do I see on the first post. And here I tried to steer you over to Dieselshop :-) My car is in fact a Euro, five speed 85, they just didn't import them here after 83. Small world :-) Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 113K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 40K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:10:51 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 240D model Year Question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi There, For a long time I thought the last year for the 240D was 1983 with the W201 replacing it s a 84 model - but I have seen a listing for a 85 240D in Craigs and I have a oil analysis customer who also says he has a 85 240D. Are these people just wrong when they say 1985 240D and my memory is faulty or do these guys have some Euro 240D's or something? Or maybe they just don't know what they have? Thx -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Re No tu rn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D
- Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:43 PM Subject:[MBZ] No tu rn signals and no 4-way flasher, 81 240D I examined all the fuses and replaced the ones listed for these items but it didn't help. Any ideas?? Thanks Harry I might have missed it, somebody might have already mentioned the relay under the consol forward of the shifter. That went out on me during a road trip, a new one was $40 but it fixed the problem. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:35:21 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Zeitgeist wrote: I'm presently without power, and may be for some time, due to recent wind storm activity. My generator blew up my surge protector, so I'm running my DSL modem off of the battery from my van, and using our laptop w/wireless. I strongly suspect our generator is malfunctioning and pumping an unregulated voltage supply, which unfortunately blows stuff up. Is there an external voltage rectifying unit I can purchase which will avoid this situation so it doesn't keep happening every time I fire up the generator? The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. This is what I was looking at http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200#
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
My apologies for no signature, I must have been overwhelmed with joy to be shutting the generator down:-) Google turned up several of those units and that was one of the least expensive. I wanted one without the UPS, just something too make sure the power is cleaned up before getting to my transfer switch. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 12 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:54:38 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:51:44 -0800 Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I'm presently without power, and may be for some time, due to recent wind storm activity. My generator blew up my surge protector, so I'm running my DSL modem off of the battery from my van, and using our laptop w/wireless. I strongly suspect our generator is malfunctioning and pumping an unregulated voltage supply, which unfortunately blows stuff up. Is there an external voltage rectifying unit I can purchase which will avoid this situation so it doesn't keep happening every time I fire up the generator? The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. This is what I was looking at http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200# Lots of interesting specs, but they're missing the important ones. Like, what input voltage range gives what output voltage range? The idea is a good one, though. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor
Message: 17 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:11:27 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MICHAEL ESH wrote: Is this a brush problem and can I order just the brushes? Sounds like bad brush contact or a busted winding. If the shaft is sliding when you change orientation an unworn part of the commutator could make contact with the worn brushes and make it run intermittently. A lister had some brushes made a few years ago, I don't know if he'd have any left and I can't remember who he was. (was it Jaime?) You can buy appliance brushes at your local Ace Hardware and whittle them down to fit. They wont last as long as the original ones or I have heard that ones for a Volvo, p/n 1362710, will work. Somebody give them a try and report back.
Re: [MBZ] Trunk rust from rain
Its likely your rear windshield gasket is leaking, if this be so you may see water dripping down on the wheel well part (rounded) of your plastic trunk well liners, Thats not a cheap fix and, around here anyway, they wont be responsible if the glass breaks. Steve Message: 15 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:17:14 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trunk rust from rain To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Don't know, Randy. I've yet to look into this trunk seal thing. I just was obsessed with irradicating the rust that the problem caused. Wanted the auto to be totally rust-free. I'm assuming that by trunk seal you guys simply mean the rubber ring around the trunk opening. Have any of you guys that occasionally get water in the trunk looked into how much rust you may have as a restult? Just curious if you guys thought it'd be enough a problem to look into, or if it'd take longer for it to make any appreciable difference than the vehicle will last? Brian 83 240D Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
[MBZ] RE OT: Submerged Maritime Heritage Resource USS Macon
Larry T Thanks for posting that, very interesting indeed. In the early '60s I worked as deckhand on a tug and we delivered JP4 to Moffite (sp?) Field and I remember walking the pipe line ashore and checking out those hangers, they where huge. I could keep a whole lot of 240Ds in just one of them. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Submerged Maritime Heritage Resource USS Macon This is a really interesting web site about the USS Macon, a large airship that crashed off the California coast in 1935. It was powered by eight large 560-horsepower gasoline powered German built Maybach reversible engines. (Was Maybach part of the MB or DB company back then?). And it carried airplanes it could launch and recover. Anyway, the wreckage was located and lots of photos taken, some very interesting history. These big airships were so cool. http://montereybay.noaa.gov/research/macon/macon.html Enjoy!
[MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
Darrell Thanks for the info. I just went out to check my newest parts car, an automatic, 82, 240D. It has them (no white or silver markings tho) including the wheel covers with the rollers..yaahoo. I also have another parts car with the rims that have the holes all around but they are steel, That must have been the new style (after 81+-) and only the aluminum ones used the wheel cover clips with the rollers. What is the deal with the 5.5 vrs the 6 width, I assume the wider one for the bigger MBs and would'nt be found on a 240? Regards Steve Message: 14 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:39:15 -0400 From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed VC, MB did this in '81/'82 to lighten the overall weight. I have two sets, the 5.5 and the 6 width. One set has the four silver strips and the other has the full circle silver ring. MB had a special wheel cover clip with a nylon cover to keep from damaging the soft aluminum wheel where the cover snaps on. Robby Ackerman put a set on his 190SL and painted them the Pea Green color of the car. He also put the three 'keepers' that the small original hub caps snap onto. I spotted them the first time I saw the 190SL because of the 'holes' in the wheels. BTW, they are light in weight. DWS Van Cleve wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? I don't mean the alloy Bundts we are all familiar with, these Aluminum rims look just like the steel ones but have four dabs of white paint and are way lighter. I put a set off a parts car on my 79 240D and I swear, I can tell the difference. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims
They came on 240d w123s, and are IIRC .5 narrower than the steel rims. That seems odd, I wonder why they did that, anyway thanks for the info. I was pleased to see I had another set which will go on my Euro 85 :-) Regards Steve Message: 13 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:32:45 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII on 9/30/06 11:26 AM, Van Cleve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious... does anyone know anything about the aluminum rims that some W123s came with, what year, good and bad points?? They came on 240d w123s, and are IIRC .5 narrower than the steel rims. Highly desirable if you were running steel rims on your 240d. No downside that I am aware of, and YEAH what a weight difference over those steel rims. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s
[MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in
Kaleb I'm a long waz from a cummins expert but...I really like my five speed,12 valve cummins. Dont need 4wd, extended cab or dually but I get 23-24 mpg towing cars which is what I was after. I do like the six speed trannys in the newer models tho, which might compensate for the more temperamental IP. The only thing I dont like about my 94 is that velour upholstery, miss that MT Tex . Happy truck hunting Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 23 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:20:59 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT, cummins, experts chime in To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well I went and test drove a couple of dodge cummins today. First up was a 05 1 ton dually, long bed, 4 door, 4 wheel drive , with leaver in the floor for switching, with 6 speed manual. I liked it for the fact that it has the 6 speed, seems like it would get better mileage than the autos. It needs all new tires pretty soon, especially in the back and probably alignment. Rode like a 1 ton of course. Shifted good. Is a BIG truck. Seems like the rear end was howling. Are they supposed to howl on these? Price as 23k had 101k miles. Next truck was a 03 2500, short bed, electronic 4 wheel drive, automatic, 4 door. It had leather, rode smoother, didnt pull to one side. Price on it was 21.5k. I can say I REALLY love that cummins motor after driving one of them. What do you cummins ownere thing about this? Good prices? Keep looking? What kind of mileage will that 1 ton get with the 6 speed? Will it be worse than the other truck with automatic 3/4 ton? The thing that had me worried was the rear end howling on the other 1 ton truck. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ring gear spun on
Back on the road. She runs smooth with the replacement flywheel, clutch disc and p/p. Seems to be running a little hot, something to deal with tomorrow :-) Thanks for the help Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] ring gear spun on f/w
Yah, that sounds logical, that sucker musta really got warm. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Heat from slipping clutch toasted the clutch and heated the flywheel enough to dislodge the shrunk-on ring gear? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] ring gear spun on f/w
That would mean...If I use a used f/w the ring gear should be removed, and a new one installed after matching the balance of the old f/w. I spoz I could have them put the ring gear that was taken off the replacement, back on, its in good shape. thanks for the help Steve Message: 20 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:54:41 -0400 From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ring gear spun on f/w To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Van Cleve wrote: BTW neither the original or replacement F/Ws have alignment marks (except mine) so I'm just bolting it up and hopping for the best :-) If I remember my OM616 engine balancing info correctly, the flywheel is neutral balanced to the crank except during replacement - in that case, the new flywheel should be static balanced to the one coming off the car (and you make your own witness marks). -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 272+kmi 1980 300TD 183+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi 1972 220 278+kmi
[MBZ] ring gear spun on f/w
Any one ever had a ring gear that came adrift from the flywheel? I bought a parts/fixerupper manual, 77 240D (from a list member actually) knowing it had a toasted clutch and a starter problem. I pulled everything apart yesterday and the clutch material came down in chunks and powder, (gag) I have a flywheel from a parts car that I will use as I think the original f/w would be ruined because the ring gear spins around quite freely. I am wondering, simply out of curiosity,... the toasted clutch and the spun ring gear must be related, but how? The car couldn't be driven with either one of the problems. This isnt a rant or complaint, its going to be a nice car, just wondering if anyone has had this problem. BTW neither the original or replacement F/Ws have alignment marks (except mine) so I'm just bolting it up and hopping for the best :-) Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
[MBZ] 82 Euro TD
About a year and a half ago I bought an 82 Euro 300TD with the intention of converting it to a 240TD and using it for our road car, something we could sleep in comfortably should the need arise. Tried sleeping in my sedan ONCE, I'm too old for that crap :-) The engine has low compression and only started when oil was injected into the cylinders .it ran and sounded fine once started. Nothing traumatic happened so it would be a good candidate for a rebuild. I pulled the engine and tranny, cleaned the engine compartment and was going to install a 616 with a manual as I have also installed the pedal assembly. I have a new convertible top hydraulic pump with hoses to use for the SLS. Of course a 617 (non turbo) could be used as the old pump is in fine working order (as is the entire SLS) The car has a couple of spots of rust on the bottom of the doors and a couple small dings but looks very nice. I spent close to $500 having the seats fixed up and the upholstery put back in original looking condition, which are cloth with MB tex outer panels (black) The interior is very nice, no cracks in the dash and manual heater. I pulled it outa the barn and took some pics of it yesterday and plan to post them on one of those photo hosting sites. I'm into it $1300 and need the covered storage space. I plan to list it on Craigs list if no one around here is interested. The reason I quit the project was I found a low mileage Dodge/Cummins PU which has become our road vehicle, Send me an email if interested as I sometimes get behind reading the list this time of year. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
