Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you want to avoid potentially chilly temperatures, I would stay south of the 
Space Coast (Melbourne, Cocoa Beach) on the east coast, and Tampa on the west.

The Panhandle and Jacksonville have seasons. It can easily get into the 30s-40s 
in Pensacola and Panama City in the winter months.

Avoid South Florida unless you're looking for an "international" flare. Naples 
is nice but it's where all the rich conservatives winter, so it's pricey.

You could always go to the Bradenton area, which is immediately south of me 
(Tampa). It's where the Amish winter.

Dan (don't tell the deacon!)

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On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
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>> I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
>> degrees.
> 
> Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive.  It might cost less to go to 
> the real Napoli than the fake one in FL.
> 
> We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for family 
> in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some form of sand 
> beach, if only a pond.
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not even close, thank goodness.

He’s in South Florida living with his mom.  His daughter attends Florida 
Polytechnic in Lakeland, FL, which is about halfway between Tampa and Orlando.  
He was trying to find a way to live in Lakeland when his daughter first got 
accepted to Florida Poly.

Dan


> On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> Go spend the winter with FL Fats, isn't he somewhere near Tampa?
> -Curt
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> 
>> I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
>> degrees.
> 
> Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive.  It might cost less to 
> go to the real Napoli than the fake one in FL.
> 
> We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for 
> family in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some 
> form of sand beach, if only a pond.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Panhandle has seasons, as does places as far south as Jacksonville.  That 
would eliminate Pensacola and Panama City.  These areas can have temperatures 
as low as the 30s and 40s in the winter months, so you wouldn’t be gaining much 
unless you’re coming from the Great White North.

I would suggest staying south of the Space Coast on the east coast and Crystal 
River on the west coast.  If you go Tampa/Orlando/Melbourne you’ll be in good 
shape temperature-wise, I think.

Dan

> On Aug 4, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We are looking at places we might go to for a week next winter where it is 
> warm.  for those who are familiar with the east coast from SC to Central FL, 
> what are good places to go for people who don't hang out on goof courses?   
> One place we looked at is hilton head, but it does not seem to have much to 
> do that does not cost hundreds of dollars, or is more for summer weather.  
> Winter highs seem to be around 60 at HH,SC, so someplace like Destin  FL is 
> as good, closer and there is enough to do in the winter.  This makes Destin 
> or Panama City or pensacola more appealing.
> 
> Are we missing something about SC?  St Augustine may be in the running.  To 
> hit 70º, it appears we have to go as far south as tampa, or further. Finding 
> short sleeve shirt weather has some appeal.
> 
> SC has some appeal as none of us have ever been there.
> 
> Savannah has some appeal.
> 
> No interest in in dizzyzland.  Been to Cape Canaveral and Tampa.  Best thing 
> about tampa is the guava turnovers at the cuban restaurants. (Martha was in 
> IN at the time we were in Tampa)
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-07 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Aug 4, 2015 12:26 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
>  I vowed to return and do the  tour by myself, but have never returned.

The older Cub Scouts here (central NC) go annually, well worth the trip.  I
think we've aged out of the trip, at least until the baby is in Webelos.

To the original question, we tend to visit:
Savannah
Myrtle Beach
NC Outer Banks / eastern forests

Savannah is a nice historic city, my wife and I go there on long weekends
without children. (Charleston has a similar reputation, but I've never
stayed in the city personally.) We always stay in the historic section of
Savannah, where it is easy to walk to various places / monuments /
squares.  It is heavily dependent on summer tourism so I don't know what is
closed in winter, but the displays should be up if you like walking and
touring.  I have been satisfied with my walking guidebook of Savannah,
though we did take a ghost tour one year that was fun.  Savannah is a
working port, so you can find anything you want in the city proper
year-round.

Myrtle has a lot of stuff to "do" if you want to try different restaurants,
see shows, etc., and also sit on the beach.  We take the kids there most
Thanksgivings (and I usually wear a light jacket at most).  It is the Vegas
of SC, without the legal gambling but with an ocean.  Not my thing but the
wife and kids prefer it.  The ocean water is cool by November but
tolerable.  If you are a swimmer many hotels have indoor pools that use
filtered ocean water, so you can have the experience without the ick.

The Outer Banks are good if you like to explore nature.  Lots of fishing
and swimming (maybe not so much of the latter in winter).  There's a lot of
hiking - big forests on the mainland, too - if that appeals. You'd be
comfortable in a light jacket, but probably not without.  It is cheap to
visit the OB in winter, but you may have to bring in and prepare your own
food and drink as a lot of the businesses are closed.

