Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.
At this point it is mow by braille, as all the worm castings and dip/heave are solid. Still warm enough that the blade will melt the grass before chopping. I might get one more go at it if the current snow blanket melts off. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Oct 16, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > When you mow the lawn when it’s frozen like that, does it just shatter? > > -D clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.
When you mow the lawn when it’s frozen like that, does it just shatter? -D > On Oct 16, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Gave the lawn what may be the last pass with mower. Snow is on the card in > the next 36 hours. Hard frost all day, instead of the early morning dusting > on the grass. I truly hate the cold. > > clay > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, > about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of > self-recrimination and wetness.” > > B. Johnson > 01/09/2020 > >> On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It was only 93F here today, and will only get down to 73F overnight. >> Shoveling constantly to clear the drifts of sunshine here. When I wrapped up >> in the garage tonight around 8:30 it was still in the mid 80s. >> >> -D > > > clay > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, > about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of > self-recrimination and wetness.” > > B. Johnson > 01/09/2020 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.
Gave the lawn what may be the last pass with mower. Snow is on the card in the next 36 hours. Hard frost all day, instead of the early morning dusting on the grass. I truly hate the cold. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Oct 16, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > It was only 93F here today, and will only get down to 73F overnight. > Shoveling constantly to clear the drifts of sunshine here. When I wrapped up > in the garage tonight around 8:30 it was still in the mid 80s. > > -D clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.
It was only 93F here today, and will only get down to 73F overnight. Shoveling constantly to clear the drifts of sunshine here. When I wrapped up in the garage tonight around 8:30 it was still in the mid 80s. -D > On Oct 16, 2020, at 10:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hard winter is setting in here in Arizona... Overnite low was 62 and the > high today was only 101... time to get the down parka out of the closet.. > > Soon, I will have to shovel the sunshine drifts off the drive only once a > day.. > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Curt was asking about starting fluid cannisters for his snow plow. >> >> Attached is a page from FleetPride's latest flyer showing that as well >> as other cold weather engine starting aids, some of which might be >> applicable to drivers of Mercedes automobiles, but certainly not Grant >> and Dan. >> >> >> Craig >> >> P.S. I thought PNG files were small and the best choice. This picture >> was 846 kB as a PNG and is 196.9 kB as a JPG. I learned something >> new today. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather engine starting aids.
Hard winter is setting in here in Arizona... Overnite low was 62 and the high today was only 101... time to get the down parka out of the closet.. Soon, I will have to shovel the sunshine drifts off the drive only once a day.. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:02 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Curt was asking about starting fluid cannisters for his snow plow. > > Attached is a page from FleetPride's latest flyer showing that as well > as other cold weather engine starting aids, some of which might be > applicable to drivers of Mercedes automobiles, but certainly not Grant > and Dan. > > > Craig > > P.S. I thought PNG files were small and the best choice. This picture > was 846 kB as a PNG and is 196.9 kB as a JPG. I learned something > new today. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Heck I'm no Eskimo but 42 just means a long sleeve shirt in Maine. -Curt 35 this morning in Newport, ME. I left Dimitri's later than I expected and bunked at a friend's camp rather than get to my place real late. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
In Wisconsin anything above 40F is T shirt and shorts weather. I get a kick out of people down here who are freezing to death when it drops below 50F. When I worked at an elementary school and it was in the 50s or colder, it was fun to watch the kids come in with their parkas, hats and mittens. I would be wearing a long sleeved dress shirt and enjoying it Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A brisk 42F here this morning. The school kids will be at the bus stop bundled up like Eskimos. 70F or more by noon. Dan 42ºF is light jacket weather, not eskimo weather. For eskimos, 42 is shirtsleeve weather. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
We enjoyed one of the warmest Octobers in the past 15 years, folowing a cooler than normal summer, with rainfall that was exactly average... Right now November is following in October's footsteps, which suits me just fine. On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In Wisconsin anything above 40F is T shirt and shorts weather. I get a kick out of people down here who are freezing to death when it drops below 50F. When I worked at an elementary school and it was in the 50s or colder, it was fun to watch the kids come in with their parkas, hats and mittens. I would be wearing a long sleeved dress shirt and enjoying it Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 5, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A brisk 42F here this morning. The school kids will be at the bus stop bundled up like Eskimos. 70F or more by noon. Dan 42ºF is light jacket weather, not eskimo weather. For eskimos, 42 is shirtsleeve weather. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
On Nov 6, 2014 6:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I get a kick out of people down here who are freezing to death when it drops below 50F. When I worked at an elementary school and it was in the 50s or colder, it was fun to watch the kids come in with their parkas, hats and mittens. The first day it dropped below 70F my 10yo daughter pulled out her gloves, scarf, and hat (not her heavy coat, oddly). Meanwhile my 11yo older son still only wears shorts and short sleeves, down to about 40F so far. Go figure... Best, Tim Central NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