[MBZ] 82 Euro TD
Message: 20 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:53:21 -0700 From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 82 Euro TD To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Forgot to mention, I'm on the Olympic Peninsula near Port Townsend Wa Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link
Well I'm an old guy too so waiting for you to kick off might not be an option :-D Maybe some body remembers that post about a clip from another engine being used to pull the chain through, I was gona call Rusty and get oneOh well, shoulda, woulda, coulda Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 19 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:27:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have one from an old chain, back in the days when it was supplied as part of the replacement. I got it from a real old timer, and I am an old timer too. So mine's pretty old. And worn. But it works. You need to find a benevolent old timer. I will put you in my will, you can have mine when I die. (c: ( may not be too far off (c: ) Richard PS, loosing the bits down a hole is the reason you own one of those super magnet screwdrivers from Autozone. Bitty magnet, lotsa power. It will lift a whole timing chain by the end. Long story, good ending (c: Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link
MathieuThank you...Thats what I was looking for. I do stuff rags down in that chain cavity in accordance to Murphy's law :-) Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:45:49 -0400 From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Order a master clip for an m100 car (p/n 0009970598). It will work just fine. Also, I place many rags in the chain cavity so that if something should fall, it will land on the rag or fall outside of the motor. This is critical to do when grinding/breaking the old chain as well as covering the cam and other open and sensitive areas. Follow the instructions posted on Dieselgiant's web site. That tutorial was photographed at my shop. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com
Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link
Huh, I had no idea anything could be found at Ace that would work in such a particular application. I'll have a look see, Thanks for the tip. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 82 TD project wagon 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:25:27 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] timing chain temp link To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 4/13/2006 8:15:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where does one get one of these temporary clip links. I have done several T chains and its a PIA to do and undo the regular master link. I remember a post sometime back about using a clip style master link from some other model (other than a 617/6) for pulling the chain through. I assume Rusty would have the link if I knew what to ask for. One could spoil the day by losing all or part of a clip down the hole :'( Any good hardware store should have them in their assortment boxes. I was looking at the box at Ace hardware and though I didn't need one, thought they had all the sizes. I would not hesitate to use the clip type as a permanent clip, as that is what MB used for years. The opening of the clip is supposed to be at the back of the chain link, looking at the rotation being CW from the front. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles
[MBZ] Re woodie mercedes
Mr Haases's woodie is really something :-) NO, really .. :-) :-) Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: [MBZ] woodie mercedes Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:31:23 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Message: 3 http://tinyurl.com/dsqhl
[MBZ] Trunk lock
This has happened to me. I've told wife, daughter and anyone else that would lesion, NOT to unlock the trunk with the key. Unlock the drivers door then open the trunk. I finally got mine open by messing with it, as in, lock the drivers door, turn the key in the trunk lock and any other combination of lockings and unlockings you can think of. I have drilled out a couple on broken W123s (parts cars) as a final resort, you dont want to go there. :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Subject: [MBZ] Trunk lock Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:11:13 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 13 Help! The trunk on my '83 300D won't open using vacuum or key and needed tools are inside. I've tried the Mighty-Vac on both lines going to the trunk lid and fuel door by disconnecting each line from the four way connectors on the floor at the right door. I've tried both types of keys that came with the car. None of the keys will turn the lock. Does anyone know of a way to manually unlock the trunk? The only alternative I can think of is taking it to a lock and key shop. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 240D and 300D
Re: [MBZ] prechambers, was speaking of loop type GP's
Peter Thank you for the in depth post comparing DI to IDI engines. I still prefer driving my 5 spd 240s over my Dodge CTD although its nice not to be bothered by tail gaters , BTW I towed a broken 240D home and got 23 MPG (230 miles, half that with the tow) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] prechambers, was speaking of loop type GP's Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:46:39 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 6 There are lots of design compromises in diesel engines, and there are notable differences in DI and IDI engines as currently produced beyond injection type -- notably, the US made DI engines are almost exclusively long stroke, limited rpm engines (3000 rpm max) with low compression and VERY high boost (20 psi) so that the effective compression ratio under load is similar to a Benz or Volvo short stroke, high rpm engine (up to 5500 rather than 3000 rpm), high compression rato (21:1 and up -- Volvo diesels may be as high as 26:1 as built). However, the direct injection engine WILL produce more hp and torque at the design rpm due to better combustion efficency (sideways sprays out from the injector rather than a directed flame from a pre-chamber) -- but ONLY at that rpm, not much higher or lower. They toss rods when oversped significantly, like any other engine. The cost is NOISE, and since most US diesels don't have variable injection timing, smoke and poor efficiency off peak rpm. Used to be much worse, just watch an old Detroit, Mack, or Cummins over the road truck at a stoplight -- about the time the black smoke starts to taper off under load, the driver has to change gears! And I'm not talking just a little smoke, either! In modern engines, especially the Cummins sixes, the smoke problem is mostly gone unless user modified, but the noise and inflexibility are still there, hence the lousy milage those engines produce. 