Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator
Not as racy as the book, apparently On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: 50 shades of black? Did anyone see that movie? I heard that it is quite racey? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator
Andrew wrote: 50 shades of black? Did anyone see that movie? I heard that it is quite racey? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator
Took a quick look at my Omre machine yesterday. It has a two section tubular electrolytic that drives the pump. It's strapped to the side of the case, so I couldn't see the value of the cap. Mine seems to work fine from what I can tell, so I'm not in any hurry to mess with it. I may get bold and loosen the clamp on the cap so I can slide it out a bit and get the values off of it some day. I expect I can get a replacement from DigiKey or Mouser without too much effort. My pump looks brand new, and the inside of the machine appears to be the same, so I have no reason to believe the pump is cruddy inside. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't think the pumps run on a rheostat here's a rebuild tutorial http://www.instructables.com/id/Rebuilding-an-ULKA-Vibratory-Pump-Espresso-machin/ i've never had luck at repairing them here's another set of links http://ulkapumprepair.blogspot.com/ the ulna is the one in the machines i use, i think they can be bought relatively cheaply if you shop thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:34 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Espresso Date: February 12, 2015 7:45:20 PM EST To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Dan wrote: Interesting. I think mine is the same way. Maybe the caps(s) for the pump are old and should be replaced? I may take a look at mine this weekend and see. I can't imagine it would be difficult or expensive to replace. As for the O ring, I can't say. I haven't looked at it or tried to remove it. Mine seals well. So I'm figuring I'll leave well enough alone. If you find a suitable replacement let me know, as I would certainly like to have a spare. My previous response to this okiebenz message went to Dan, not the list, by mistake. I think there are some electronic design wizards here that can answer the current problem with the machine we each are using. This is a vibratory pump in a 40 year old espresso machine made in italy but wired for 110v. I think we can muster a picture of the control knob if needed, plus maybe a picture of wiring. There is a unique feature in this espresso machine - the speed of the pump can be varied using rheostat control knob. 12 o'clock is silent pump. Turn clockwise (cw) and the pump speeds up water thru thermoblock for shots. Turn counter clockwise (ccw) and the pump is used to produce steam for foamed milk. cw turn speeds pump goes from - to + as noted on the control. ccw control goes from - to + to denote amount of steam? However, steam production is not ideal so we are wondering if old caps or other electro-gizmo might be old after 40 years. Perhaps the rheostat needs a spray of DeOxit? What else in this type of electric control can go bad in years of very light service? Dan, perhaps we need to read the instructions? Below is my description to Dan yesterday about what I am seeing - Dan's notes above show he is in approximately the same quandry (choppy vibe pump noise) about producing steam. As noted, most espresso machines do not have a control that varies the pump speed. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator
50 shades of black? On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Each cup is very pleasurable. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of a vibrator that also makes coffee. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] espresso machine vibrator
I don't think the pumps run on a rheostat here's a rebuild tutorial http://www.instructables.com/id/Rebuilding-an-ULKA-Vibratory-Pump-Espresso-machin/ i've never had luck at repairing them here's another set of links http://ulkapumprepair.blogspot.com/ the ulna is the one in the machines i use, i think they can be bought relatively cheaply if you shop thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:34 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Espresso Date: February 12, 2015 7:45:20 PM EST To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Dan wrote: Interesting. I think mine is the same way. Maybe the caps(s) for the pump are old and should be replaced? I may take a look at mine this weekend and see. I can't imagine it would be difficult or expensive to replace. As for the O ring, I can't say. I haven't looked at it or tried to remove it. Mine seals well. So I'm figuring I'll leave well enough alone. If you find a suitable replacement let me know, as I would certainly like to have a spare. My previous response to this okiebenz message went to Dan, not the list, by mistake. I think there are some electronic design wizards here that can answer the current problem with the machine we each are using. This is a vibratory pump in a 40 year old espresso machine made in italy but wired for 110v. I think we can muster a picture of the control knob if needed, plus maybe a picture of wiring. There is a unique feature in this espresso machine - the speed of the pump can be varied using rheostat control knob. 12 o'clock is silent pump. Turn clockwise (cw) and the pump speeds up water thru thermoblock for shots. Turn counter clockwise (ccw) and the pump is used to produce steam for foamed milk. cw turn speeds pump goes from - to + as noted on the control. ccw control goes from - to + to denote amount of steam? However, steam production is not ideal so we are wondering if old caps or other electro-gizmo might be old after 40 years. Perhaps the rheostat needs a spray of DeOxit? What else in this type of electric control can go bad in years of very light service? Dan, perhaps we need to read the instructions? Below is my description to Dan yesterday about what I am seeing - Dan's notes above show he is in approximately the same quandry (choppy vibe pump noise) about producing steam. As noted, most espresso machines do not have a control that varies the pump speed. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