A brisk 42F here this morning. The school kids will be at the bus stop bundled up like Eskimos. 70F or more by noon. Dan 42ºF is light jacket weather, not eskimo weather. For eskimos, 42 is shirtsleeve weather. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Yes, but in Goshen you’ll get that -13F with a -30F wind chill. Not something I miss, for sure. when my youngest and I were out shooting on Sunday, I remarked that it was too bad we didn’t still live in Indiana, as very one of my employees were shooters, and one was a very accomplished gunsmith. We both looked at each other and said, Na grin He also mentioned that one of his friends from up there sent him a picture of snow falling on Halloween. I guess they got a dusting of the stuff on Friday evening. Ugh. Dan On Nov 3, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 05:36:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, but the temperature in Goshen will continue to drop as the calendar moves forward. Just wait until January or February when the Alberta Clippers come through. That's not a Canadian hockey team, either... Well, that's true, but at 7400' in north-central New Mexico, it gets cold, too. We had -13 deg.F. a few years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:38 AM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather Yes, but in Goshen you’ll get that -13F with a -30F wind chill. The Goshen area gets pounded with lake effect snow, too. He also mentioned that one of his friends from up there sent him a picture of snow falling on Halloween. I guess they got a dusting of the stuff on Friday evening. Ugh. Yep. Snow, 50 mph winds out of the North. The waves on Lake Michigan were high enough, people were surfing. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10/31/chicago-area-surfers-happy-to-hang-ten-for-halloween/ Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
It certainly does. There is an imaginary line you can draw from Lafayette through Marion, which everything north of gets pounded with lake effect snow, or at least much heavier snowfall than the rest of the state. Valparaiso, South Bend, Mishawaka, Ft. Wayne, Auburn, all of them get hammered from the snow. Thank goodness our weather pattern is returning to normal today. Lows in the 60s, highs in the mid to upper 70s. A... Craig - when are you heading north, or do you know yet? Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Goshen area gets pounded with lake effect snow, too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:19:26 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It certainly does. There is an imaginary line you can draw from Lafayette through Marion, which everything north of gets pounded with lake effect snow, or at least much heavier snowfall than the rest of the state. Valparaiso, South Bend, Mishawaka, Ft. Wayne, Auburn, all of them get hammered from the snow. I see ... Craig - when are you heading north, or do you know yet? As soon as we sell our house, whenever that might be. You can see it at zillow.com; just enter our address (153 Chamisa, Los Alamos, NM) and hit return. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Yes, but the temperature in Goshen will continue to drop as the calendar moves forward. Just wait until January or February when the Alberta Clippers come through. That's not a Canadian hockey team, either... Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 3, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:59:01 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We're down into the 30's for the second night, finally turned the heat on in the house. I plugged in the block heater on the White Whale, set on a timer to turn on at 5 a.m. The car will start just fine with out the block heater, but I really like to make life easy for the car and also get warm air blowing as soon as possible. It's been cold, wet, and windy here in Los Alamos. We are now at the same temperature as Goshen, Indiana: 43 degrees F. We have 100% humidity (!), but they are at only 45%. I need to bring the potted tomato in so it doesn't freeze tonight. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
A brisk 42F here this morning. The school kids will be at the bus stop bundled up like Eskimos. 70F or more by noon. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We're down into the 30's for the second night, finally turned the heat on in the house. I plugged in the block heater on the White Whale, set on a timer to turn on at 5 a.m. The car will start just fine with out the block heater, but I really like to make life easy for the car and also get warm air blowing as soon as possible. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Yes, but the temperature in Goshen will continue to drop as the calendar moves forward. Just wait until January or February when the Alberta Clippers come through. That's not a Canadian hockey team, either... Two nights ago it was 20°F at 10PM here in the Lansing area, and stayed 19-20° all night until almost 10AM. Probably mid to upper 20s in Goshen. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 05:36:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, but the temperature in Goshen will continue to drop as the calendar moves forward. Just wait until January or February when the Alberta Clippers come through. That's not a Canadian hockey team, either... Well, that's true, but at 7400' in north-central New Mexico, it gets cold, too. We had -13 deg.F. a few years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
Original Message From: Craig via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 05:36:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, but the temperature in Goshen will continue to drop as the calendar moves forward. Just wait until January or February when the Alberta Clippers come through. That's not a Canadian hockey team, either... Well, that's true, but at 7400' in north-central New Mexico, it gets cold, too. We had -13 deg.F. a few years ago. Yeah, but it's a dry cold. ;-) Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Cold weather