17 mpg in a large empty pickup at 65 mph with a diesel is horrible -- my 72 280 SE 4.5 does that good! That engine should produce 25-28 mpg at that speed and load. They are nearly bullet proof, produce prodigous horsepower at peak rpm, and do fine on fuel at that speed. Prechamber engines, on the other hand, are usually very quiet, very flexible (wide rpm range with usable hp and torque), but tend to use more fuel because the thermal effeciency is lower - it's very hard to get excessive exhaust gas temps because the fire will be quenched due to lack of oxygen in the prechamber when more fuel is added. On a DI engine, it's fairly easy to keep adding fuel and air and melt the pistons becuase all the fuel will burn every time. The lower thermal effeciency is partially overcome by the higher compression ratio, since higher compression will give you better themal usage reguardless of other design considerations (and they are easier to start cold, too!) The fuel efficency overall, however, isn't that simple. Once you're off the peak rpm in a DI engine, fuel use goes up fast and hp/torque goes down fast, so unless you have an infinitely variable transmission or LOTS of gear ratios to choose from, the speed at which you get good milage is restricted. This was a major problem when speed limits were lowered in teh 70s as most trucks were running at the wrong rpm -- in those days, the power band was as small as 1900-2200 rpm! Off that, no power, stalling on hills, etc, and running a gear down results in even worse milage It's great fun to read engine specs for diesels of all types -- the difference between US practice and everyone else in the world is astonishing. Both Detroit and Volvo make large marine engines (3000 hp or so) -- the Detroit is a huge, triple turbo 18:1 engine that weighs almost twice as much as the Volvo Penta -- 23:1 compression, 5000 rpm vs 2200, since tubo, considerably smaller. Both have a history of dependability, but I'mm willing to bet the Volvo uses somewhat less fuel in varied use The new Jeep diesel is a Detroit, typical low compression engine, and while it has good torque numbers, the milage STINKS -- barely 20! My brother's SDL gets 28 on the highway, hauling a heavier body with only a four speed, not a six speed tranny. I suspect a 60x turbo Benz 2.5L would give more power, with less fuel consumption (and not much more in cost, either, since that Detroit adds $4k to the price!) There are lots of ways around the barn with internal combustion engines, and diesel engines haven't had
[MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today
Kevin of Hillsboro Nice score. I had no idea crank windows were an option on that truck. I would much rather have the vinyl for the doggy hauling capabilities also. you know about the Turbo diesel Register, right ? http://www.turbodieselregister.com/ there a couple more too. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] dieselvolk swarm soybean oil section at Costco today Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:38:43 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 12 Oregoon is testing a system of taxing you for miles driven, not fuel purchases. Was that word Oregoon types on purpose? If such a system ever manages to make it into practice, I'll have to find another one with a broken odometer. I did find A 03 Dodge Cummins quad cab pickup that will be running biodiesel. The right one came along, 6 spd, 23K miles, matching canopy/shell, 2wd, AC, crank-up windows and vinyl everything, perfect and doggie friendly as well! A new one would have set me back over $40K, and I was lucky enough to find this one for just over half price. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 2003 Dodge 2500 Cummins Diesel P/U, 23K miles, no name yet, still between MB diesels
[MBZ] Re 1977 300D Glow Plug Conversion
Tom Thats about what I did on a couple cars. The pencil type plugs that come in the larger thread size are more $ than the 12mm ones but well worth it in my mind. You should change the 50 amp strip fuse to the 80 amp one and cut your glow time way down (5-10 sec +-) Sorry dont have the P/N Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: [MBZ] 1977 300D Glow Plug Conversion Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:35:18 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 5 For a 1977 300D, want to convert from filament type plugs to pencil type plugs. Understand that I will need a pencil type plug by Bosch that has the same thread size as my existing type filement type Bosch plugs. Question: does anyone have the exact Bosch part number for these types of plugs. Understand to change from series electrically need to disconnect the braided ground wire. Will use 10 guage wire connectors between pencil plugs. No timer change out is required. Is this the jist of this? Thanks in advance. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump
I have had those little suckers fail (no pun intended) but I cant say I remember just what happened besides the pump wouldn't work. I took a good valve out of another pump and it worked fine. I do remember those little valves were spendy, there easy enough to check just make sure you putem back, the way they came out :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:20:05 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 19 Okay. boys...this vacuum pump deal is getting odd. All the other failures I've ever experienced has had oil spewing into the air cleaner housing. This failure is different. The car will not shut off (I've checked the shutoff valve SAT...it holds vacuum like mad). There is NO oil getting into the air cleaner housing. The cruise still works. The HVAC is no wierder than usual. But there seems to be oil getting into the vacuum lines where oil hasn't been before. When the main check valves in the vacuum pump fail, what happens? Any ideas. Bob Rentfro (if the hood release cable fails, I ain't goin' nowhere) '77 300D 141K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Inj Pump Timing/first gear start
Larry Speaking as a new wrench especially when I first timed my daughters brand new to her, 240D..The bubble method was MUCH easier and your not apt too make a big mess of fuel all over the floor. Der bubble method Make sure the vacuum line is REMOVED from the shut off switch on the back of the IP, Remove the delivery valve like with the drip method, but connect a hose (hose A) and put the end down in a jar of water. Rotate the engine to the 24 degree mark. there is a fuel line going from the upper left portion of the pump to the fuel filter. Disconnect it at the pump and rig another hose, I or 2 feet long, on the banjo fitting and reconnect it back to the pump.(hose B) Use a clean piece if hose cause your gona blow through it, Rotate the eng slowly (Oh god...by hand :-) ) while blowing gently through hose B .If your pump is in time the bubbles will stop at 24 degrees, If not, adjust accordingly. (advance = toward the eng) It'l take a few rotations, dont forget to go around twice to get back I have another banjo fitting with the hose (B) and the other hose (A) in a zip lock in my tool box so its quick and easy too rig up. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Inj Pump Timing/first gear starts Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:33:22 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 1 Larry, . As to the timing of the pump, if you have compressed air at low pressure, the bubble method is really clean and dead on reliable. I think you are going to find that you are right on already, the way you describe your performance.
