Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-05 Thread Fmiser
Philip wrote: Curious. I run only ethanol blend. Have for 25 years. I use it in all the gasoline powered machines from cars to lawn mowers to chainsaws. I can't point to one single situation where I could blame the fuel. They all seem to be doing just fine. I don't have trouble

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
before yoy start it. When in doubt, throw the old gas out. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 8:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws Is that the orange one? I have one

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Michael Canfield
in the can and in the tool before yoy start it. When in doubt, throw the old gas out. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 8:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: LOL. I go to the local 100% pure gas station and buy gas for my airplane, so it just makes sense that Kaleb needs to go to the airport to buy gas for his chain saw! The only pure gas outlets in Michigan that I know of are Lake Michigan marinas which charge more for pump gas

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I don't know if it's still the case but around here the premium (92) is/was ethanol-free. I guess that could have changed, or maybe it depends on the company. Our problem is that Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana, among others, don't require any ethanol labeling on the pumps,

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I just bought a Stihl FS 90 R string trimmer from a local dealer. Starts easily and runs great. They recommended I use premium gas and extended the warranty by a year if I bought a 6 pack of their oil. Go return that thing to Lowes and buy something from a local dealer. You'll get a good

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Jon Agne
I was perusing CL last night, and there are a number of good GT275's within 100 miles you. On Aug 4, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I just bought a Stihl FS 90 R string trimmer from a local dealer. Starts easily and runs great. They recommended I use premium gas and extended

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread OK Don
Yes, in lieu of the aviation fuel tax at the airport. On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Do you pay road tax on the gasoline you get for your airplane? Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought it probably 2-3 months ago, I doubt they would take it back. After some research I think I need to maybe adjust the carb but got to get one of them special screw drivers. Also, it starts Ok and runs Ok for a while but after it gets good and hot after using it a while I think it

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Not sure what kind of driver it takes, but what you do is adjust the idle and high speed, one screw for each adjustment. Just turn the right one until it runs well at idle and high. Be careful. --R On 8/4/13 1:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: After some research I think I need to maybe

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Dan Penoff
We have ethanol in our gas here, but I'm not aware of any place where you can get non-ethanol fuel. I have a practice that has served me well since I lived in more temperate areas - I drain or run the engine out of fuel each time I use it. I just finished cutting the grass between

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its got some sort of special screw thing that takes a special tool On 8/4/2013 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Not sure what kind of driver it takes, but what you do is adjust the idle and high speed, one screw for each adjustment. Just turn the right one until it runs well at idle and high. Be

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Our problem is that Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana, among others, don't require any ethanol labeling on the pumps, so the only way to know is to do a water separation test on it. Since the nearest pumps to me that are properly labeled are in Illinois,

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: Curious. I run only ethanol blend. Have for 25 years. I use it in all the gasoline powered machines from cars to lawn mowers to chainsaws. I can't point to one single situation where I could blame the fuel. They all seem to be doing just fine. I don't

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There are stations around here that have banners out front that say pure gas no ethanol. I guess maybe I should try some. On 8/4/2013 1:05 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: Curious. I run only ethanol blend. Have for 25 years. I use it in all the gasoline powered

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
The blend is OK if you don't let it age. The problem is greatest in 2-cycle machines that get put away with fuel-oil mix still in the tank or in the can of left over 2-cycle mix that gets saved for next year. The ethanol blend is just a lot more perishable than the gas of old. I have to wonder

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond
. When I do I'll give dad my saw. Like Mitch said, chainsaws come from a chainsaw shop... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:16:04 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws Message-ID: D1480CC6E80E4C5399FD07326A4997FE

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond
the best. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:09:40 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws Message-ID:     CALHJ_1B-myBPTffORmNSdm=uw3pxvzr4goftnhy5vkkgwyo...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:16:04 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws Message-ID: D1480CC6E80E4C5399FD07326A4997FE@ScottPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Stale gasoline

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Not sure what kind of driver it takes, but what you do is adjust the idle and high speed, one screw for each adjustment. Just turn the right one until it runs well at idle and high. Be careful. If it's running right, it should four stroke at full throttle out of the wood

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: We have ethanol in our gas here, but I'm not aware of any place where you can get non-ethanol fuel. I have a practice that has served me well since I lived in more temperate areas - I drain or run the engine out of fuel each time I use it. I wouldn't intentionally run

