Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Now now Andrew. Don't be so sensitive. We have discussed a pile of different Sh*t. Manfred Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:30:43 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Now now Andrew. Don't be so sensitive. We have discussed a pile of different Sh*t. Manfred Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:30:43 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I'll need to check your front yard for the new crop; has the camera van been past recently? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Now now Andrew. Don't be so sensitive. We have discussed a pile of different Sh*t. Manfred Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:30:43 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Probably. Only about a dozen tomato plants and some emerging chard so far in the front. At least half my tomato seed packets refused to germinate this year. They were not all from the same company, either. We had a very cool early spring so that may have something to do with it. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'll need to check your front yard for the new crop; has the camera van been past recently? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Now now Andrew. Don't be so sensitive. We have discussed a pile of different Sh*t. Manfred Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:30:43 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
What method did you use to compost? I use a big pile and let it rest for a year which should allow most baddies to die off. I don't compost poop (dog poo gets spread under a maple tree) but I do compost meat, milk, yogurt and all sorts of other stuff thats bad. Above ground plants (i.e. not radishes, carrots, potatoes and the like) should at least in theory have less chance of passing on stuff from your compost. I suppose the greatest risk is from touching the soil. The field across the street from my parent's house has been spread with sewer sludge as long as anyone can remember. I used to fly kites in that field. We would of course wait for the sludge to get rained on and dry out good before heading over but it doesn't seem to have hurt me any. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:16:12 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=v8kdr945rg8yu7cru-4gk2464vaqhddhgk8h6og7u...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What method did you use to compost? I use a big pile and let it rest for a year which should allow most baddies to die off. I don't compost poop (dog poo gets spread under a maple tree) but I do compost meat, milk, yogurt and all sorts of other stuff thats bad. Above ground plants (i.e. not radishes, carrots, potatoes and the like) should at least in theory have less chance of passing on stuff from your compost. I suppose the greatest risk is from touching the soil. The field across the street from my parent's house has been spread with sewer sludge as long as anyone can remember. I used to fly kites in that field. We would of course wait for the sludge to get rained on and dry out good before heading over but it doesn't seem to have hurt me any. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:16:12 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=v8kdr945rg8yu7cru-4gk2464vaqhddhgk8h6og7u...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
That last part isn't quite true if you're using cat poo in your compost. The cat's digestion isn't 100% complete and cat food should be almost 100% meat with little in the way of filler. Dog food by comparison is mostly filler (well, cheap dog food anyway, not the stuff we buy) with a little meat. Dog food can kill cats as they can't digest the filler. Theres all kinds of animal proteins in your compost. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:12:29 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=smrhngzafhqhwyl+zs883atnblepad00x0856mqzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Like I say, I am living proof there is no harm done, unless you regard political views as a medical condition obtained from leftist cats. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: That last part isn't quite true if you're using cat poo in your compost. The cat's digestion isn't 100% complete and cat food should be almost 100% meat with little in the way of filler. Dog food by comparison is mostly filler (well, cheap dog food anyway, not the stuff we buy) with a little meat. Dog food can kill cats as they can't digest the filler. Theres all kinds of animal proteins in your compost. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:12:29 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=smrhngzafhqhwyl+zs883atnblepad00x0856mqzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
