Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-16 Thread Larry T
27;84 190D. The pressure bleeder made all the difference... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:18:10 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding Message-ID: <51e404a2.5070...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Just like my results with my '84 190D. The pressure bleeder made all the difference... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:18:10 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding Message-ID: <51e404a2.5070...@constructivity.net> Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: I'll give another try bleeding, maybe fix up a pressure cap and give that a try. Might be time for a new MC anyway as long as I am refreshing the brake system. I was pretty sure the Olds' MC got damaged with the pump and bleed, because I had clear fluid running on all fou

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I only pumped the pedal after all the bleeding, did not pump it to the floor, partway maybe 3-4 times when it got hard. I took that to be sucking fluid into the MC after the draining/bleeding/all new fluid. I'll give another try bleeding, maybe fix up a pressure cap and give that a try. Migh

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
cedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Brake bleeding Message-ID: <51e332de.8040...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spentĀ  like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Wen

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Master cylinders love to go south just after you change rotors, calipers, pads etc. When that's the timing, it's usually because the bleeding was done by pedal pumping, and the pedal went lower than it ever went in driving. If there was a ridge of crud on the cylinder

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:48 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > I'd rule out other problems first but > you may have a sick MC. It is not cheap either. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=yglzay45j54svz45lxbg2g55&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1194038@300SD&year=1984&cid=14@Brake%20%26%

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Fmiser
> Rich wrote: > > The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed > in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down > slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in > there. A sinking pedal is rarely air. That is the symptom of a leak or master cylinder se

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:48:42 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > > The slow sinking pedal sounds more like a master cylinder (MC) problem > than air in the lines. On an old MC the area routinely "swept" by the > piston stays smooth but the untouched part of the cylinder can get > rough enough to che

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Scott Ritchey
the normal range it can wreck the piston seal. I'd rule out other problems first but you may have a sick MC. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subje

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Don't think so, was fine before. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:37 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Could there be a MC issue? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like >

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Benz Hogs
Pick a flower and enjoy it's beauty on your dining table :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (168,xxx mi) On 7/14/2013 6:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For n

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Master cylinders love to go south just after you change rotors, calipers, pads etc. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:52 PM, OK Don wrote: > Is it pre-ABS? If so, just open the bleeder valves and let gravity do the > work - not going to introduce any air that way (not that I see hoe the > mityvac would

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread OK Don
Is it pre-ABS? If so, just open the bleeder valves and let gravity do the work - not going to introduce any air that way (not that I see hoe the mityvac would either). If that doesn't work, and the resevior doesn't get too low, you have a master cylinder to replace/rebuild. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 a

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:23:10 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been > successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be > intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or > should I make a pressure cap to do

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread dseretakis
Could there be a MC issue? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like > an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times > sucking fluid with the MityVac, was gett

[MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-14 Thread Rich Thomas
I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times sucking fluid with the MityVac, was getting a tiny bit of air but it seemed mostly to be leaking around the bleeder threads (I did wrap them al