[MBZ] Dont let this happen to you
From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: [MBZ] Dont let this happen to you Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:56:39 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 20 he would mail it to me when he found it. OOPS LOL he didnt mail the car :-) I shoulda said the Certificate or Ownership I have always been pretty careful about squaring away the paper work when buying or selling a car. I bought a 5 speed 240D once and took the car with a promise from the owner, he would mail it to me when he found it. (I was taking that car home one way or the other, damn the torpedos) He mailed it and all was well...WHEWOther than that I dont take too many chances Anyway I just got a letter that a van my wife used to own (2 yrs ago) ...NO DOES OWN according to the letter from the towing co in a town several miles away.(coulda been in Bumfuk Egypt) The letter went on to say that OUR VANs been in storage for 11/2 mos at $32+ :'( a day plus the tow bill :'( :'( . So I look through my files for the receipt from the Wa dept of licensing that I ALWAYS go on line to get after selling a car, the report of sale. The car had been abandoned and I am responsible :-( for it Long story short, turns out I had gone on line and filed the notice of sale which I did find my copy of, later berried in my shop. i was reminded to do a better job with paper work, Sorta like when the jack slips and you realize you coulda been squished. I felt like I was about to get roasted :-)I know there are far worse horror stories but this got my attention. And turned out OK Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Re dont let this happen to you
Heres the part that had me a little worried, Steve They'l never take me alive :-) AS A RESULT OF A LAW PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE EFFECTIVE 06-1 3-02, A NEW SECTION RELATING TO ABANDONED VEHICLES HAS BEEN ADDED TO R.C.W. 46,55. UNDER THIS SECTION THE LAST REGISTERED OWNER OF RECORD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ABANDONMENT OF ANY VEHICLE AND WILL BE LIABLE FOR ANY COSTS INCURRED IN REMOVING, STORING AND D~SPOSINC OF VEHICLE. NOTE: Failure to redeem an abandoned vehicle constitutes the traffic infraction of littering - -abandon vehicle. Penalties for this infraction may include, but not be limited to, a $250.00 fine, which cannot be reduced (ROW 46.63.110 (2)), suspension of all driving privilages (ROW 46.20.289) and other penalties as may be imposed by a court.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53
Maybe so but i don't want to be the guinea pig ;-) Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know why I look this way. I've travelled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved. Steve From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re dont let this happen to you Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:36:43 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 18 On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:03:44PM -0700, Van Cleve wrote: Heres the part that had me a little worried, Steve They'l never take me alive :-) AS A RESULT OF A LAW PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE EFFECTIVE 06-1 3-02, A NEW SECTION RELATING TO ABANDONED VEHICLES HAS BEEN ADDED TO R.C.W. 46,55. UNDER THIS SECTION THE LAST REGISTERED OWNER OF RECORD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ABANDONMENT OF ANY VEHICLE AND WILL BE LIABLE FOR ANY COSTS INCURRED IN REMOVING, STORING AND D~SPOSINC OF VEHICLE. NOTE: Failure to redeem an abandoned vehicle constitutes the traffic infraction of littering - -abandon vehicle. Penalties for this infraction may include, but not be limited to, a $250.00 fine, which cannot be reduced (ROW 46.63.110 (2)), suspension of all driving privilages (ROW 46.20.289) and other penalties as may be imposed by a court. BZT That's an ordinance that is going to get burned on the first appeal. K -
[MBZ] Dont let this happen to you
I have always been pretty careful about squaring away the paper work when buying or selling a car. I bought a 5 speed 240D once and took the car with a promise from the owner, he would mail it to me when he found it. (I was taking that car home one way or the other, damn the torpedos) He mailed it and all was well...WHEWOther than that I dont take too many chances Anyway I just got a letter that a van my wife used to own (2 yrs ago) ...NO DOES OWN according to the letter from the towing co in a town several miles away.(coulda been in Bumfuk Egypt) The letter went on to say that OUR VANs been in storage for 11/2 mos at $32+ :'( a day plus the tow bill :'( :'( . So I look through my files for the receipt from the Wa dept of licensing that I ALWAYS go on line to get after selling a car, the report of sale. The car had been abandoned and I am responsible :-( for it Long story short, turns out I had gone on line and filed the notice of sale which I did find my copy of, later berried in my shop. i was reminded to do a better job with paper work, Sorta like when the jack slips and you realize you coulda been squished. I felt like I was about to get roasted :-)I know there are far worse horror stories but this got my attention. And turned out OK Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?
You may remember me from such famous threads a whats this on my 240D. ...Thought I'd start a new one as, as I'm getting into some of the real meat of this rebuild. Heres where I am...no ridge (some carbon) in the cylinders and NO cross hatches, Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil pump, chain tensioner shoe, (guides). It doesn't look like its been too many miles since this overhaul All the valves are nice and tight in the guideseverything looks new. Crank is a little scratched (one journal ), can be fixed.One rod needs replacing and I have one thats 13 grams heavier (19) than the blue one (17) Can the machine shop trim that 13 grams off my new rod?? The shop manual doesn't get into that . I need to take the crank in anyway. Its nice to have some rain, been looking fwd to this shop job :-) Thanks for looken Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump?
I've always thought a tear drop trailer with wheel covers to match, would look way cool behind on of my 240Ds (two sets of wheel covers, of course). I even considered building one till my wife pointed out whens the last time we went camping? :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:47:51 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Too big for Gump? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/101882076.html Would this be too much to tow behind Gump? Ultimately it depends on the weight, but that looks like a pretty light trailer. Shouldn't be a problem. It'd look really pretty behind a Mercedes. I think a small trailer is the best of both worlds, really. You aren't tempted to bring along too much stuff, but you can sleep off the ground where your stuff won't get wet if there's a rainstorm. I used to borrow my parents' Jayco pop-up camper and tow it behind my Volvo 240 wagon.
Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...?