But your political views are usually full of the merde! BTW yesterday I went to a SC Supreme Court hearing with a friend who is a rabid leftie lib unionist teacher from NY, and we had a great time. I asked her some questions about her views on current matters, and as predicted her answers were lacking in depth or relevant facts, and made little sense. She was not interested in exploring things in any depth beyond her cursory responses of the party line, so that was disappointing but not unexpected. I was nice to her though as I think she might have some potential to wise up, sometime. --R On 6/6/13 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Like I say, I am living proof there is no harm done, unless you regard political views as a medical condition obtained from leftist cats. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: That last part isn't quite true if you're using cat poo in your compost. The cat's digestion isn't 100% complete and cat food should be almost 100% meat with little in the way of filler. Dog food by comparison is mostly filler (well, cheap dog food anyway, not the stuff we buy) with a little meat. Dog food can kill cats as they can't digest the filler. Theres all kinds of animal proteins in your compost. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:12:29 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=smrhngzafhqhwyl+zs883atnblepad00x0856mqzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
How odd - she said the wame thing about you! On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: But your political views are usually full of the merde! BTW yesterday I went to a SC Supreme Court hearing with a friend who is a rabid leftie lib unionist teacher from NY, and we had a great time. I asked her some questions about her views on current matters, and as predicted her answers were lacking in depth or relevant facts, and made little sense. She was not interested in exploring things in any depth beyond her cursory responses of the party line, so that was disappointing but not unexpected. I was nice to her though as I think she might have some potential to wise up, sometime. --R On 6/6/13 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Like I say, I am living proof there is no harm done, unless you regard political views as a medical condition obtained from leftist cats. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: That last part isn't quite true if you're using cat poo in your compost. The cat's digestion isn't 100% complete and cat food should be almost 100% meat with little in the way of filler. Dog food by comparison is mostly filler (well, cheap dog food anyway, not the stuff we buy) with a little meat. Dog food can kill cats as they can't digest the filler. Theres all kinds of animal proteins in your compost. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:12:29 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=sMRhngZAFhqHwyL+**ZS883ATnBLEPad00X0856MqzuKYw@** mail.gmail.comsmrhngzafhqhwyl%2bzs883atnblepad00x0856mqzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
same thing On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: How odd - she said the wame thing about you! On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: But your political views are usually full of the merde! BTW yesterday I went to a SC Supreme Court hearing with a friend who is a rabid leftie lib unionist teacher from NY, and we had a great time. I asked her some questions about her views on current matters, and as predicted her answers were lacking in depth or relevant facts, and made little sense. She was not interested in exploring things in any depth beyond her cursory responses of the party line, so that was disappointing but not unexpected. I was nice to her though as I think she might have some potential to wise up, sometime. --R On 6/6/13 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Like I say, I am living proof there is no harm done, unless you regard political views as a medical condition obtained from leftist cats. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: That last part isn't quite true if you're using cat poo in your compost. The cat's digestion isn't 100% complete and cat food should be almost 100% meat with little in the way of filler. Dog food by comparison is mostly filler (well, cheap dog food anyway, not the stuff we buy) with a little meat. Dog food can kill cats as they can't digest the filler. Theres all kinds of animal proteins in your compost. -Curt Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:12:29 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Message-ID: CAC35L=sMRhngZAFhqHwyL+**ZS883ATnBLEPad00X0856MqzuKYw@** mail.gmail.comsmrhngzafhqhwyl%2bzs883atnblepad00x0856mqzu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use an Earth Bin. The stuff is all less than 1 year old but by the time I ingest any of the veggies grown on the plot it will have been1 year or more from date of inception. I never use animal protein of any sort. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Possible Link Of Milorganite To Lou Gehrig's Disease Stirs Controversy JAMES A. CARLSON , Associated Press MILWAUKEE (AP) _ Sixty years ago, Milwaukee transformed a sewage disposal problem into a bonanza by pioneering a process that uses human and industrial wastes to make a nitrogen-rich fertilizer for commercial sale. Now there are fears that heavy metal in the fertilizer, which earns the Metropolitan Sewerage District $6 million a year, may be linked to the fatal illness known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Researchers caution, however, that there is as yet no evidence of a definite connection, that reports of a link are so far anecdotal, and that clusters of Gehrig's disease cases are not unusual. The fertilizer, called Milorganite, has been produced since 1926 and was applied to fields used by professional football's San Francisco 49ers in the 1960s. Three members of the 1964 team contracted the neuromuscular disease, and two of them, Gary Lewis and Matt Hazeltine, have died. The third, Western Carolina University football