I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so
I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and
gave it a few whacks using a big socket as a drift. I wasn't swinging very
hard but the ball joint started coming out after just a few whacks. I
Good job!
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so
I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and
gave it a few whacks using a big socket as a drift. I
'Nother ATTABOY!
Wilton
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From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
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Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH
I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had
Ye of little faith! Is this not what I said to do? YES
--R (If in doubt, get a bigger hammer)
On 11/15/13 3:06 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so
I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and
I bought a 4 lb hammer ... the bigger hammer did most of the magic.
Ah, the magic of the BFH. Do not neglect the B part, it's important!
-- Jim
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] 126 Lower Ball Joints
Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw
on to press down on the BJ (I think the fairing around the part that
goes in the knuckle -- it fits over the stud) at the proper angle.
--R
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Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw
on to press down on the BJ (I think the fairing around the part that
goes in the knuckle -- it fits
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas
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Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw
on to press down on the BJ (I think
we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in
frame and alignment work. They do great work and are realistically
priced to boot.. Look for a similar speciality and they as usually very
skilled at suspension work...
They did a ball joint on our 78 240D for $65 incl
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we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in
frame and alignment work. They do great work and are realistically
priced to boot
Of Larry T
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we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in
frame and alignment work. They do great work and are realistically
priced to boot.. Look for a similar
it back together.
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Thomas
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I don't know what tool you are getting, but all
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I don't know what tool you are getting, but all the wisdom I have
gathered says that using the Benz BJ
.
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Thomas
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Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw
on to press down
Some FLAPS will loan tools like the BJ press - often for free if you buy
at least some parts from them.they usually get a deposit equal to
the cost of the tool in case you want to keep it ;-)
around here, Advance Auto and AutoZone both loan tools..
As other mentioned, getting the BJ out
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Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:05 PM
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A big vise and a 6 lb hammer should get them out just fine, but
getting a new on in is a huge pain.
I bought
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
If you are not going to make a practice of installing ball joints, having
it done by a place that knows what they are doing makes sense.
...if you can find such a place.
I'm reminded of the time I replaced the ball
At 5:32 PM -0500 11/9/13, Scott Ritchey wrote:
I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint
but so far it appears not to have moved. The main problem (I think) is
holding the knuckle still while I try to drive the old BJ out. Does anyone
have any advice here?
Pickle fork won't do a thing for this application -- he's not trying
to get the control arm off, he's trying to get the ball joint itself
out of the steering knuckle. On the W126/W123, the ball joint is
pressed into the knuckle, not the control arm. The control arm goes
inside the
Okay, if Scott has a very heavy duty vice, a breakover handle, a cheater
pipe that fits the breakover handle, and a local Autozone, he can try the
cheapest way to remove it. Autozone loans the tool free. You pay new price
and they refund when you bring it back.
Don't know if 126s are
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:09:48 -0700 G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
This might be helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PjkfDp8mLE
Note the downward force bar PLUS the BFH application
This might also be helpful, since it's on a W126 Mercedes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6To8ymriN8
What started out as a brake job has grown to include replacing the lower
ball joints as well (torn boots). I'm doing one side at a time and I've
removed the knuckle from the left side so far.
I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint
but so far it appears
You want to have a Benz shop press in the new ones. Getting the old
ones out involves a BFH and the knuckle on a vise or something that can
take the pounding. A little PB might help, and the hot wrench, but
mostly just the BFH.
--R
On 11/9/13 5:32 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
What started
A big vise and a 6 lb hammer should get them out just fine, but
getting a new on in is a huge pain.
I bought a cheap ball joint press and it failed on the first attempt.
I bought a $200 one, and it works well enough that my brother does the
job for our local retired independent MB guy.
I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball
joint
but so far it appears not to have moved. The main problem (I think) is
holding the knuckle still while I try to drive the old BJ out. Does
anyone
have any advice here?
If these have tapered posts, the thing that
The ball joints go in from the top on the steering knuckle on a W126
(or a W123, same design). Takes a substantial hammer to drive them
out, and a very narrow and short nosed press tool to push the new ones
in. Low quality ball joint press tools will fail it you try to use
them, and it
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A big vise and a 6 lb hammer should get them out just fine, but
getting a new on in is a huge pain.
I bought a cheap ball joint press and it failed on the first attempt.
I bought a $200 one, and it works well enough that my
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
The ball joint is pressed into the knuckle and that's where I'm stuck.
I have a big vice that has rough jaws that will chew up the knuckle so
I was hesitant to really bite into the knuckle with the vice. But I
guess
will hurt it but it just seems tacky.
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13 -0500 Scott Ritchey
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I guess it's the old adage: Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
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Others
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Toscano
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Others have said it already, but a BIG hammer can make a big difference. 5
lb is probably the minimum for suspension work because anything less
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Others have said it already, but a BIG hammer can make a big difference.
5
lb is probably the minimum for suspension work because anything less will
just about bounce off. ;^)
On Saturday, November 9, 2013, Scott Ritchey wrote
Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the
lower BJ with the rotor in place...
Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum
brackets at the back of the wheelhouses...
Mine were good and tight... Split boots and rusted solid. Those are a
PITA to
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints
Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the
lower BJ with the rotor in place...
Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum
brackets at the back of the wheelhouses
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:33:08 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone know of where I could rent this proper MB tool?
Rusty?
Craig
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Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the
lower BJ with the rotor in place...
Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum
brackets at the back
I'll get some in a day or two -- gonna be nuts here for the next couple days.
Peter
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Sent: Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM
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Peter,
Do you have any
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints
Peter,
Do you have any pictures of the modified press? That would help to
be able to duplicate it. I know the HF press is bendable, cause the
bent o'reilley rental was the same thing. I put moderate pressure on
it and then whacked the base with a hammer
Now I get to figure out what I need to change the lower ball joints
on the SDL next.I printed out the jobs from the CD.
Anyone got any pointers about the 126 Job? Do you have to take the
hub off the spindle as the cd shows?
Fortunately, this is a southern rust-free car too, so there
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From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Apr 12, 2010 11:07 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints
Now I get to figure out what I need to change the lower ball joints
on the SDL next.I printed out the jobs from the CD.
Anyone got any
most of the way in and
cocked is asking for trouble.
Peter
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Sent: Apr 12, 2010 11:07 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints
Now I get to figure out what I need to change the lower ball joints
on the SDL
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