Thanks for the shop info. I haven't decided just where I will take the crank. I will for sure use new cap nut bolts. Last time I did this I couldn't find a place that still does hot tanking so i washed the block (oil galleries) with hot water soap myself and gave it the blow dry. I just need to get things assessed. I will ask about polishing the crank in the proper direction. Steve From: Don Teresa Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Con Rod trim...? Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:28:10 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Don Teresa Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 7 A automotive machine shop that has engine balancing equipment can make all the rods weigh the same within a gram. There are some in the Olympia area, look under high performance or speed shop in the yellow pages. George Johnson a little south of Olympia would be a good one. Going to do the job correctly? Get the big end of all your rods re sized. The process is to take about a half thousandth off the parting services and then honing back to standard rod bore on a connecting rod rod resizing machine. Replacing all the rod bolts nuts would be real smart. Scratches on the crank bearing journals, instant bearing death unless the crank is machined. One old timers trick was to take a old copper penny and drag it across the journal and if it left copper the crank was N/G. Now the challenge is to find a old soft copper penny. There is a machine shop in Portland, West Bearing, that does mucho diesel work, big little stuff, and they have good crank grinders and the staff that knows how to lean on the machine to make a good grind. A question you can ask is do they polish the crank in the proper direction? This will tell you if they really have their s--t together. Get the cylinder bores measured for taper before you do anything to the bore. Do you plan to get the block Hot Tanked as in chemically cleaning the oil passages and water passages? Adios On 10/6/05, Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may remember me from such famous threads a whats this on my 240D. ...Thought I'd start a new one as, as I'm getting into some of the real meat of this rebuild. Heres where I am...no ridge (some carbon) in the cylinders and NO cross hatches, Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil pump, chain tensioner shoe, (guides). It doesn't look like its been too many miles since this overhaul All the valves are nice and tight in the guideseverything looks new. Crank is a little scratched (one journal ), can be fixed. One rod needs replacing and I have one thats 13 grams heavier (19) than the blue one (17) Can the machine shop trim that 13 grams off my new rod?? The shop manual doesn't get into that . I need to take the crank in anyway. Its nice to have some rain, been looking fwd to this shop job :-) Thanks for looken Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
DaveI think I heard that term someplace from way back whenever and really never knew what it meant either but when I took the rod cap and the bearing was paper thin and even squished up the side 1/4 , it Looked like a spun bearing that had stopped spinning to me :-) That crank had really hammered it, of course now I'm real sorry I tried to drive it home :'( Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:46 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D What does it mean to Spin a Bearing - or Spun a Bearing? Spin, Span, Spun - whatever... Thanks -Dave Walton
[MBZ] Flyblown
Flyblown is when flies lay their eggs(which turn into maggots) around the sheep's behind, which leads to a rather slow painful death for the sheep involved(if not treated in time). Think thousands of maggots eating you alive. Man, its nice to be reminded now and then why we quit raising those critters. Did you hear they found another use for sheep in ...never mind, next someone will start with the camel jokes :-) :'( Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] overbored - was:Whats this stuff on my 240D
Philip Oops, I shoulda said bore the sleeve. When you resleeve the engine you must have them bored to fit the pistons. (std) You can buy the oversized pistons and have the sleeves bored to fit them. Which I did on the last rebuild I did, Hay.. every little extra cube counts with 67 HP :-D Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] overbored - was:Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:50:14 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 13 rumor has it that Van wrote: There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today. I thought the 615 and 617 were sleeved. Can you bore those? Or do you remove the sleeves, bore, and put it oversize sleeves, or Or I'm I just loosing it? Philip, Inquiring minds want to know
[MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:57:16 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 4 Kevin wrote: There was something about a weak timing cover in the cummins, can't remember if it was on the 24v engines or the 12v engines. All I can remember is the killer dowel pin, which was fixed somewhere around 1996-1998 IIRC. I think it wasn't a problem after 1998 I'm a new Dodge/Cumming Truck owner but I learned real quick that MY truck was a possible candidate for the KDP . The killer dowl pin is in the block and is for aliening the timing case. Allot have fallen OUT , best case scenario, cracked timing case, worst case gets ugly and expensive :'(. I had mine taken care of by a big rig shop owner, friend. he charged my $200, which I think is good :-) I wasn't ready to dig into that Cummins, YET its allot different than my little 240Ds. Heres a good place to start for Dodge/Cummins info and theres are more. http://www.turbodieselregister.com/or for bio http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x/a/frm/f/415106403. Allot of chit chat over there is about the dreaded KDP, Sigh, I dont have nightmares anymore :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K .
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
I have no idea who did the rebuild but it was down in San Diego :'( I'm kind of a beginner at this but I have seen the inside of a couple 616s and I dont quite get the no ridge and no cross hatchs, even I know that aint right :-) Allot of the parts in the eng look new, oil pump, chain tensioner shoe, (guides). It doesn't look like its been too many miles since this overhaul Steve -- Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know why I look this way. I've travelled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved. From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:22:15 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 8 sounds like the overhaul consisted of a valve job. I had a job like that foisted on me by the stealership in Memphis back in 72. That is how I learned to be a diesel mechanic. At 11:26 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote: I pulled the head off and the pistons out yesterday and the sides if the cylinder walls were totally smooth and polished, NO cross hatch marks at all, #1 piston had spun a bearing and the crank is a little scratched, which I think can be repaired. The rod is somewhat discolored about 2'' up from the big end., which proly means replacement, hopefully I have one the same weight in my spare parts bin. There is no ridge at the top of the cyl walls but my plan is to have the block bored for o/s pistons. So far the valve guides look good but will finish checking them out today.
[MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready
Geeze...Talk about loosing at Russian roulette,, big time bummer I made a trip to Or and another to CA knowing I could loose the game :'( Then theres the 5th gear nut but at least you can carry on in 4th Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K From: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel Biodiesel ready Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:21:07 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 6 I remember reading on our TDR page that a member drove to a KDP party which was 100 plus miles and his pin came out on the way there, bummer! Rory
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:14:28 -0500 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: ![EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 3 The vacuum gizmo is part of the vacuum circuit for the transmission. It's used to modify the vacuum signal based on throttle position. If it were 300 engine than I'd suspect that the pipe is the turbo oil drain, but this is a 240 engine. Where does the other end of the pipe go? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ontent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:21:16 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Message: 4 The vacuum gizmo is the egr controller, you can discard it since you don't have one. There will also be an EGR valve on the intake manifold. The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Likely the rebuilder put WAY too much clearance on the valve guides, unless familiar with Benz practice. Easy way to check is to pull the cam and remove a couple valve springs. If the valve will preceptibly move sidways when lowered down off the seat, there is too much clearance. The other likely problem is way too much piston clearance, and that you can only check by taking them out. Should be 0.001, very tight. You can check for wear by pulling the head (as I'm sure you will be doing). Unless run out of oil until the engine seized, likely the crank and rods are fine, they don't cause problems in that engine. Pistons may be shot, too, if there was excessive clearance, it causes the rings to flex sideways and extrudes the ring lands. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Loren...Hah...So thats it.. i've had several 240s and never seen these things. Additionally there is what looks like a double vacuum fitting, on the T-stat housing close to where it bolts to the block, another 83 thing, I spoz :-) Thanks for the help Regards Steve From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:09:03 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 13 Not so. At 10:21 AM 10/2/2005, you wrote: The pipe going into the oil pan is the drain from the oil separator in the air filter housing, all W123 diesels have one. Our 81 240D does not have one. The only 240D i have seen WITH one is the 83. I am not sure if 82 it mit or without. None of the 81 and earlier 4cyl diesels have this extra drain. I took off the vacuum gizmo and just put a cork in the top of the second drain pipe when i put an 83 engine in the 81.
Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
Trampas When I pulled the engine, I took the vac pump off to use on another car and it was fine. Its not raining today and although I should be out putting up fire wood, I'm gona pull the pan and find out whats going on. When I bought the car the oil usage was the minor problem. I started to drive it home as the knock wasn't that bad but it got progressively worse so after a few miles I parked it and picked it up with the dolly next day. The rest of the car was in great shape, what a crime. I put another engine in it sold it to a buddy that has been looking for a nice 240. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 08:16:56 -0400 To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 1 Did you check and see if vacuum pump was pumping oil into intake? Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van Cleve Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D Tom Peter...thanks for the help Where does the other end of the pipe go? Dont remember, I pulled the engine last spring, put it on the stand and figured it was something to do with being a Ca car and I would do away with it anyway. I was just curious as to what it was. and how to plug the hole in the pan=-O I pulled the head today (rainy day...yaaa) and will check those valve stems tomorrow. I sure hope your right about the crank being OK Peter ;-) So far pulling the engine apart, there are no signs of a shoddy engine assembly job, all the washers in place etc..., nothing amiss as far as I can tell so far, but tomorrow I 'll get to the bottom end. All the gaskets, including head gasket look new. Thanks again, I'll report on the bottom end tomorow. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Whats this stuff on my 240D
I have an engine I took out of a manual 83 240D that I plan to rebuild this fall. Its a Ca car if that makes any diff. Sorry I dont have a pic of this, but there is a vacuum gizmo on top of the IP that is hooked into the throttle linkage..Can anyone tell me what this is? Also there is a pipe going into the top of the oil pan (passenger side of eng) Whats this all about?? This engine was supposedly rebuild down in So Ca but it used a qt of lub oil every 200 miles, and the gal (PO) got tired of adding oil..So I bought it when it started knocking, pulled the eng and now I will get around to investigating. I'm hopping the crank is not toast..sigh, ;-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] fuel from dead cats
Christopher...Thanks for sending the links, really appreciate it :-) Steve http://www.alphakat.de/index.html http://www.changingworldtech.com/ http://www.res-energy.com/ The first one is the German one - different process than the American. The second two are the same company...they are the one's operating the plant in Carthage, MO converting butterball turkey guts to D2 and D4. Fascinating stuff. Christopher --- Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone send my the original link. I havent been around to follow this thread and would now like to check it out, This idea of using the tons of biomass that go to waste every day, too fuel our cars is intriguing. I'll send it to my connection on the hill :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Using dead cats as fuel
Could someone send my the original link. I havent been around to follow this thread and would now like to check it out, This idea of using the tons of biomass that go to waste every day, too fuel our cars is intriguing. I'll send it to my connection on the hill :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
Wow...the TRUTH at last, you would stake your favorite MB on these FACTS ?? :-) Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:55:20 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 19 http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8693 By Ben Stein Published 9/2/2005 11:59:59 PM A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth: 1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying. 2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one. Yata,Yata,Yata
Re: [MBZ] Running cables through the firewall - W123
Like Philip, the mad engineer said use a Ford starting solenoid and you can use your ONE battery to power a HEAVY draw without running mongo big wires into the cabin, thats what solenoids do :-) I use one with the push button switch for my glow plugs so I dont have to use a huge switch and wire as the GPs draw (80amps) Its not a big deal to wire up. They'l show you at the auto parts store where you get the solenoid. You can run the small wires (14 ga) through into the cabin next to fuse box. The round rubber thing that the vacuum lines run through. There a couple other places too. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running cables through the firewall - W123 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:24:58 -0500 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] which to buy?
