Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wrong side, water is in driver side.
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'95 E300

On August 10, 2017 10:30:28 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Rusted out under the battery box.
>
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> August 5, 2017 at 4:38 AM
>> Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up 
>> with water after torrential rains. 

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Rusted out under the battery box.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
August 5, 2017 at 4:38 AM
Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up 
with water after torrential rains. We recently replaced the driver’s 
door seal which was worn and a replacement included with the car when 
I bought it.


I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not 
missing anything:


Sunroof drain
Condensate line from AC

Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield? Anyplace else I 
need to look for possible intrusion points? Even if the sunroof seals 
well, can water still get in?


Thanks,

-D


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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had the same exact problem in my 1985 300td. After a torrential rainstorm
the car basically flooded. Eventually it was diagnosed as a torn grommet
for I believe the speedometer cable or some such. If not that, check the
drains under the hood. In the 300td there's a drain on either side of the
hood hinges that are designed to catch leaves and make compost in situ.

On Aug 8, 2017 1:28 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Does the 124 use a rubber seal? When they did the windshield in my '85
> 190D he glued it in with what looked like a cordless caulk gun.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Larry Turner via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: Larry Turner <l02tur...@comcast.net>
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
>
> The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses
> (there are 2) become dislodged.  The trick is watching when the water
> appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in
> rain.  It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO.  I had my windshield
> replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass.  I re-used
> the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one.
>
> Good luck,
> LarryT
> 91 300D
>
>
> On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular
> area I should look closely at to see?
> >
> > Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but
> also check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Does the 124 use a rubber seal? When they did the windshield in my '85 190D he 
glued it in with what looked like a cordless caulk gun.
-Curt


  From: Larry Turner via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Larry Turner <l02tur...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
   
The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses 
(there are 2) become dislodged.  The trick is watching when the water 
appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in 
rain.  It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO.  I had my windshield 
replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass.  I re-used 
the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one.

Good luck,
LarryT
91 300D


On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular area I 
> should look closely at to see?
>
> Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
>> check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:54:37 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It's definitely after torrential downpours, so I'm pretty confident
> it's not the condensate drains.
> 
> I thought the W124 had a glued on windshield, not one with a seal?  I'm
> almost positive that's the case.

Yes, it's glued on. I had one replaced when we were in Los Alamos.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

It's definitely after torrential downpours, so I'm pretty confident it's not 
the condensate drains.

I thought the W124 had a glued on windshield, not one with a seal?  I'm almost 
positive that's the case.

-D

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses (there 
> are 2) become dislodged.  The trick is watching when the water appears - when 
> it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in rain.  It is easier to 
> reseal the windshield IMO.  I had my windshield replaced last year for less 
> than $200 including new glass.  I re-used the w'seal without a problem but 
> you might want to find a new one.
> 
> Good luck,
> LarryT
> 91 300D
> 
> 
>> On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular area I 
>> should look closely at to see?
>> 
>> Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but 
>>> also check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses 
(there are 2) become dislodged.  The trick is watching when the water 
appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in 
rain.  It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO.  I had my windshield 
replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass.  I re-used 
the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one.


Good luck,
LarryT
91 300D


On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular area I 
should look closely at to see?

Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.

-D



On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bingo - torn grommet through the firewall.

If not take it to a glass shop to run a leak test on the w/s.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe you have a hole in the firewall allowing water in.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 5, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with
> water after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door seal
> which was worn and a replacement included with the car when I bought it.
> >
> > I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not
> missing anything:
> >
> > Sunroof drain
> > Condensate line from AC
> >
> > Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I
> need to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals
> well, can water still get in?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe you have a hole in the firewall allowing water in.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with water 
> after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door seal which 
> was worn and a replacement included with the car when I bought it.
> 
> I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not missing 
> anything:
> 
> Sunroof drain
> Condensate line from AC
> 
> Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I need 
> to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals well, can 
> water still get in?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular area I 
should look closely at to see?

Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
> check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Scratch that, I was reading passenger, you wrote driver foot well.
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2017 9:12:34 AM EDT, Max Dillon  wrote:
>Right fender liner, stud for holding liner on the outside face of the
>foot well.  Pull the liner and check this area for rust.  That is where
>my '87 wagon rusted through and allows water to get in.
>
>I had that patched and it held for about a year, but now it is leaking
>again.
>
>The cowl drain discharges right onto this stud, which eventually (rust
>never sleeps) will hole the body.
>-- 
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
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>'95 E300
>
>On August 5, 2017 5:38:08 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up
>with
>>water after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door
>>seal which was worn and a replacement included with the car when I
>>bought it.
>>
>>I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not
>>missing anything:
>>
>>Sunroof drain
>>Condensate line from AC
>>
>>Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else
>I
>>need to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals
>>well, can water still get in?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-D
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Right fender liner, stud for holding liner on the outside face of the foot 
well.  Pull the liner and check this area for rust.  That is where my '87 wagon 
rusted through and allows water to get in.

I had that patched and it held for about a year, but now it is leaking again.

The cowl drain discharges right onto this stud, which eventually (rust never 
sleeps) will hole the body.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2017 5:38:08 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with
>water after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door
>seal which was worn and a replacement included with the car when I
>bought it.
>
>I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not
>missing anything:
>
>Sunroof drain
>Condensate line from AC
>
>Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I
>need to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals
>well, can water still get in?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-D
>
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[MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with water 
after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door seal which was 
worn and a replacement included with the car when I bought it.

I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not missing 
anything:

Sunroof drain
Condensate line from AC

Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I need to 
look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals well, can water 
still get in?

Thanks,

-D


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