I missed the beginning of this. The head number is easy enough its the
3rd grouping of numbers on the side. #14 is bad, #22 is good. I love the
603, so much more power than my 602. Mine needs new seats as well, I
hear its pretty easy to pull the covers off and swap them. I would
really like
conventional oil would clear out lifter tick too if you took the car
on a long enough drive...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 07:33:31 -0400
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New
available.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:50:35 -0500
From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the driveway- M1 oil
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Oh one other note, 61x engines don't get the full advantage of synthetic oil
because they'll tend to hit 2% soot load (MB's measure for when the oil needs
changing) before you can really extend the change interval all that much.
Such is not true with 60x engines. Last I tested the oil in my '85
Regardless of claims that the 0W-40 and the 15W-40 are the same when hot, my
experience is that the engine was much noisier when hot when I tried the 0W-40
in my OM-617, it just sounded like the oil was thinner. Idle pressure was a
bit lower too, compared to 15W-40.
I like the 5W-40 also, but
I meant 5W-40 where I wrote 15W-40 in the first paragraph below.
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:31 -0400, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Regardless of claims that the 0W-40 and the 15W-40 are the same when
hot, my experience is that the engine was much noisier when hot when I
tried the
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't like the 0w40 as its so thin cold it'll tend to leak even in a
relatively tight engine.
My experience too in a few different engines, both MB diesels and
lesser gassers.
If you don't want a new addition ON your
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't like the 0w40 as its so thin cold it'll tend to leak even in a
relatively tight engine.
My experience too in a few different engines, both MB diesels and
23, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the driveway- M1 oil
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
I don't like the 0w40 as its so thin cold it'll tend to leak even in a
relatively tight engine
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
My '87 300D is 24 years old and does not mark its territory.
Mine neither. The only leak on the engine is, I believe, from the
seal around the bottom plate on the injection pump. Since that seal
isn't replaceable in situ, and
Leaking lines can cause clacking injectors, but it's more likely that
the lifters are flat (overhead cam with bucket style hydraulic
tappets). An oil change with new o-rings on the center bolt will
cure that. If the injection lines are bad, get some made up at an
injection service, they
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
I don't recall a sub-sump or pan on the 606 engine. There is only a
large, baffled oil pan. Removing
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
Ned,
So you're saying that due to the baffles inside the oil pan, I may not
have much luck trying
, 53310
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Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:01:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
Here's an evil thought: Cut one or two circular holes in bottom/sides
of oil pan
Max:
Sorry, but I did the ball bearing-ectomy 2-1/2 years ago, many of the
details are becoming vague.
All of these schemes to avoid pulling the engine are kind of like watching a
teenager do more work to avoid a job than it would take to just do the job.
To pull the engine/trans, I bought an
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
Max:
Sorry, but I did the ball bearing-ectomy 2-1/2 years ago, many of the
details are becoming vague.
All of these schemes to avoid pulling the engine are kind of like watching a
teenager do more work to avoid a job
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
If the only concern was some bearings and debris in the pan, I'd let
sleeping dogs lie. Metal stuff resting in the bottom
I had a friend with suspected metal in his pan and he stuck thin magnets on
the outside and forgot about it. I never heard the rest of the story, but
there may not have been one.
Harry
If the only concern was some bearings and debris in the pan, I'd let
sleeping dogs lie. Metal stuff
, 2009 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
Max:
Sorry, but I did the ball bearing-ectomy 2-1/2 years ago, many of the
details are becoming vague.
All of these schemes to avoid pulling the engine are kind of like
watching a teenager do more work
I like it...
Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
I had a friend
Message -
From: Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310
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Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:22:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
Peter
Max:
I am not in a good position to recommend what you should do or how to do it.
I can only describe what I experienced. In my job planning, I decided it
was not going to take much (if any) additional time and effort to remove the
engine.
Since I have never done the job without removing the
Are we getting ahead of ourselves here?
How much work is it to pull the vac pump and see if it still has its bearings
and if the timer face is chewed up?
If the bearings haven't scattered, then there's no need to figure out how to
retrieve them.
Mitch.
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Max
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
True, need to make sure that parts haven't dropped first. When I did
the vacuum pump on an OM603, I removed the radiator and upper radiator
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Would massive failure of the brake booster cause same symptoms (hard
brake pedal, no vacuum for fuel shut-off and for HVAC)?
On the older cars, both ports from the vac pump go to the brakes, so a major
leak on the brake side could cause
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
If the only concern was some bearings and debris in the pan, I'd let
sleeping dogs lie
Absolutely!
Ned
Are we getting ahead of ourselves here?
How much work is it to pull the vac pump and see if it still has its
bearings and if the timer face is chewed up?
If the bearings haven't scattered, then there's no need to figure out
how to retrieve them.
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
DieselSpecial Edition
The oil pressure pegging means the pressure sensor is bad, or the wire
is unhooked.
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
OK, now I've got two things to worry about. The oil pressure gauge
seemed
Max:
The vacuum pump on my 95 E300D disintegrated. So the pumps from that year
must still be vulnerable.