Personally I would stay out of Florida, maybe bring along a functional but
dirty 140 to lure Penoff north.  Refugees from Florida have told me St. Aug
is decent, but as you go south you lose the Southern vibe and it gets nasty
fast.  That said if you want to swim in the ocean you may need to go there,
and if so I'm sorry...

In your shoes I'd probably go to Charleston for the company/ocean or
Savannah for the history, and I think you'll find it's pretty comfortable
in either.  Just wanted to present some alternatives that might make for
different kinds of trips.  Hope you have a great time!

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Charleston is a horrible place.  STAY AWAY!  Max and I are OK but 
everything else is terrible.  You DO NOT want to come here.  Weather 
terrible, food horrible, people awful.


--R



On 8/4/15 10:43 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Charleston is great, wide variety of things, all budget levels.  You could 
easily spend a week doing something different every day, but weather timing is 
everything.  Last few winters have been pretty chilly, December January 
February can all have freezing temperatures at night, December is the least 
likely I think for freezing weather.

Beach rentals and hotels get relatively cheap then, low season, if you can 
avoid the holidays.

USS Yorktown, Schooner Pride evening harbor sail (best in summer, not sure they 
run in the winter), Drayton Hall, historic downtown self-guided walk.  Those 
are among my favorites.  Boating, beaches, civil war history.  I'll bet there's 
some tour of The Citadel that would be cool.

Plus there's both Rich and me!

Beaufort SC is very close, and USMC Recruit Depot Paris Island has a fantastic 
museum, if you can get on base (military ID).  Beaufort is like a mini 
Charleston but with more water.



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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
DO NOT COME TO CHARLESTON!!!  It is already infested with too many 
tourists.  It is so crowded that no one comes her any more.


--R



On 8/4/15 9:22 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
We are looking at places we might go to for a week next winter where 
it is warm.  for those who are familiar with the east coast from SC to 
Central FL, what are good places to go for people who don't hang out 
on goof courses?   One place we looked at is hilton head, but it does 
not seem to have much to do that does not cost hundreds of dollars, or 
is more for summer weather. Winter highs seem to be around 60 at 
HH,SC, so someplace like Destin  FL is as good, closer and there is 
enough to do in the winter.  This makes Destin or Panama City or 
pensacola more appealing.


Are we missing something about SC?  St Augustine may be in the 
running.  To hit 70º, it appears we have to go as far south as tampa, 
or further. Finding short sleeve shirt weather has some appeal.


SC has some appeal as none of us have ever been there.

Savannah has some appeal.

No interest in in dizzyzland.  Been to Cape Canaveral and Tampa. Best 
thing about tampa is the guava turnovers at the cuban restaurants. 
(Martha was in IN at the time we were in Tampa)


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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
HA!  Best answer yet...

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Go spend the winter with FL Fats, isn't he somewhere near Tampa?
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Go spend the winter with FL Fats, isn't he somewhere near Tampa?
-Curt
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Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners
   
>I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
>degrees.

Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive.  It might cost less to 
go to the real Napoli than the fake one in FL.

We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for 
family in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some 
form of sand beach, if only a pond.



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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
USS Yorktown reminds me:  Maybe 30 years ago SWMBO and I were visiting 
Chuckietown for a weekend.  Went out to tour the Yorktown.  Walked ups 
steps, ramp, etc.  Stepped off ramp onto deck.  SWMBO immediately said, "Oh, 
I feel sink."  Now, don't forget, the ship is sitting there mired for years 
in the mud, but suddenly she didn't have her  "sea" legs.  'Back to car and 
drove home.  I vowed to return and do the  tour by myself, but have never 
returned.


BTW, I've never felt a desire to "visit" Paris Island, though I betcha they 
do have a fabulous museum.  ;<)

They have a fantastic history; it should be told in every way possible.

Semper FI

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners


Charleston is great, wide variety of things, all budget levels.  You could 
easily spend a week doing something different every day, but weather 
timing is everything.  Last few winters have been pretty chilly, December 
January February can all have freezing temperatures at night, December is 
the least likely I think for freezing weather.


Beach rentals and hotels get relatively cheap then, low season, if you can 
avoid the holidays.


USS Yorktown, Schooner Pride evening harbor sail (best in summer, not sure 
they run in the winter), Drayton Hall, historic downtown self-guided walk. 
Those are among my favorites.  Boating, beaches, civil war history.  I'll 
bet there's some tour of The Citadel that would be cool.


