Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-22 Thread Potter, Tom E
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold uh. Yes It only takes a thimbleful of water. At 12:19 PM 1/19/2007, you wrote: Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? Leeee.. I own a gas station. I pay a buck

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread Loren Faeth
Water is not the only thing that can contaminate fuel, just the most likely to shut you down in sub freezing weather a few minutes after fueling. Most other contamination is rust, dirt, or other petro products mixed in by mistake or whatever. I'd still guess your problem could be rust/crud

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
Nah, I'm just feeling in a smart arse mood. I did guess though, by your theory about petro stations and distributors that you'd gotten bad petro before. That has to be frustrating. I have no doubt that that sort of doping of the tanks goes on. Back when I was obsessed with my car, (read muscle

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread kevin kraly
Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? I remember many years ago when my dad's '73 VW bug quit about 3 miles from the station where he filled it up. We had to go pick him up and have the car towed. The station drained the tank and got it running again, but after

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? I think so. Either by slugging the FI system with water, or by just plain clogging up the filter. Don't modern EFI systems run high volume/pressure and return quite a lot to the tank? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
I don't know, but I was under the impression that modern systems used pretty high pressure. I do know that the fuel injection system on this '84 Saab is an older type - I think they switched the next year to something more advanced. There is actually a neoprene-type hose running to each cylinder

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Jim Cathey wrote: Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? I think so. Either by slugging the FI system with water, or by just plain clogging up the filter. Don't modern EFI systems run high volume/pressure and return quite a lot to the

[MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
If it does seem to be bad gas, let me ask: How many of you have been through that, and what recourse do we have, and how did you we best go about pursuing it? I mean besides going in there and chewing the cashier out. I wish there was a way to find out if there have been other complaints

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-19 Thread Loren Faeth
uh. Yes It only takes a thimbleful of water. At 12:19 PM 1/19/2007, you wrote: Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? Leeee.. I own a gas station. I pay a buck 90 or so for gas. Gas has ethanol in it. Ethanol will suspend water. Water costs

Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold

2007-01-19 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thank you for your succinct information. I didn't know that water was the only thing that could contaminate gasoline. Since it is, my car's prognosis is much better. Brian On 1/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh. Yes It only takes a thimbleful of water. At 12:19 PM