coach Bob Waters, 48, is battling the disease, formally called amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS. The Milwaukee Sentinel reported recently that other ALS patients have told of some contact with Milorganite, and that of 155 sewer district employees who died since 1961, two died of ALS. The normal incidence of ALS is two cases per 100,000 people. Tom Kaczkowski, president of the union local representing the workers, said people who work with Milorganite should be concerned. ''It could be a very serious thing, but there's no concrete information yet,'' said Kaczkowski, who has worked occasionally with the fertilizer. Medical researchers and producers of Milorganite agree there is no evidence of a definite connection with the disease. Part of the problem is the elusive nature of ALS, which causes a gradual breakdown of nerve cells that control muscles of the limbs and throat. Although ALS was recognized nearly a century ago, its causes are unknown. Among its well-known victims were Lou Gehrig, the New York Yankees' first baseman who was stricken and died in 1941, and former Sen. Jacob Javits of New York, who died in March 1986. Benjamin Brooks, director of the ALS Clinical Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said reports of a possible link with Milorganite so far amount only to anecdotal evidence but helped spur plans for a study involving hundreds of patients in Wisconsin. However, Brooks and other experts cautioned that clusters of ALS cases are not unusual. ''I'm a little uncomfortable about the way this has taken on headline proportions,'' said Dr. Neil J. Lewis, assistant director of research with the Muscular Dystrophy Association in New York City. Investigations into past clusters found no causal factor, even in the case of three ALS victims who formerly taught school in the same Ohio classroom, Lewis said. The exception, Lewis said, is the high incidence of the disease on Guam, where an environmental factor in food and water is suspected. ''Our feeling is that it's always important to pursue background information'' of ALS patients, Lewis said, but he noted that no conclusive links have been made between ALS and heavy metals, such as those in Milorganite. Brooks said heavy metals such as the cadmium in Milorganite are among many suspected links with ALS. Other possibilities include regular exposure to electrical shocks, certain viruses or abnormal immune system functions and regular, strenuous athletic activity. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency warned about high cadmium levels in Milorganite a decade ago, prompting Milwaukee's sewer district to begin a program requiring industrial pollution sources to reduce discharges of the material into the sewage system. The program reduced the cadmium level to what the district considers a safe amount. But the district has directed a ''group of national medical experts'' to review evidence and decide whether a full-scale study should be done. ''More light needs to be shed on the question,'' said Patrick Marchese, the district's executive director. In 1926, the district opened what it said was the first large-scale, activated sewage sludge plant in the world. The sludge is preconditioned in an acid bath, vacuum-filtered to remove moisture and dried. Thomas J. Hagerty, district spokesman, said about 60,000 dry tons of Milorganite is produced a year, with slightly less than half marketed in 40- pound bags and the rest sold in bulk. He said the recent publicity was not expected to affect plans to expand Milorganite production by about 25 percent. http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1987/Possible-Link-Of-Milorganite-To-Lou-Gehrig-s-Disease-Stirs-Controversy/id-6302ee76f2286bbcac489b60cef66709 From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com What method did you use to compost? I use a big pile and let it rest for a year which should allow most baddies to die off. I don't
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Toxoplasma gondi: The parasite can cause encephalitis (inflammation of the brain) and neurologic diseases, and can affect the heart, liver, inner ears, and eyes (chorioretinitis). Recent research has also linked toxoplasmosis with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, and schizophrenia. Numerous studies found a positive correlation between latent toxoplasmosis and suicidal behavior in humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis Gerry From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com For the record, I tilled in a binful of my cat-centric compost and planted some cucumbers, with peppers and hopefully eggplant to follow. If all goes to plan, I will be a guinea pig for your theories about cat to human transfer of toxoplasmosis, feline lukemia, or hairballs. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM, MG trainpain2...