We're down into the 30's for the second night, finally turned the heat on in the house. I plugged in the block heater on the White Whale, set on a timer to turn on at 5 a.m. The car will start just fine with out the block heater, but I really like to make life easy for the car and also get warm air blowing as soon as possible. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:59:01 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We're down into the 30's for the second night, finally turned the heat on in the house. I plugged in the block heater on the White Whale, set on a timer to turn on at 5 a.m. The car will start just fine with out the block heater, but I really like to make life easy for the car and also get warm air blowing as soon as possible. It's been cold, wet, and windy here in Los Alamos. We are now at the same temperature as Goshen, Indiana: 43 degrees F. We have 100% humidity (!), but they are at only 45%. I need to bring the potted tomato in so it doesn't freeze tonight. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] cold weather - heater etc
Cool here today. Some flurries in the air and I hear there is a foot of snow on the ground about a hundred miles north of here. I have been driving my car a bit as it is about to be put away for the winter at the end of the month. The insurance runs out on Oct 31 and I won't renew it until spring. It starts fine at these temperatures - about 0 C this morning but it was in the garage over night so probably a bit warmer in there. +2 C outide right now according to the weather network online. It was producing good heat at lunch when I went out with it. The one thing is that it smells - sort of like heated rubber. Anyone been there and done this? What would cause the smell and how do I improve it? I am guessing there is some sort of rubber padding or gasket etc in near the heater core that is degrading over time. I had the heater core out of my 1968 Chevy pickup at one time to check it out and there was some sort of rubber padding in there that was about had it so I used a piece of carpet underlay to replace the piece that I took out. Bad plan as it always smelled of hot rubber as soon as it warmed up a bit if the heater was on. I am thinking something similar is happening here with the car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather - heater etc
On Oct 22, 2013 1:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: It was producing good heat at lunch when I went out with it. The one thing is that it smells - sort of like heated rubber. What model? 124s have a foam-covered flap under the wiper transmission that activates the recirc function of the ACC. When the foam starts to rot it blows onto the heater core and melts fragrantly. Solution is to take out everything in the way and scrape the flap clean. No idea if or how this relates to 123s. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather - heater etc
76 115 300D Randy On 22/10/2013 4:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Oct 22, 2013 1:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: It was producing good heat at lunch when I went out with it. The one thing is that it smells - sort of like heated rubber. What model? 124s have a foam-covered flap under the wiper transmission that activates the recirc function of the ACC. When the foam starts to rot it blows onto the heater core and melts fragrantly. Solution is to take out everything in the way and scrape the flap clean. No idea if or how this relates to 123s. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Drygas, specifically iso-alcohol. Seafoam and Power Service Diesel Supplement tout the same... -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:03:18 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: CAC35L=t6qq9gumqurlj1_kazmfnr+wi-vwo6m0sk4burvjd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Use an additive made for that purpose. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Philip, Thanks for the flexing ideaI was trying to take the other side out first. I took a photo of the hood release mechanism. I'll see if I can figure out how to post. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Fmiser wrote: Jon Agne wrote: I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. I have the plug situated _outside_ so the hood stays closed when plugged in. The plastic cap over the contacts keeps it relatively clean and dry. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Yup. The secret is to flex the panel. I get the end by the transmission tunnel out first/in last. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yup, protectent wax for the pads of his feet. Seems to help some but down in single digits probably nothing helps all that much. I've never tried shoes on him, he's pretty tolerant, might take to them, probably just easier to stay inside when its real cold out. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:10:50 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: 20130123171050.733b2a3ab786cf1d50794...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. Paw wax? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:26:19 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: 510160ab.1020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend Actually I'd say you keep your house on the warm side, we set ours more like 18C and occasionally let it dip as low as 16.6C -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. That's a good idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mobil1 5w40 turbo diesel truck. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. That's a good idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LOL!!! On 1/23/2013 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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T'was 1F here this morning. Angie took the Ranger to work as I need to put the snows on the 190D. My 240D wouldn't start with it colder than about 15F a couple years ago. Now with whatever damage the overheating did plus the massively thick Lucas oil additive (only maybe 1/2 pint but still) in the crankcase it didn't have a chance without added heat. Last night on the way home from a customer site the 190D had a thrashing whacking noise, I pulled over and it went away. Didn't come back for ~30 miles and again I pulled over and it went away. I *think* it might be a CV joint but I'll be taking a look under the car today when I change tires. I did take a gander under the hood and found nothing amiss... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:49:36 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: CAC35L=vxrps9x4daku+mm_zutdechqaw5zmyvahc4lrbof-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dimitri, I saw you were started and gone before me. I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. This morning, I went through two glow cycles and she started, but you could tell she was not liking it! After letting her warm up for about 30 minutes, the hood release worked. Unfortunately, after driving to Portland and back, the handle on the hood release broke, so I have used vice grips to plug her back in. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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John, I know that there is a screw that holds it up by the pivot of the emergency brake pedal. As for the console side by the accelerator pedal, I think it just snaps or fits in a recess in the metal brackets there. I don't recall there being a fastener in that area. Dan On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri, I saw you were started and gone before me. I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. This morning, I went through two glow cycles and she started, but you could tell she was not liking it! After letting her warm up for about 30 minutes, the hood release worked. Unfortunately, after driving to Portland and back, the handle on the hood release broke, so I have used vice grips to plug her back in. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Minus 15 F here now at 2 PM. Has been cold for a few days and somewhat windy - surprise ??? We are on the prairies. Supposed to warm up a bit this weekend. Randy On 23/01/2013 12:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: T'was 1F here this morning. Angie took the Ranger to work as I need to put the snows on the 190D. My 240D wouldn't start with it colder than about 15F a couple years ago. Now with whatever damage the overheating did plus the massively thick Lucas oil additive (only maybe 1/2 pint but still) in the crankcase it didn't have a chance without added heat. Last night on the way home from a customer site the 190D had a thrashing whacking noise, I pulled over and it went away. Didn't come back for ~30 miles and again I pulled over and it went away. I *think* it might be a CV joint but I'll be taking a look under the car today when I change tires. I did take a gander under the hood and found nothing amiss... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jon Agne wrote: I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. I have the plug situated _outside_ so the hood stays closed when plugged in. The plastic cap over the contacts keeps it relatively clean and dry. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Yup. The secret is to flex the panel. I get the end by the transmission tunnel out first/in last. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. When we got home he didn't want me touching his feet. I'm glad I kept the walk short. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:38 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b17c5277-b659-458b-9431-626e30c40...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our Bichon gets cabin fever this time of year. He wants to go for his walk but it is just too cold. So, all evening, he wants to go in and out. Ugh! Randy On 23/01/2013 3:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. When we got home he didn't want me touching his feet. I'm glad I kept the walk short. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:38 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b17c5277-b659-458b-9431-626e30c40...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. Paw wax? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think it works better with when driven by someone else to pick up the youngun(s)... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 9, 2010, at 13:06, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, if you pay (a lot extra) for the professional versions, they come in orange. I suspect that the homeowner ones are painted green because they will decompose before someone else injures themselves on one that was forgotten during weekend chores... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 9, 2010, at 16:05, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or do you ever wonder why they always paint garden tools GREEN!! Maybe a contrasting colour wouldn't be such a bad idea for when people drop or lay them down. lol Ed 300E On 9 December 2010 14:43, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you drop a screw or nut in the grass, consider it gone. For several years, I've been trying to put catcher paper towels,etc., under a screw/nut/bolt location to try to save 'em if dropped; even then, I try to every careful not to drop 'em - not as much of a problem now that my tremor is fairly well gone. Lightly secured to a wrench or socket with masking or painter's tape helps nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullensbuymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In other words, stuff always happens at the most inopportune time. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
If you drop a screw or nut in the grass, consider it gone. For several years, I've been trying to put catcher paper towels,etc., under a screw/nut/bolt location to try to save 'em if dropped; even then, I try to every careful not to drop 'em - not as much of a problem now that my tremor is fairly well gone. Lightly secured to a wrench or socket with masking or painter's tape helps nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullensbuymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I related this following story before I apologize in advance. On the other end of the SWMBO spectrum, I was once trying to pry back the rear view mirror in the old 280SE 3.5 coupe. The mirror features a safety device consisting of a 1.25 X .5 heavy duty spring (approx.) in a bracket that allows the mirror to eject when struck with a hard blow (such as when your forehead hits it as you are being launched through the front windshield due to a collision). Presumably, this minimizes the chances of a more serious injury. Anyway, I needed to reinstall this mirror, which had been removed while the two bow-shaped wood pieces were being refinished. I parked the car in the driveway so I had enough light, and after reinstalling the wood I used a heavy duty slotted screwdriver to CAREFULLY leverage the mirror base into the bracket + retaining spring. Naturally, the worst case scenario ensued and I managed to SPROING the spring from the bracket, launching it about 30' through the open window of the coupe into the grass. Now here is the amazing part. I was tremendously motivated to find that spring (which as a practical matter could not easily be replaced). So I focused my gaze on the exact spot where I thought it had landed, walked the 12 paces or so over to that spot, bent down, and retrieved the spring from the grass on my first attempt. This is the exception that proves the rule, I guess. ALS On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you drop a screw or nut in the grass, consider it gone. For several years, I've been trying to put catcher paper towels,etc., under a screw/nut/bolt location to try to save 'em if dropped; even then, I try to every careful not to drop 'em - not as much of a problem now that my tremor is fairly well gone. Lightly secured to a wrench or socket with masking or painter's tape helps nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullensbuymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed
Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
Lucky, lucky, lucky. IF I WERE to play the lottery, I'd want YOU to pick my numbers. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? If I related this following story before I apologize in advance. On the other end of the SWMBO spectrum, I was once trying to pry back the rear view mirror in the old 280SE 3.5 coupe. The mirror features a safety device consisting of a 1.25 X .5 heavy duty spring (approx.) in a bracket that allows the mirror to eject when struck with a hard blow (such as when your forehead hits it as you are being launched through the front windshield due to a collision). Presumably, this minimizes the chances of a more serious injury. Anyway, I needed to reinstall this mirror, which had been removed while the two bow-shaped wood pieces were being refinished. I parked the car in the driveway so I had enough light, and after reinstalling the wood I used a heavy duty slotted screwdriver to CAREFULLY leverage the mirror base into the bracket + retaining spring. Naturally, the worst case scenario ensued and I managed to SPROING the spring from the bracket, launching it about 30' through the open window of the coupe into the grass. Now here is the amazing part. I was tremendously motivated to find that spring (which as a practical matter could not easily be replaced). So I focused my gaze on the exact spot where I thought it had landed, walked the 12 paces or so over to that spot, bent down, and retrieved the spring from the grass on my first attempt. This is the exception that proves the rule, I guess. ALS On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you drop a screw or nut in the grass, consider it gone. For several years, I've been trying to put catcher paper towels,etc., under a screw/nut/bolt location to try to save 'em if dropped; even then, I try to every careful not to drop 'em - not as much of a problem now that my tremor is fairly well gone. Lightly secured to a wrench or socket with masking or painter's tape helps nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullensbuymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick
Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy?
Is it just me, or do you ever wonder why they always paint garden tools GREEN!! Maybe a contrasting colour wouldn't be such a bad idea for when people drop or lay them down. lol Ed 300E On 9 December 2010 14:43, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: If you drop a screw or nut in the grass, consider it gone. For several years, I've been trying to put catcher paper towels,etc., under a screw/nut/bolt location to try to save 'em if dropped; even then, I try to every careful not to drop 'em - not as much of a problem now that my tremor is fairly well gone. Lightly secured to a wrench or socket with masking or painter's tape helps nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? It is a Law of the Universe, the Random Perversity of Nature. It also applies to the jelly-side down syndrome, and if you drop something it will always bounce or roll to the most inconvenient location. ---R On 12/9/2010 1:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullensbuymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
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You guys better hope your wives don't read these posts! hee hee. Wilton, nice safe reply. Andrew, sorry, if your wife is reading, you're cooked! lol Ed 300E On 9 December 2010 14:35, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: In other words, stuff always happens at the most inopportune time. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Max' travails illustrate some irrefutable laws of nature: 1. Perfectly functioning cars only become un-roadworthy when driven by SWMBOs. 2. Two perfectly good cars can fail simultaneously when a SWMBO is involved with at lesat one of them. 3. A perfectly functional car without a problem in the previous 12 months will stall out on a major artery on a Friday afternoon rush hour on the hottest day of the year only when - you guessed it - driven by a SWMBO. I think this is all quite unfair. Andrew On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the wagon was fully ready for daily service (need all those suspension parts you just sent me plus four new tires) I would have had the car towed to our house so I could fix at leisure... Next time I certainly hope that will be the case! -Max From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 10:39:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? yeah, I have the caliper for $85.00 but it would have been a day away. Too bad. maybe next time. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: [MBZ] cold weather conspiracy? Yesterday our household suffered two vehicle casualties. First SWMBO's car, a '96 Infiniti with about 200k miles, had the left rear caliper lock up while out and about in town. She recognized that something was wrong and handled it pretty well, but the tow company took about 2 hours to get her car towed to the tire brake place (Gerald's in Mount Pleasant) that was about 1 block away - rather frustrating. I had to leave work and assist to get her home so she could use the '87 300TD which has a child seat mounted (she needed to pick up our daughter from day care). I dropped her at the house and departed quickly to get back to work, but she called a few minutes later to report that the wagon wouldn't start - dead battery. I had to divert to the Infiniti location, retrieve that child car seat, pick the daughter and return to house, where I put the wagon's battery on the charger. Haven't had time to figure out the wagon yet - I suspect the trickle charger which I'd used on it for several weeks ago has failed. Infiniti needed a rebuilt rear caliper, which was done by 5 p.m. for $163. I'm sure I could have done that myself for less, but not by 5 p.m. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold weather
Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi
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I just took a ride out to Boychuck's(near Levi's place.) yesterday to get coal in the M37...You got it right LeviIt's way cold. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cold weather Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What'd the temp gauge for the engine read? My 190D is toasty warm within half an hour no matter how cold it is out. My 240D was as good or maybe even better... -Curt Message: 17 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:41:46 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cold weather To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 06 14:04:01 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HEQvR-0002ej-KZ for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:04:01 + Received: (qmail 6683 invoked by uid 508); 6 Feb 2007 08:03:23 -0600 Received: from 70.184.21.45 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.21.45):. Processed in 0.033511 secs); 06 Feb 2007 14:03:23 - Received: from 70-184-21-45.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.21.45) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:03:22 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 08:03:21 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:04:02 - You probably have your settings set to not receive your own posts. Harry Watkins wrote: Hi Ralph No, yours was the first. Don't know what I am doing wrong. This is the second time its happened. Harry -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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Temp gauge was resting on the bottom for the first maybe 5+ minutes(that time is pretty much downhill so idling motor but cruising at around 30mph with the occasional slight press of the pedal) Then started rising and within 15 minutes which is about the time I hit the highway it was up to around 80-90C and stayed there for the rest of the trip. I'm assuming that it didn't get any warmer any quicker due to: A) the cold (single digits, 1F when I left) b)the wind sucking out even more of the generated heat (-10 - -20F wind chills) c) the veggie tank sucking out a decent portion of heat d)the more or less exposed heater lines that run along the bottom of the car from the engine compartment to below the rear seat leaking out heat e) the lack of a working aux coolant pump I'm sure i could replace the aux coolant pump and get a bit more heat in the cabin, but it works just fine for my needs and I imagine it would suck more heat from the veggie tank. Levi On 2/6/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What'd the temp gauge for the engine read? My 190D is toasty warm within half an hour no matter how cold it is out. My 240D was as good or maybe even better... -Curt Message: 17 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 06:41:46 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cold weather To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY. It was about 1F outside. Block heater was plugged in for a couple hours before starting. It wasn't that bad, but it did take a couple tries. (Not NEARLY as bad as this weekend when it was in the single digits during the day, no block heater and 2 glow plugs were out. That took a LOT of cranking.) (: Well, on my mainly 45 minute highway commute at about 70mph, by the end of the trip my veggie tank was at about 65F and the cabin temp was up to about 45F. Levi - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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within 15 minutes which is about the time I hit the highway it was up to around 80-90C and stayed there for the rest of the trip. c) the veggie tank sucking out a decent portion of heat Could be. But so long as the engine was up to temperature there was still excess heat available in the engine. d)the more or less exposed heater lines that run along the bottom of the car from the engine compartment to below the rear seat leaking out heat You could lose a lot there. e) the lack of a working aux coolant pump Usually immaterial except at near-idle conditions. How is your veg tank plumbed? In series with the heater core? Does it get the hot water first, or second? If first, for sure your cabin comfort will suffer! A carefully-rigged parallel arrangement might be better. Could need some flow adjustment valves to get the balance right so one side didn't hog it all. -- Jim
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Oh, let's see... The veggie is T-d in at the back left of the head and then goes back to the veggie tank and then returns at a T near the alternator. So... I believe it's completely parallel, independent of the heater core(which would make sense since the heater seems to work normally. However... I can definitely see where it could be drawing off some of that initial heat that might otherwise get passed into the heater core/radiator... Levi On 2/6/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: within 15 minutes which is about the time I hit the highway it was up to around 80-90C and stayed there for the rest of the trip. c) the veggie tank sucking out a decent portion of heat Could be. But so long as the engine was up to temperature there was still excess heat available in the engine. d)the more or less exposed heater lines that run along the bottom of the car from the engine compartment to below the rear seat leaking out heat You could lose a lot there. e) the lack of a working aux coolant pump Usually immaterial except at near-idle conditions. How is your veg tank plumbed? In series with the heater core? Does it get the hot water first, or second? If first, for sure your cabin comfort will suffer! A carefully-rigged parallel arrangement might be better. Could need some flow adjustment valves to get the balance right so one side didn't hog it all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We're finally getting characteristic weather here in MN. 15 below or so and fortunately not all that windy, but a bit. I think that the water main is frozen solid in the house I'm staying at part time. Back to nature for me. My 240D is hybernating in the garage and I'm using the Honda CRV as the salty work horse. Saab sits dead still - not worth the frostbitten fingers right to attempt to fix right now. Brian Levi wrote: On 2/6/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought I'd share some of my cold weather this morning here near Corning, NY.