And Marshall was correct. There is a cam mounted on the front of the fuel
injection pump that drives the vacuum pump.
It is kind of like a wobble disk. The surface of that cam was trashed
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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes
E300DieselSpecial Edition
Max:
The vacuum pump on my 95 E300D disintegrated. So
Are there other openings to the oil pan that could be used to gain
access?
I don't remember any other openings in that oil pan.
Some other OM60x engines (like the 603?) have a large plate on the right
side that can be removed.
But these 606 variants have a fully enclosed sump.
Ned
ned kleinhenz wrote:
Max:
The vacuum pump on my 95 E300D disintegrated.
Ned, were you the fellow who waited some number of months for a part on that
engine?
Mitch.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:45:46 -0400 Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
Ned,
Thanks, sure hope I don't end up pulling the engine on this one. I'm
planning to fish out any bearings etc. via the oil drain plug and the
hole for the oil level sensor.
I don't recall a sub-sump or pan on the 606 engine. There is only a large,
baffled oil pan. Removing that oil pan with the engine in-situ, required a
significant part of the work needed to pull the engine. So I just pulled
the engine. Besides, I prefer to work on things when I can have plenty
That car does not have tracking control, what you are seeing is the
hydraulics for the ASD (locking diff)
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Gents,
Here's a couple pix of a car I bought last night. It was advertised for
$2200. I was thrilled to find that it has SLS,
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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:55 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 Diesel
Special Edition
That car does not have tracking control, what you are seeing
A 606 that idles rough might have the original glow plugs (nobody wants to
change those things) or craptastic fuel fittings that leak air into the IP.
(and then there's all the fun electrical issues from the biodegradable wiring)
Check on that vac pump before the oil pump tries to eat the vac
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 Diesel
Special Edition
That car does not have tracking control, what you are seeing is the
hydraulics for the ASD (locking diff)
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Gents,
Here's
List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300 DieselSpecial
Edition
ASR uses the wheel sensors from the ABS system. It eases up on the throttle and
applies the brake to the spinning wheel if necessary. It did not appear on
diesels until they used the electronically
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
Gents,
Here's a couple pix of a car I bought last night. It was advertised for
$2200.
What a bargain! I would be all over that if I saw one near me!
Alex
Max;
I recognize those symptoms very vividly from my 95 E300D.
The vacuum pump has failed.
Try not to run the engine until you replace the pump.
The pump has a lot of little ball bearings that often drop into the timing
case and/or crank case when the pump fails.
You'll love this car when you get
Of ned kleinhenz
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:00 AM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
DieselSpecial Edition
Max;
I recognize those symptoms very vividly from my 95 E300D.
The vacuum pump has failed.
Try not to run the engine until you replace
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Ned,
Thanks, I'm really looking forward to getting this car sorted.
When did the MB vacuum pumps finally get re-designed so that the parts
don't fall into the engine? I was hoping before 1994 (when this car was
built).
Somebody on this
of the injection pump timer.
Max
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:35 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New addition to the fleet: 1995 Mercedes E300
The only 124 in the US that came with SLS was the wagon. It is for sure
the ADS. It uses the same hydraulic setup to lock the diff.
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
That could be it. There was a yellow triangle in center of the
instrument panel with the acronym.
So
The oil pressure pegging means the pressure sensor is bad, or the wire
is unhooked.
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
OK, now I've got two things to worry about. The oil pressure gauge
seemed to be malfunctioning - it would peg at 3.0 BEFORE the engine was
started, and
You are selling it for $400? how ya gonna make money to impress the
GF like that? I know a guy who is looking. Tell me what ya want for it!
At 02:06 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
$400. Not a bad deal.
On 11/26/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Woohoo! How much?
At 07:14 AM
I'm not selling it for $400 - I bought it for $400. If your guy is really
interested, give me his email address and I'll send him pictures.
On Nov 27, 2007 7:17 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are selling it for $400? how ya gonna make money to impress the
GF like that? I know
it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new
brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit,
don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood.
On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Loren Faeth wrote:
Speaking of which, you ever gonna send me pics?
It might be easier to just have you and the missus come out for dinner on a
Saturday...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:29:52 -0500
From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List
Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but
lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes
out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as I have
money for cars, but not for a ring.
On 11/26/07, wilton strickland
Woohoo! How much?
At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new
brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit,
don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood.
On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch
for it.
Bob R.
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On Behalf Of Sunil Hari
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition
Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but
lately
Uh oh, it's starting. A preview of Things To Come.
--R
Sunil Hari wrote:
Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but
lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes
out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as
BTW...if she goes ballistic about the car, I have an 18 year old son
who'll
give you $425 for it.
...and possibly more for the GF!
-- Jim
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...and possibly more for the GF!
Possiblyhe's figuring out they cost money. He told me the other day,
after getting the heave ho from some little Goth wench, that cars are a
better investment.
Bob R.