@aol.com wrote: Now now Andrew. Don't be so sensitive. We have discussed a pile of different Sh*t. Manfred Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:30:43 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5889 - Release Date: 06/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not medical, mental condition ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Like I say, I am living proof there is no harm done, unless you regard political views as a medical condition obtained from leftist cats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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despite my leg pulling that poop should make some wonderful fertilizer. We used goat turds for quite a while with great success. I remember the steam coming off the big cow and horse manure piles on the farm in Germany years ago. All that as well as the holding tank contents was tilled into the fields every fall. Manfred Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:19:36 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net Food. The alpacas are all organic and the heat of my wee composter tends to inhibit bad things from taking place. I have yet to get it to actually ignite, but on occasion there is some really nice steam coming off the pile in the morning. Turn and wet, then let it be. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy On 05/06/2013 3:11 PM, MG wrote: despite my leg pulling that poop should make some wonderful fertilizer. We used goat turds for quite a while with great success. I remember the steam coming off the big cow and horse manure piles on the farm in Germany years ago. All that as well as the holding tank contents was tilled into the fields every fall. Manfred Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:19:36 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net Food. The alpacas are all organic and the heat of my wee composter tends to inhibit bad things from taking place. I have yet to get it to actually ignite, but on occasion there is some really nice steam coming off the pile in the morning. Turn and wet, then let it be. clay ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or to be faithful to Canadian bilingualism, a la merde des chats. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Jeez, this list has just gone to sh*t the last few days. Randy On 05/06/2013 3:11 PM, MG wrote: despite my leg pulling that poop should make some wonderful fertilizer. We used goat turds for quite a while with great success. I remember the steam coming off the big cow and horse manure piles on the farm in Germany years ago. All that as well as the holding tank contents was tilled into the fields every fall. Manfred Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:19:36 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net Food. The alpacas are all organic and the heat of my wee composter tends to inhibit bad things from taking place. I have yet to get it to actually ignite, but on occasion there is some really nice steam coming off the pile in the morning. Turn and wet, then let it be. clay __**_ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Research no till garden beds. Saves a ton of work. Mike On Jun 4, 2013 1:12 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I use wood chips for mulch. Keeps all the weeds down pretty well. Sucks nutrients out of the soil so there is nothing left for plants to use. Wonderful for bulb garden areas. I had a grass invasion issue in one bed. I had dug up the dang thing three times in four years. Each year going just that much deeper. Last excavation, I removed about a yard of river rock/glacial till along with four 32 gallon yard waste bins of grass roots. I had to sift about three yards of soil which dropped the level a good six inches. Luckily, there was an arborist taking out two large pines down the street. I asked if they could dump some left overs shreds. Could not use what they were making, but they had a truck come by and leave three yards of chips. I covered my grass patch and have not seen anything grow there for two and a half years. This spring some weeds made an appearance, because the chips had decomposed enough that the soil was accessible. I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Don't put wood chips in your compost, they suck up too much of something (nitrogen?) and lower the value of the compost. I generate a lot of sawdust and wood shavings, thought those would be good around trees for mulch, a master gardener who was also an accomplished woodworker yelled NOOO --R On 6/1/13 6:43 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: But fails to please SWMBO. There's something to be said for a girl who understands the value of good compost and mulch. The small ones are good enough if you have patience and only need it once in a while for branches. Pretty much any size will shred leaves. I have been hard on mine and, as to be expected, my 17 year old son is even harder on it. We are chipping up huge trees that should have been done with an industrial machine. The maple was about 50 feet and the willow 60 or so. Mike On Jun 1, 2013 4:33 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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Been doing that for years. I figured if notill worked for farms, it should work for a garden. I used a tiller the first year to break up the sod. Notill ever since. getting close to 20 years now. Research no till garden beds. Saves a ton of work. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am slowly getting our old farm back up and running. All no till organic beds means food that I can know what it's made of, almost no weeding, less water, etc. Mike On Jun 4, 2013 9:47 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Been doing that for years. I figured if notill worked for farms, it should work for a garden. I used a tiller the first year to break up the sod. Notill ever since. getting close to 20 years now. Research no till garden beds. Saves a ton of work. Mike __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Spring garden as in food? I wonder if that stuff is as bad as the infamous 'Merd de Gat' (sp?). If so be careful you don't get a woolly tongue. Manfred Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:11:56 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You have to use vegetarian poop to compost, like horse or cow as it breaks down better and does not make nasties. Some people do use dog/cat/people (chinee) but that is not recommended in general. --R On 6/4/13 12:46 PM, MG wrote: Spring garden as in food? I wonder if that stuff is as bad as the infamous 'Merd de Gat' (sp?). If so be careful you don't get a woolly tongue. Manfred Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:11:56 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have yet to read anything in the literature that suggests any problems with composting kitty poop from 100 percent indoor cats using corn based litter. It's just the idea of it that bothers some people, On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You have to use vegetarian poop to compost, like horse or cow as it breaks down better and does not make nasties. Some people do use dog/cat/people (chinee) but that is not recommended in general. --R On 6/4/13 12:46 PM, MG wrote: Spring garden as in food? I wonder if that stuff is as bad as the infamous 'Merd de Gat' (sp?). If so be careful you don't get a woolly tongue. Manfred Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:11:56 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 4, 2013 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have yet to read anything in the literature that suggests any problems with composting kitty poop from 100 percent indoor cats using corn based litter. Roundworm eggs and toxoplasmosis cysts add that special something to your salsa! Seriously, it's not just the idea of it. There are demonstrable health hazards from carnivore feces. The above listed organisms can survive in a dormant state for years outside a host. Are your cats vegetarian? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Food. The alpacas are all organic and the heat of my wee composter tends to inhibit bad things from taking place. I have yet to get it to actually ignite, but on occasion there is some really nice steam coming off the pile in the morning. Turn and wet, then let it be. clay On Jun 4, 2013, at 9:46 AM, MG wrote: Spring garden as in food? I wonder if that stuff is as bad as the infamous 'Merd de Gat' (sp?). If so be careful you don't get a woolly tongue. Manfred Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:11:56 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Research no till garden beds. Saves a ton of work http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0878575723?ie=UTF8force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_links Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I use wood chips for mulch. Keeps all the weeds down pretty well. Sucks nutrients out of the soil so there is nothing left for plants to use. Wonderful for bulb garden areas. I had a grass invasion issue in one bed. I had dug up the dang thing three times in four years. Each year going just that much deeper. Last excavation, I removed about a yard of river rock/glacial till along with four 32 gallon yard waste bins of grass roots. I had to sift about three yards of soil which dropped the level a good six inches. Luckily, there was an arborist taking out two large pines down the street. I asked if they could dump some left overs shreds. Could not use what they were making, but they had a truck come by and leave three yards of chips. I covered my grass patch and have not seen anything grow there for two and a half years. This spring some weeds made an appearance, because the chips had decomposed enough that the soil was accessible. I used to use the bagged composted manure. That is just saw dust and some poop. It is better as a soil amendment in the Fall. I think from here on out, I call up the lady with the alpacas and bag some of their poop, mix it with soil and let it cure. Then use that in my spring gardens. clay On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Don't put wood chips in your compost, they suck up too much of something (nitrogen?) and lower the value of the compost. I generate a lot of sawdust and wood shavings, thought those would be good around trees for mulch, a master gardener who was also an accomplished woodworker yelled NOOO --R On 6/1/13 6:43 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: But fails to please SWMBO. There's something to be said for a girl who understands the value of good compost and mulch. The small ones are good enough if you have patience and only need it once in a while for branches. Pretty much any size will shred leaves. I have been hard on mine and, as to be expected, my 17 year old son is even harder on it. We are chipping up huge trees that should have been done with an industrial machine. The maple was about 50 feet and the willow 60 or so. Mike On Jun 1, 2013 4:33 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
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For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