My, new to me, 94 Dodge (Cummins) used 10 gals of fuel when I drove 230 miles and picked up a broken 240D, Thats 23 MPG with a tow for half that 230 mile run. Talk about an improvement over my old 67 Ford gasser :-) :-) egards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] which to buy? Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:20:20 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 2 On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 03:36:05PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Your dodge only gets 20mpg? That sounds pretty damn good for me. My 1 ton only gets about 12-14 but I only use it for hauling things. The ISB cummins is known for getting the best fuel economy of the greaseburner trucks from the big three. The GM 6.5 turbo with the electronic pump is known for hoarding the other end of the scale. K R
[MBZ] Re flaky oil gauge-240D
Dwight Have you changed the O-rings on the oil filter stem? Thats a cheap place to start. Also there are a couple of ground attachments in back of the instrument cluster that might need the tighten up Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K I have been noticing that my oil gauge fluttered at idle around 20 psi but smoothed out as soon as it went up. I thought maybe it was a rough idle problem.Last night it started to flutter in the 30 range. Then coming down my street and in the driveway I heard a light clattering noise in the dash behind the cluster and the gauge fluttered at 40 psi. Noise would stop when I pegged it at 45 psi. Anybody have any advice? I don't recall seeing this problem on the list over the past 3 years. TIA. Dwight Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles Wickford, RI
[MBZ] Speedy Bleeder adaptor
Does anyone have the address of Speedy Bleeder where I can get an adaptor for my new to me, Dodge Ram. The printing on the pressure bottle has been erased by brake fluid and I cant find the shipping info I once had, even Goggle has turned up nothing. Maybe I'm spelling the name wrong. Its the bleeder that gets its pressure from the tire. This has been a great tool but I fear the company may longer be around :'( Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Speedy Bleeder adapto
Thanks Dennis I hadn't spelled the name right in my searchs. Its a good tool and worth getting more adaptors. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dennis Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: [MBZ] Re: Speedy Bleeder adaptor Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:29:30 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 11 Here is their web site. http://www.speedibleed.com/ Dennis Perkins 84 300SD Message: 10 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 22:00:32 -0700 From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Speedy Bleeder adaptor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Does anyone have the address of Speedy Bleeder where I can get an adaptor for my new to me, Dodge Ram. The printing on the pressure bottle has been erased by brake fluid and I cant find the shipping info I once had, even Goggle has turned up nothing. Maybe I'm spelling the name wrong. Its the bleeder that gets its pressure from the tire. This has been a great tool but I fear the company may longer be around :'( Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa
Re: [MBZ] Shake down trip - Dodge/Cummins
Did you notice any KDP parties being scheduled on TDR? A KDP party, good idea. I would probably be much more willing to tear into somebody else's engine after 30 or 40 beers and a nice BBQed steak :-) Actually after reading about the procedure it sounds like getting the fan shroud is the toughest part. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shake down trip - Dodge/Cummins Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:30:38 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 2 Van Cleve wrote: I think I will find someone to do the wire feed, spot weld on the 5th gear nut and the KDP fix also as I'm not quite up to digging that far into the Cummins at this point. Did you notice any KDP parties being scheduled on TDR? That's a great way to spend a Saturday: fire up the BBQ, meet face to face with some online friends, and tear the front ends off a few trucks. After the first truck or two, it should go quite smoothly. Mitch.
Re [MBZ] Shake down trip
KirkSo your blue Dodge wont cut it, geez how many tires you trin' to haul for that AMG? Ya, I wish you would find a Cummins so you could figure out how to work on it so you could help me out when the time comes :-) Still trying to sell the old F250 if you know of anyone that wants a good 'farm' truck. You got the 4 speed in that white car yet? Steve Steve, If that pickup is so strong why not haul my race trailer with the `87 AMG Widebody and all my tires and gear to the racetrack? Wishing I had found a Cummins,KS - Original Message - From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Shake down trip Just got back from a 700 mile wild goose chase down the Or coast :-) I asked the guy that has the 5 SPEED ,pretty nice, 240D for sale...it has 5 speeds FORWARD, right...Oh ya..he says... Of course the part in the add about leather interior is always a red flag. Hay, I figured the guy did have a gear shift knob with #5 on it, like he said.. This is really not a rant, I may just have wanted an excuse to go on a little road trip with my new to me 94Dodge PU with the 5.9 Cummens. Oh ya, I towed the dolly, just in case It turned out to be for real. The new trucks has a 5 speed (has #5 on shift knob) , and just about as different from the MB as could be. (long stroke, direct injection, way different gearing) Its nice to have functioning cruise control with the controls on the steering wheel, lots of really fancy features about this truck, plus it got 24+ mpg, the sound of that Cummins is nice through the 4 inch exhaust system ...All in all a nice ride (for a truck)...plus, the turning radius is much smaller than the old F250. The first thing I did when I got home was to hop in my 240d and go for a spin to the PO, now thats a nice ride and I can visualize all the parts that are going round an round inside the engine cause I put em there. I think that I could become almost as familiar with that Cummins as I am with the 616, it will never be as easy to work on or nearly as simple. (which may be the limiting factor as to how familiar with it I'll become :-) ) The interior is nice but MB tex is far superior and rugged. I wont to be able to wipe a grease smug off the seat, which is gona be pretty heard to do in the truck. Anyway its a lot nicer then my old Ford and I like that Cummins 6 cylinder engine but it ain't no Mercedes. Of course compairing the two is like the apples and oranges, thing, Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Re shake down
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is really not a rant, I may just have wanted an excuse to go on a little road trip with my new to me 94Dodge PU with the 5.9 Cummens. That's the older body style, right? Nice trucks. The older Cummins have a sort of different sound from the latest ones, right? Mac Aylmer, Quebec '60 Mercedes 220s / '85 Mercedes 300sd '75 Volvo 164e / '88 Volvo 245 No, thats the first year of the new body style. A friend just bought a 93 and we have yet to get together to compare the two. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
[MBZ] Digest please
Please un subscribe me or switch me over the digest as I am taking off tomorrow to pick up a car down the coast and my wife will not enjoy dealing with all the mail plugging the PC. Thanks for keeping the list alive. Regards Steve Van Cleve Marrowstone Isl Wa 85 Euro 240D 5 spd 110K 79 240D 5spd fresh tranny transplan 82 Euro 300 TD non turbo, project wagon 94 Dodge, 2500, 5 spd, 5.9 Cummins, 95K