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OY! Reminds me of the recent widow who was telling a friend, So on his
deathbed Murray told me I should sell his Benz to pay for his funeral buy a
stone. (Extends hand)... You like it???
on 11/26/07 11:10 AM, Rich Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Uh oh, it's starting. A preview of Things
$400. Not a bad deal.
On 11/26/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Woohoo! How much?
At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new
brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit,
don't need to
We got some wax from a Dentist, carved our own rings, then gave a
dental lab $16 worth of silver, and had then cast the rings for us.
Probably had $10 of sliver left over. That's less than the the least
I've ever paid for a car ($25.00).
she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it
My wife, in what fit of idiocy I do not know, actually mailed
me a link to a $1900 craigslist 300TD, 1979 vintage.
I think it was a trap, I declined to pursue it.
-- Jim
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Way to go Sunil. You were never out of the club, just hated to see you
Benzless. All joking aside, the 240D-esp. the early ones w/o ACC w/ manual
windows, etc are very solid cars-I have two of them right now.
Keep us posted (so to speak.)
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 215K
I'm sure it was a test.
Well done, Jim!
Bob R.
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition (not)
My wife, in what fit of idiocy I do
You are a serious bottom feeder! Congratulations on the new addition!
--R
Sunil Hari wrote:
1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with brown MB-Tex interior. Got
it for $400 and immediately drove it 80 miles home without incident.
Back in the club!
Good job, Sunil.
You'll love it I'm sure.
Bob R.
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:20 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] new addition
1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with
Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed.
At 09:52 PM 11/25/2007, you wrote:
You are a serious bottom feeder! Congratulations on the new addition!
--R
Sunil Hari wrote:
1980 MB 240D - 256,xxx miles, yellow/rust with brown MB-Tex interior. Got
it for $400 and
Loren Faeth wrote:
Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed.
He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it.
I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-)
Mitch.
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1) For beginning maintenance issues - oil, air, ATF, fuel filters and
fluids; diff fluid. Glow plugs are good. What else am I forgetting?
Good thing the glow plugs are good... changing them is an all-day job.
Wait, this is a 602, right? Are they as well-hidden as on a 603? Anyone?
You
When I drove it yesterday, it was scary fast compared to my 123. Very low
noise level + good stereo = 90 MPH by accident.
Can I use 123 fuel and air filters in a 124?
On 2/6/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) For beginning maintenance issues - oil, air, ATF, fuel filters
Hi Sunil,
Congratulations! I've been searching for one of those for a few
months - they're amazing cars IMHO - haven;t owned one but all the owners
I;ve known have raved about them! While I'm crazy about my W123 240D, I;d
like a newer diesel and a early 90s 300D 2.5 looks perfect! I
There are different part numbers on Rusty's site for 123 and 124 fuel
and oil filters - so I'm guessing that no is the answer -- .
Can I use 123 fuel and air filters in a 124?
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or
Yup, sure is a sweet car! Glad I made the trip, and didn't leave without it!
On 2/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hesitated
and missed out on Don Snook's 2.5 - maybe next time I'll react a little
quicker. Plus the distance and some other problems complicated the sale.
Sunil, a WONDERFUL car. I'd do the ATF with Mobil 1, big difference when
cold. Fuel filters are easy to get at and take 15 minutes to change. I
have started mine in 5 below here in Rhode Island with no block heater used.
Just an incredible, reliable, FUN car.
John Peterson
Kingston RI
1991
3) I plugged in the block heater for 1.5 hours, and when I turned on
the
car I didn't notice a difference in startup temperature. Temp outside
was
24 F. Is this normal or abnormal?
You should hear a gentle sizzle as the heater operates. You won't if
it's noisy around though. The car
Use Mobil 1, and forget the block heater - works for me.
Otherwise, measure continuity between the prongs on the heater power
cord - there should not be an open circuit.
On 2/5/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3) I plugged in the block heater for 1.5 hours, and when I turned on
the
coming from anyone else, I might be offended! :-)
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are out of control.
Christopher McCann wrote:
1992 Canadian VW Golf (diesel). After working fine for months, my friend
drive it through a creek and smashed the water separator under the car.
you are out of control.
Christopher McCann wrote:
1992 Canadian VW Golf (diesel). After working fine for months, my friend drive
it through a creek and smashed the water separator under the car. Got the air
out of the lines - sort of - long story - then drove four hours to Kansas city
AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock
copy-cat
On 1/13/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1992 Canadian VW Golf (diesel). After working fine for months, my friend
drive it through a creek and smashed the water separator under the car. Got
the air out of the lines
I think he's trying to compete with Kaleb for lowest price and best value.
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:55:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition to diesel flock
copy-cat
On 1/13/06
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I think he's trying to compete with Kaleb for lowest price and best value.
Maybe just lowest price...
--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
we'll see once I start tearing into it.
Chris
John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote:
I think he's trying to compete with Kaleb for lowest price and best value.
Maybe just lowest price...
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John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
Luther Gulseth wrote:
true, it is a Vdub
I was implying that the Vdub was of more value than Kleb's usual parts car
specials, not the other way around. ;-)
--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi
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