But fails to please SWMBO. There's something to be said for a girl who understands the value of good compost and mulch. The small ones are good enough if you have patience and only need it once in a while for branches. Pretty much any size will shred leaves. I have been hard on mine and, as to be expected, my 17 year old son is even harder on it. We are chipping up huge trees that should have been done with an industrial machine. The maple was about 50 feet and the willow 60 or so. Mike On Jun 1, 2013 4:33 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't put wood chips in your compost, they suck up too much of something (nitrogen?) and lower the value of the compost. I generate a lot of sawdust and wood shavings, thought those would be good around trees for mulch, a master gardener who was also an accomplished woodworker yelled NOOO --R On 6/1/13 6:43 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: But fails to please SWMBO. There's something to be said for a girl who understands the value of good compost and mulch. The small ones are good enough if you have patience and only need it once in a while for branches. Pretty much any size will shred leaves. I have been hard on mine and, as to be expected, my 17 year old son is even harder on it. We are chipping up huge trees that should have been done with an industrial machine. The maple was about 50 feet and the willow 60 or so. Mike On Jun 1, 2013 4:33 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Let 'em compost first. Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Don't put wood chips in your compost, they suck up too much of something (nitrogen?) and lower the value of the compost. I generate a lot of sawdust and wood shavings, thought those would be good around trees for mulch, a master gardener who was also an accomplished woodworker yelled NOOO --R On 6/1/13 6:43 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: But fails to please SWMBO. There's something to be said for a girl who understands the value of good compost and mulch. The small ones are good enough if you have patience and only need it once in a while for branches. Pretty much any size will shred leaves. I have been hard on mine and, as to be expected, my 17 year old son is even harder on it. We are chipping up huge trees that should have been done with an industrial machine. The maple was about 50 feet and the willow 60 or so. Mike On Jun 1, 2013 4:33 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: For those of us without a blacksmith or welding shop, the burn pile works great. On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Look on craigslist in your area. They are plentiful in good running order for $300 or less here. A note: Been pretty hard on the little Merry Mac lately chipping green maple. Pulled the blade out of it to touch up the edge and found a crack in a thinner part of the big chipper wheel. Not a hard fix, just split it in half and weld it up when I get a minute. That explains the fighting with it to chip right lately..the wheel was flexing where the bade mounts. So, in short, if you get a small machine and work it hard be prepared for maintenence on a daily basis. Oh, had to tighten up bolts that hold on carb and now muffler bolts are loose. Will get to them when fixing the wheel. Mike On May 27, 2013 11:13 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: What about second hand? Hendrik who fixed the shredder the other day On 27/05/13 07:49, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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little units arent going to compare to commercial. best for twigs. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine Sometimes it's easier to turn them into ashes, which make decent fertilizer. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
Agreed. Whatever size chipper you buy it will be too small most of the time. If you only chip once or twice a year, you may be better off to rent one, if you have a good rental place anywhere near. WHen I tried to rehab the jungle, I rented one and chipped for a day. For maintenance afterwards, the snears chipper is barely adequate and very noisy. Homeowner chippers are good for reducing leaves, but that is VERY dusty. I used a burn barrel until the city said we could not burn. Then I bought the chipper. Now many houses have those steel outdoor fireplaces. I acquired one form a neighbor who moved out, and use it to burn in place of chip. Much quieter, and the city does not B itch. The chipper engine will far outlive the chipper part of a homeowner chipper. I bet I don't have much more than 50 hours on mine, but it has been patched together with microwave case steel and washers. Engine is pretty much like new. I cut up the limbs with the chainsaw, then chip the brush under 1 dia. (or burn) little units arent going to compare to commercial. best for twigs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I live on a moderately-wooded (mostly oaks, several pines, few magnolias, others) acre and a half - LOTSA leaves. About a quarter of the lot is left natural - no grass. I haven't raked leaves in maybe 15+ years and have never burned 'em. I have a mulching deck and blades on my JD mower. I autumn, yard can be covered in leaves; I drive the mower through/over them coupla times during about three sessions (or as necessary) per season, and they disappear into the grass. 'Tried to rake, blow and push them into the natural areas or have 'em hauled away for several years, but driving the mower through the ABUNDANT leaves is truly painless for me. Most of the leaves that have fallen on my lot for the last 15+ years are still there in the natural areas or rotting, unseen, where they fell to supply nutrients to the grass and shrubs. 