Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
You wrote: " the way things really are when it comes to guns." and laws... LarryT On 6/15/2015 2:21 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: I was sitting in the Farmers Market Restaurant having lunch one day during the 1950s not long after New York had banned guns. It was the slow summer season for northbound loads of citrus and other crops, and a trucker sitting behind me was complaining. "I need enough money for fuel to get back to New York", he said. The trucker he was talking to said something like: "You can make $50 taking a footlocker full of guns to New York." "I can give you a number to call if you're interested." I got up and left about then but never forgot that little lesson in the way things really are when it comes to guns. Gerry LarryT wrote: It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one. Then someone asks them "What makes you think they don't have one already? It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal. Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when they want one! They're called criminals for a reason. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry! LarryT On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6030 / Virus Database: 4360/10015 - Release Date: 06/14/15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
I was sitting in the Farmers Market Restaurant having lunch one day during the 1950s not long after New York had banned guns. It was the slow summer season for northbound loads of citrus and other crops, and a trucker sitting behind me was complaining. "I need enough money for fuel to get back to New York", he said. The trucker he was talking to said something like: "You can make $50 taking a footlocker full of guns to New York." "I can give you a number to call if you're interested." I got up and left about then but never forgot that little lesson in the way things really are when it comes to guns. Gerry LarryT wrote: > > It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone > > to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one. > > Then someone asks them "What makes you think they don't have one already? > > It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal. Even > > with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when > > they want one! They're called criminals for a reason. The only thing that > > stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. All those > > restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry! > > > > LarryT > > > >> On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to > >>> own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. > >>> > >>> Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining > >>> orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and > >>> be prepared. > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ > >>> > >>> - > >>> Max > >>> Charleston SC > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6030 / Virus Database: 4360/10015 - Release Date: 06/14/15 > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
People in general are stupid, especially liberals Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:33 PM, LarryT via Mercedes > wrote: > > It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to > be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one. Then > someone asks them "What makes you think they don't have one already? It > seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal. Even with over > 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when they want > one! They're called criminals for a reason. The only thing that stops a bad > guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. All those restrictive orders just > seem to make the ex's angry! > > LarryT > >> On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to >>> own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. >>> >>> Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining >>> orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and >>> be prepared. >>> >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ >>> >>> - >>> Max >>> Charleston SC >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one. Then someone asks them "What makes you think they don't have one already? It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal. Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when they want one! They're called criminals for a reason. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry! LarryT On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
It should be obvious that anyone with the cash who is willing to break the law can obtain a gun, despite laws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
The Ex used a knife. But it could have been a stick, a boot, or a fist with the same result. God made men and women. Colt made them equal. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:15 PM > > How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Law-abiding v. criminal. If the woman had chosen to be a criminal in exercising her Constitutional rights (figure that one out), the ex could have been the one purged from society instead of the woman. The criminal likely either stole it, or bought if from someone who stole it or sold it to him illegally. So criminals... --R On 6/10/15 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Andrew, if you had read the article, you would have learned that he used a knife to kill her. News flash: knives and "blunt force" weapons (aka clubs) are used to kill more people than hand guns. - Max Charleston SC Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? >> > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
If you read the article.. it says she was STABBED TO DEATH... so he killed her with a knife... Later, he shot himself.. source of that gun is unreported.. I wager it was stolen, and since he was a FELON.. by law, can NEVER legally own a gun.. Last report I heard.. bringing a knife to a gun fight pretty much means you LOSE... in this case.. the poor dead woman lacked the means to defend herself.. although she make every legal step to try to.. Sad... It is my opinion the state is responsible for a wrongful death by denying the woman the right to arm herself while failing to provide protection for her.. I'm sure the knife the man had cut right through the order of protection she held in front of her... On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? >> > > Who said it was legal? > News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens > prevents criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws. > Disarming non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages > crime. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? Who said it was legal? News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens prevents criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws. Disarming non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages crime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to > own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. > > Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining > orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and > be prepared. > > > http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ > > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