Plus there's both Rich and me!

Beaufort SC is very close, and USMC Recruit Depot Paris Island has a 
fantastic museum, if you can get on base (military ID).  Beaufort is like 
a mini Charleston but with more water.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
degrees.


Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive.  It might cost less to 
go to the real Napoli than the fake one in FL.


We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for 
family in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some 
form of sand beach, if only a pond.


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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
degrees.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Charleston is great, wide variety of things, all budget levels.  You could
> easily spend a week doing something different every day, but weather timing
> is everything.  Last few winters have been pretty chilly, December January
> February can all have freezing temperatures at night, December is the least
> likely I think for freezing weather.
>
> Beach rentals and hotels get relatively cheap then, low season, if you can
> avoid the holidays.
>
> USS Yorktown, Schooner Pride evening harbor sail (best in summer, not sure
> they run in the winter), Drayton Hall, historic downtown self-guided walk.
> Those are among my favorites.  Boating, beaches, civil war history.  I'll
> bet there's some tour of The Citadel that would be cool.
>
> Plus there's both Rich and me!
>
> Beaufort SC is very close, and USMC Recruit Depot Paris Island has a
> fantastic museum, if you can get on base (military ID).  Beaufort is like a
> mini Charleston but with more water.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Charleston is great, wide variety of things, all budget levels.  You could 
easily spend a week doing something different every day, but weather timing is 
everything.  Last few winters have been pretty chilly, December January 
February can all have freezing temperatures at night, December is the least 
likely I think for freezing weather.

Beach rentals and hotels get relatively cheap then, low season, if you can 
avoid the holidays.

USS Yorktown, Schooner Pride evening harbor sail (best in summer, not sure they 
run in the winter), Drayton Hall, historic downtown self-guided walk.  Those 
are among my favorites.  Boating, beaches, civil war history.  I'll bet there's 
some tour of The Citadel that would be cool.

Plus there's both Rich and me!  

Beaufort SC is very close, and USMC Recruit Depot Paris Island has a fantastic 
museum, if you can get on base (military ID).  Beaufort is like a mini 
Charleston but with more water.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

And the best thing I noticed about Miami is getting the Hell out of it. ;<)

Wilton


+3  But we did have a nice time with the guy who runs an independent 
MB shop in Pompano Beach.


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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
And the best thing I noticed about Miami is getting the Hell out of it. 
;<)


Wilton

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We are looking at places we might go to for a
week next winter where it is warm.  for those who
are familiar with the east coast from SC to
Central FL, what are good places to go for people
who don't hang out on goof courses?   One place
we looked at is hilton head, but it does not seem
to have much to do that does not cost hundreds of
dollars, or is more for summer weather.  Winter
highs seem to be around 60 at HH,SC, so someplace
like Destin  FL is as good, closer and there is
enough to do in the winter.  This makes Destin or
Panama City or pensacola more appealing.

Are we missing something about SC?  St Augustine
may be in the running.  To hit 70º, it appears we
have to go as far south as tampa, or further.
Finding short sleeve shirt weather has some
appeal.

SC has some appeal as none of us have ever been there.

Savannah has some appeal.

No interest in in dizzyzland.  Been to Cape
Canaveral and Tampa.  Best thing about tampa is
the guava turnovers at the cuban restaurants.
(Martha was in IN at the time we were in Tampa)

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[MBZ] ? for the easterners

2015-08-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
We are looking at places we might go to for a 
week next winter where it is warm.  for those who 
are familiar with the east coast from SC to 
Central FL, what are good places to go for people 
who don't hang out on goof courses?   One place 
we looked at is hilton head, but it does not seem 
to have much to do that does not cost hundreds of 
dollars, or is more for summer weather.  Winter 
highs seem to be around 60 at HH,SC, so someplace 
like Destin  FL is as good, closer and there is 
enough to do in the winter.  This makes Destin or 
Panama City or pensacola more appealing.


Are we missing something about SC?  St Augustine 
may be in the running.  To hit 70º, it appears we 
have to go as far south as tampa, or further. 
Finding short sleeve shirt weather has some 
appeal.


SC has some appeal as none of us have ever been there.

Savannah has some appeal.

No interest in in dizzyzland.  Been to Cape 
Canaveral and Tampa.  Best thing about tampa is 
the guava turnovers at the cuban restaurants. 
(Martha was in IN at the time we were in Tampa)


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