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Curt Raymond wrote: What'd the temp gauge for the engine read? My 190D is toasty warm within half an hour no matter how cold it is out. My 240D was as good or maybe even better... When the temp exceeds 20 below (F) in any of my 201s, it's hard to keep the cabin OR even the engine temp in the proper range without resorting to blocking air flow into the engine compartment. I made several 250+ mile trips when temps were between 20-30 below (F) and they were NOT fun. My 300TD is a little better (but when it's really cold the rear of the wagon and even the center seats are NOT warm). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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archer wrote: My '83 300D has a vacuum leak when the weather is cold, which stops when the weather is warm. The locks will operate when leaving the house, but after driving 12 miles to town in the cold air, the locks will not work. I'm not sure which part to replace first in order to try and fix it. Tracing the leak by testing one section at a time was unsuccessful; probably because the weather is not cold enough here in Florida to make it leak while the car is not moving through the cold air. Most vacuum leaks at rubber to plastic junctions only leak or leak much worse when cold. Just isolate sections of the vacuum system and test each section with a MityVac. When you find a leak, replace the piece of rubber or plastic. Marshall - Thanks, Marshall, I'll try that. Gerry
[MBZ] Cold weather vacuum leak
My '83 300D has a vacuum leak when the weather is cold, which stops when the weather is warm. The locks will operate when leaving the house, but after driving 12 miles to town in the cold air, the locks will not work. I'm not sure which part to replace first in order to try and fix it. Tracing the leak by testing one section at a time was unsuccessful; probably because the weather is not cold enough here in Florida to make it leak while the car is not moving through the cold air. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
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archer wrote: My '83 300D has a vacuum leak when the weather is cold, which stops when the weather is warm. The locks will operate when leaving the house, but after driving 12 miles to town in the cold air, the locks will not work. I'm not sure which part to replace first in order to try and fix it. Tracing the leak by testing one section at a time was unsuccessful; probably because the weather is not cold enough here in Florida to make it leak while the car is not moving through the cold air. Most vacuum leaks at rubber to plastic junctions only leak or leak much worse when cold. Just isolate sections of the vacuum system and test each section with a MityVac. When you find a leak, replace the piece of rubber or plastic. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Cold Weather
Well, I've finally found that point where as Marshall describes it: Everything must be perfect for cold weather starting. I started yesterday morning at like 15F without issue. This morning it was about 5F. At that point, I have now experienced what cold weather starting is in my 83' 300D. It DID start, but it took some effort. I think I may be able to start quicker next time. NORMALLY, if it's like 20F or lower I'll let it glow for around 10-15 seconds longer than the light says, hold the pedal to the floor and crank until it starts at which point I let off the fuel proportionately as it starts speeding up to keep it at a fast idle. It won't idle on it's own for a minute or two. HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. This would NOT have been possible with an iffy battery for sure. I couldn't believe that even this new one had that sort of power in it. (and yes I have M1 15w-50 in there). So, at this point I guess I'll plan on using the block heater if it's supposed to go into single digits. and see if I can notice a difference (cause I didn't notice a difference at around 20F). The other potential problem is that for some reason when temps around somewhere below around 20F my wipers turn into EXTREMELY slow or maybe even stop. It did it the other day, but then it's been fine this week, but this morning they did need my help to actually make it back to rest. Levi
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It was a balmy 20F here this morning (okay so it is the coldest that it has been so far this winter, most of it was above 50 so far) but Hans started up quite easily without any extra glow cycles and without plugging in. (Of course I was cold as *^*^* until it warmed up) BTW, whats the lifetime on the plastic screw-on 2 bar radiator caps (A la W210) -j -- John Reames 1985 300d (223K Gerta) 1991 Cherokee (149K the fishbowl) 1999 E300Dt (140K Hans) (the leaky one) 1999 E300Dt (106K Frantz) (the squeaky one) -- Original message -- From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Levi, The wonderful cold has finally come to visit usMy diesel van absolutely refused to start this AM.Even with the block heater on all night. I am wondering if the block heater quit in the night as I couldn't hear it running and I usually can...Was too cold to mess with it until I get the batteries charged back upToni let it crank until they were dead as a stone.GGGRR One of her coworkers came and picked her upGuess I'll have to fire up the old M37 to go get her from work.Hope the old flathead will go with straight 30W oil in her.. MAN, IT'S COLD OUT!! Mike From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 17 12:59:35 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H7AO6-00016s-On for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:59:35 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so1829946uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr1515229buc.1169038486934; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.189.16 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:54:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:54:46 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Number of cylinders X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:59:35 - www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/tech_engine_packaging.htm On 1/17/07, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, VW does make a V5 engine, an earlier 2.3L 10v and a later 2.5L 20V DOHC version. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about the V5 engine configuration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V5_engine Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Good point-my 10F was in southern RI. Dwight andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Wickford, RI
