On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
nothing.
Sort of like having an old Chevy?
Randy
When the Smart came out with its poor numbers, and a
2000 Jetta TDI did 50-55 MPG
On Saturday, June 29, 2013, Gerry Archer wrote:
On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
nothing.
Sort of like
Dieselhead wrote:
I got 28 to 32 mpg in my 1962 190Dc! FORTY years ago! A 5 seat sedan.
No A/c but i could set the heat seperately right or left. I could set
the fan speed anywhere I wanted it, and the NAcc always worked!
My mom's 62 Rambler did it on gasoline.
Mitch.
Any time someone mentions a Smart, I think back to the BMW Isetta which was
somewhat smaller than the Smart. They were popular with some students at
the university until one came down Main Street going pretty fast, hit a curb
(someone said), and went airborne; landing on the other side of of a
The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
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On Jun 26, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
They are surprisingly fun to drive. Seats are firm, you sit high, and they
are peppy and handle nimbly.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM,
Any time someone mentions a Smart, I think back to the BMW Isetta
which was somewhat smaller than the Smart. They were popular with
some students at the university until one came down Main Street
going pretty fast, hit a curb (someone said), and went airborne;
landing on the other side of of
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
Are we talking about the same car? The one time I drove a Smart I felt
like I was in a phone booth on wheels. I expected it to feel like a VW
Microbus with nothing behind the
That was a different, crappy Smart. The good ones are very roomy and fun
to drive.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
The passenger compartment is also surprisingly roomy.
Are we
He must have driven the Remedial
--R
On 6/27/13 10:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
That was a different, crappy Smart. The good ones are very roomy and fun
to drive.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM,
We see a lot of them here, even passing us at over 70 on the interstates.
If they got better mileage than the Passat, we would have considered one,
but the Passat is three times the size -- --
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OK Don
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
We see a lot of them here, even passing us at over 70 on the interstates.
If they got better mileage than the Passat, we would have considered one,
but the
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
I think I'll wait!
-- Jim
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For new and used parts go to
Maintenance costs are tiny, though. The 10K servicing cost like $150.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be
On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one in
On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
consideration if I sell my white wagon...
I think I would rather have a Prius if it came to that.
The cab drivers around here say you cannot wear them out.
Randy
The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
consideration if I sell my white wagon...
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Fuel economy is not spectacular,
No not a Prius. That's a tree hugger pussymobile!
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The Smart Electric is coming, tough. I may have to give that serious
consideration if I sell my white
And an electric Smart car is not
Randy
On 27/06/2013 1:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
No not a Prius. That's a tree hugger pussymobile!
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On 27/06/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel
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Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test
probably even convince the people she rents space from to put in an
outside outlet for her, it would be good PR for the office.
-Curt
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Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote
Fiesta, use regular gas
and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
-Curt
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On 27/06/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly nothing.
Sort of like having an old Chevy?
Randy
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one in the
USA.
I saw a TV ad (!) for a diesel (!) Chevy (!) Cruze.
Given the amount of TV I've seen this year they must be running it pretty
] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
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Electric cars make a lot of sense if you have a short commute and can keep
another car around for longer drives. We've oft considered one for Angie's
20 mile round trip. Keep
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Does anyone know the long-term issues of the batteries in these cars? When
will the battery require replacement? What does that cost? What are the
I don't know specifically for the newer cars, but per the folks who
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The savings
The measure where the Smart wins is cute, though that one is in the eye
of the beholder ---
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
So buy a cheap Hyundai with the long warranty, get better fuel
economy, more room, etc. though parking might
On Jun 27, 2013 11:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all so small/insignificcant that they cost nearly
nothing.
I don't understand why Smart parts should be any cheaper than parts for
Because they are proportionately smaller.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Jun 27, 2013 11:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:
The savings in the Smart are in its low maintenace cost and cheap OEM
parts, which are all
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Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, OK Don okd
On Jun 27, 2013 8:17 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Fuel economy is not spectacular, around 28 mpg in-town using high test.
So, right around what you get in an SDL.
Something that size ought to be 38, or 48.
The diesel Smart gets 50+ mpg; of course they don't sell that one
BZZZTTT! Wrong, 28mpg in a car that size that requires premium SUCKS.
For basically the same money you could have Ford Fiesta, use regular
gas and get BETTER highway mileage while having twice the car...
-Curt
Hear hear!
I got 28 to 32 mpg in my 1962 190Dc! FORTY years ago! A 5 seat
I have seen a couple of them for sale used. For a little go-kart they
are might dear. A used one 2-3yo was more than a new Focus I looked at.
--R
On 6/26/13 6:12 PM, OK Don wrote:
The Smart was designed by Swatch, who brought in MB for manufacturing
assistance, tehn sold the whole thing to
They are surprisingly fun to drive. Seats are firm, you sit high, and they
are peppy and handle nimbly.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
I have seen a couple of them for sale used. For a little go-kart they are
might dear. A used one
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