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I don't know how trustworthy it is, but pure-gas.org claims to list stations that sell ethanol-free fuel. Locally, I've seen bad info there, like some fool will say the mid grade at the Meijer on Pennsylvania Avenue is ethanol free. Nope, all Meijer stores in the Lansing

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I cut some more on this tree a couple times today. If you let it die when hot it can be a bitch to restart. I think maybe I'm figuring out the trick I did get it restarted fairly soon a couple of times but still figuring out the combination of pumping the bulb, using choke or not etc. if Sony

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Ethanol is hygroscopic, it attracts water so if a can is left open it'll ruin the gas quickly. My dad somehow can't learn this, none of his cans are capped... The other problem is ethanol is an oxidizing agent. Since the EPA mandates oxygenated fuel in what I assume is a

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I cut some more on this tree a couple times today. If you let it die when hot it can be a bitch to restart. I think maybe I'm figuring out the trick I did get it restarted fairly soon a couple of times but still figuring out the combination of pumping the bulb, using

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
These 2-cycle all-attitude diaphragm-style carbs are quite different from the float bowl carbs on most 4-cycle engines. On a float-bowl carb you can usually drop the float bowl and clean the corrosion and varnish from the main jet and needle valve. Diaphragm carbs are littered with small fuel

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread OK Don
I ran relatively controlled tests with the ML when I was commuting to work in it, and found that the increased mileage matched the increased cost of ethonol free gas to make the cost per mile equal between the two. Even though it costs a few cents more at the pump, the ethanol free gas will cost

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-04 Thread Dieselhead
Curious. I run only ethanol blend. Have for 25 years. I use it in all the gasoline powered machines from cars to lawn mowers to chainsaws. I can't point to one single situation where I could blame the fuel. They all seem to be doing just fine. I don't have trouble either hot or cold with

[MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at lowes. I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc. I figured it was because maybe the gas was a little old I used. So today I needed to use it to cut up a

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Is that the orange one? I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism broke on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one. Once I get it going it runs ok but is hard to start even with the compression relief. Starts better when it is hot, from cold takes a lot of pulls and nursing it.

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think its orange, heck I dont know. How do you adjust it? On 8/3/2013 7:06 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Is that the orange one? I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism broke on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one. Once I get it going it runs ok but is hard to start even with

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread G Mann
Are you using gasoline with ethanol? If you are, the small engines in both weed eaters and chain saws do NOT like ethanol.. the Reed Vapor Pressure of ethanol / gasoline fuel is such that it runs like crap, the carb gets vapor lock [ethanol boil off point is low, so it boils and makes a pressure

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
could be, yes its crappy ethanol gas. I may try to buy some non ethanol gas. I am sick of uncle sam telling everyone what the need, such as health care and this ethanol gas. On 8/3/2013 7:12 PM, G Mann wrote: Are you using gasoline with ethanol? If you are, the small engines in both weed

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at lowes. I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc. Probably adjusted lean from the factory. If you bought a Husqvarna from an

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: There is a product you can buy that is specific for ethanol fuel that deletes the ethanol. Supposed to be the cats ass stuff. I haven't tried it ... yet... Thus turning 87 octane into what, 82 octane? If you don't use a chain saw much you can buy the nonalcoholic premix in quart

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 3, 2013 6:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: A cheaper and less handy alternative is to go to an airstrip with self serve gas pumps and get yourself a few gallons of 100LL. There's a station near where all the amateur racing events around here are held that sells 98 octane

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread OK Don
LOL. I go to the local 100% pure gas station and buy gas for my airplane, so it just makes sense that Kaleb needs to go to the airport to buy gas for his chain saw! On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: A cheaper and less handy alternative is to go to an airstrip

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know if it's still the case but around here the premium (92) is/was ethanol-free. I guess that could have changed, or maybe it depends on the company. Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: On Aug 3, 2013 6:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: A cheaper and less handy

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Fmiser
G wrote: Are you using gasoline with ethanol? If you are, the small engines in both weed eaters and chain saws do NOT like ethanol.. the Reed Vapor Pressure of ethanol / gasoline fuel is such that it runs like crap, the carb gets vapor lock [ethanol boil off point is low, so it boils and

Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:56:31 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. I go to the local 100% pure gas station and buy gas for my airplane, so it just makes sense that Kaleb needs to go to the airport to buy gas for his chain saw! Do you pay road tax on the gasoline you get for your airplane?