Folks I'm not much of a grinder man. When i used to sell a lot of coffee, in the 70's on into the late 90's we always served Cafe Bustello. Turn up your nose at it all you want, but it will make you a good cup of espresso or cappuccino. I generally drink cappuccino and am drinking one as a type. I went to a barista contest in Athens 3 or 4 years ago. Baristas from a bunch of local shops (and i) met and all made coffees. It ended up being more of a discussion than contest, but we all pulled shots and made cappuccinos and just ended up talking about the various coffees. After initial disdain …. several were serving locally roasted products …. and after trying the Bustello, it was mostly thought to be a good cup of coffee. If you want a grinder, only burr grinders are considered the way to go. I get cheap ones all the time, but never use them. Here's one that a friend gave me last week. He said it worked fine and he used it for several years. He replaced it with something similar. http://www.ebay.com/itm/STARBUCKS-BURR-GRINDER-BUON-CAFFE-MODEL-380-COFFEE-GRINDER-SWISS-/201221582733?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT You can sometimes find $20 or $30 new burr grinders on amazon or ebay if i wanted a grinder, i'd probably get something like this, but it's a bit of overkill for the home operation http://www.ebay.com/itm/La-Pavoni-Commercial-Espresso-Coffee-Grinder-RED-TESTED-GOOD-/121449696454?pt=BI_Hot_Beverage_Brewershash=item1c46f74cc6 italian, swiss, etc i don't know where the prices fall …. probably best to get one that you can locate new burrs for BEFORE you buy thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins On Nov 28, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Thanks to both of you for the insight and suggestions. I'll let you know how it works out. This sounds like fun for me - I get to watch Martha tweak a machine like mine. The listing said it was rotary pump 6-weeks ago so I asked for picture underneath - it is vibe pump like mine. The vintage rotary pump seems nice but it is huge and usually gunked up as seen at the HB forum link. Steaming milk... the pump seems a bit wonky, so I am interested to hear how your pump works for steam. Maybe Rick can tell us what machines he is selling? Perhaps you have a grinder for Dan to look at? I saw this ebay listing and wondered if it was Rick's stuff? - good looking! and in Alabama, although Rick is in GA? http://www.ebay.com/itm/231398647472 It is good that you know that a grinder is critical. fwiw this is the grinder I have, shipped from IT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321595594692 Alex gave me this link to grinders listed at ebay.it: http://www.ebay.it/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Macina%20caffe%20espresso%20coffee%20grinder%20QUICK%20MILL%20OMRE_itemId=260923266272#ht_499wt_901 So I go there every so often to see what is being sold. He also gave me this link: www.ricardo.ch/search/search.asp?txtSearch=kaffeemühle I probably paid more for shipping than the grinder, I forget. Scour ebay and craigslist - a decent grinder does not seem easy to find, but I am pleased with my vintage quickmill 43mm flat burr machine. Tell us about grinders, Mr. Java (Rick). Thanks. DanG Elgin aka mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
It's not espresso, but last night our Keurig broke. Its handle had been getting kind of sticky for a year or so. (I don't use it, I don't drink coffee.) Last night a piece of plastic broke off. Today I took it apart, and found that the only problem was that some scale had built up on the cam track on the bucket, and the plastic pin that slides in it snapped off. Oh dear. Fortunately the first machine we had bought had gone insane shortly after we got it. One phone call and they sent us a new one, I never even had to prove that I even _owned_ the machine in question. (Methinks mine was not the first such call they had received!) _Anyway_, I raided it for parts, and now it's working smoothly again. I've checked the new ones in stores, and none of them feel like they've half the mechanical build quality of the one we have. It has a metal handle, not a plated plastic handle. I'm happy to have put it back on the road, as it were. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
i don't care for the keurigs because they make coffee in the little plastic cups which may be toxic and DO fill up the landfills I was hoping my wife would use it rather than drive to Starbucks all the time. A vain hope, as it turns out. It gets used at parties, where people can get a customized blend of their choice. I hate waste, but this thing meets with my approval. We have here a community incinerator that is used to make power. These little cups never go into a landfill. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
On Nov 28, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Folks I'm not much of a grinder man. When i used to sell a lot of coffee, in the 70's on into the late 90's we always served Cafe Bustello. Turn up your nose at it all you want, but it will make you a good cup of espresso or cappuccino. I generally drink cappuccino and am drinking one as a type. I have two jars of it in the pantry right now. Popular stuff around here, with the Cuban population. I don't drink it, I use it for cooking/baking. Nothing like a tablespoon of espresso powder to kick up anything with chocolate in it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
There was quite the row earlier this year over Keurig coming out with a new design of the little plastic cups that would have an RFID chip or something in them that would prevent people from using non-Keurig cups in their machines. I suspect this was a response to the third party stuff on the market for their current machines as well as the refillable ones you can buy and fill with your own coffee. We had a vending machine at my former office that dispensed those cups. $1.00 for a cup of coffee!! Dan On Nov 28, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i don't care for the keurigs because they make coffee in the little plastic cups which may be toxic and DO fill up the landfills I was hoping my wife would use it rather than drive to Starbucks all the time. A vain hope, as it turns out. It gets used at parties, where people can get a customized blend of their choice. I hate waste, but this thing meets with my approval. We have here a community incinerator that is used to make power. These little cups never go into a landfill. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
There are reusable filters for use with keurig machines, compost the grounds for zero waste. Overall a French press makes much better coffee for less cost, fewer questionable ingredients (what's in the k-cup anyway?) and only slightly more time. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Espresso machine
There are reusable filters for use with keurig machines, compost the grounds for zero waste. We have two, they don't get much use. Overall a French press makes much better coffee for less cost, fewer questionable ingredients (what's in the k-cup anyway?) and only slightly more time. Agreed. We have one, it doesn't get used. The K machine does get used, people seem to like it. (I drink tea, not coffee, I basically don't use it. The hot water it will dispense is coffee- tainted, and I hate that.) I bought the first K machine. Since then both sets of parents have bought them, as has SWMBA's brother. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