'Had a chipper for several years; finally gave it away. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Agreed. Whatever size chipper you buy it will be too small most of the time. If you only chip once or twice a year, you may be better off to rent one, if you have a good rental place anywhere near. WHen I tried to rehab the jungle, I rented one and chipped for a day. For maintenance afterwards, the snears chipper is barely adequate and very noisy. Homeowner chippers are good for reducing leaves, but that is VERY dusty. I used a burn barrel until the city said we could not burn. Then I bought the chipper. Now many houses have those steel outdoor fireplaces. I acquired one form a neighbor who moved out, and use it to burn in place of chip. Much quieter, and the city does not B itch. The chipper engine will far outlive the chipper part of a homeowner chipper. I bet I don't have much more than 50 hours on mine, but it has been patched together with microwave case steel and washers. Engine is pretty much like new. I cut up the limbs with the chainsaw, then chip the brush under 1 dia. (or burn) little units arent going to compare to commercial. best for twigs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rental yard for not frequent use then and a big size one? On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I rent a big chipper once a year to take care of the windfalls and deadwood and whatever my wife collects. I had a big bin composting leaves but she had all that hauled away. -R On 5/26/13 6:19 PM, OK Don wrote: Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We just burn that stuff whenever the pile gets big enough. Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I rent a big chipper once a year to take care of the windfalls and deadwood and whatever my wife collects. I had a big bin composting leaves but she had all that hauled away. -R -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I'm with Wilton on the chipper-shredder. I had one (maybe 8 HP) but got rid of it. It was somewhat useful when I lived in an urban environment with trees. In the country I just throw branches, etc. into the woods. I do have a huge leaf problem. Now I use a lawn vac that tows behind the lawn tractor (tractor-style riding mower). If I don't let the leaves get more than a few inches deep it sucks them right up, mulches them, and deposits them in a dump trailer. I have a huge mulch pile now for flower beds, trees, etc. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders Thanks all --- SWMBO wants leaves chopped up for the compost heap, and branches chipped for walks/mulching. It doesn't sound like the cheap units are up to the tasks, and the good ones will be more than she wants to spend -- -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I just took down a HUGE willow and a very big sugar maple. Bought a used MacKissic Merry Mac 6hp chipper shredder for $200. Sharpened chipper blade. Has been doing a good(and easy) job of turning all of the brush under 1 into mulch. The rest is firewood from the maple. Seems to be a well made machine for a little one. Made in USA! Way better made than s Sears or MTD. Mike On May 21, 2013 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine -- OK Don, with lots of leaves and branches to turn into mulch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
OK Don wrote: We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine Sometimes it's easier to turn them into ashes, which make decent fertilizer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
On 21/05/2013 9:13 PM, OK Don wrote: We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine I have an Earthquake brand unit acquired from Menard's for roughly $500 if I recall. The only issue I have had so far is the plastic funnel type thing that one pushed the branches into has cracked. I see that the newer ones have a metal unit in place of the plastic one I have. Mine would be convertible and will be if it gets bad enough. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine -- OK Don, with lots of leaves and branches to turn into mulch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Chipper/Shreaders
I have a snears/mtd. parts are available through snears, but not cheap. Mine has a hopper that lays down so you can sweep leaves into it. THat is good if you really plan to chop up leaves. I have had to repair the hopper because of the vibration. I bought a wire/flux core welder for that. I also bought new knives for the chipper part. Had to clean the carb a few times. Had it 10-12 years. We grind up a lot of sticks/limbs/brush that is dry, and that is hard on it. If you grind leaves and green brush, it will stand up better. Bought mine at snears/ as a floor model/parts missing for about $500. makes lots of mulch for garden and bushes. Most of the ones i see for sale are too small to be much use. We are in the market for a used Chipper'Shreader (or new if used are not feasable). The few that I've found with reasonable prices on Craigslist do not get glowing reports when I search for parts availability. Does anyone have experience with these? What are your opinions? The two that look best (with the exception of the complaints on variuos forums) are: Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder with 8hp Briggs Stratton engine and Renegade 250.8 chipper shredder. The unit has the 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