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
14843 I couldn't help but notice that you didn't include your location. (: Levi On 1/17/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Good eye LeviI'm in Montour Falls, NY..Just over the hill, well actually over a few hills, from LeviDon't own a thermometer.It was cold. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather 14843 I couldn't help but notice that you didn't include your location. (: Levi On 1/17/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
uh, like you didn't? ;-) cheers! e high 30s last night, expecting 40s in Berkeley, CA... andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. [snippage]
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Washington, D.C., where we specialize in fully self-hoisting petards. On 1/17/07, ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uh, like you didn't? ;-) cheers! e high 30s last night, expecting 40s in Berkeley, CA... andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. [snippage] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather
Bellefonte PA 01-17-06 as of 6:00 AM was 17 degrees F - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Good point-my 10F was in southern RI. Dwight andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, as a practical matter, and because I'm a weather nut, please identify WHERE you live when discussing the cold temperatures. Andrew 24 degrees F. this AM, going into the high 30s. On 1/17/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, It's supposed to be closer to 25F this afternoon and I'm hoping to get out before dark so hoping I won't need the headlights, rear defroster nor as much for starting. I'll plug in the block heater so tomorrow's single digits hopefully won't be as bad, and if nothing else it gets a nice 45 minute charge about 4 times a week. The 15 minute drives are probably about 10 times a week, but normally they're not this cold and it's enough to get the temp up to 80C. Levi On 1/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER... Apparently when it gets down around 5F, I need to let OFF the fuel... My startup went like this: Glow light went off around 15 seconds. I started cranking around 25 seconds with the fuel to the floor. cranked for maybe 5-10 seconds (rather slowly) and it started to make some sounds of combustion, then started dying out again. I let it crank for maybe another 5 seconds. Decided to press my luck and try for another glow cycle. I think I let it go for like 30 seconds this time. Tried cranking again with the pedal floored and again it slighty sounded like it was going to start, then started dying again. So I took my foot off the fuel and after a couple seconds it started coming to life. It was about half running with the starter still helping for a few seconds while I tried to feed in just enough fuel to keep it running. I continue to be impressed with the 200D's cold-starting ability. It must have _very_ good compression. Even at its worst it has started very easily in comparison. I'm sure the POS battery is its weakest link right now. There's no doubt the car has a no-start temperature, and that we've been pretty close to it here lately, but so far, so good... This car exhibits none of the coughing and puking of the SDL when cold-starting, and that car lives in a semi-warm garage. (It probably has air-leaky IP seals.) Of course, at home I use the block heater a lot. No sense making it any harder than I have to to start. I'm just hoping I got enough charge back in the battery on my 15 minute trip to work with the defrosters and headlights and what not on. 'Enough'? Perhaps, but certainly you didn't get a full charge back in in only that time. Not with what it sounds like you took out. Get in some longer drives, or invest in a small battery charger for occasional overnight refreshment. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold weather paranoia
Jim Cathey wrote: On the Unimog it's a lot easier, since you can sit in the driver's seat and point the gun at the air intake snorkel. It's metal, too, so the heat gun is unlikely to do any damage even if mishandled. This'd be a lot harder on a car where, if alone, you'd have to hang the thing on the front by itself. Maybe it'd work if you had a remote starter switch. ;)
Re: [MBZ] cold weather paranoia
On the 115, just hook it to the air filter and have it run all the time On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Anyway as Jim Cathey is fond of mentioning you could take a hairdryer or heat gun and shoot it in the intake. That'll get you going pretty easy. On the Unimog it's a lot easier, since you can sit in the driver's seat and point the gun at the air intake snorkel. It's metal, too, so the heat gun is unlikely to do any damage even if mishandled. This'd be a lot harder on a car where, if alone, you'd have to hang the thing on the front by itself. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
Curt, I see, I see very thoughful with the Marine Battery. You doing that is truely love. I travel allot in sales and some times I stay at hotels in the Northeast, New England/Upstate NY area. When I check into a hotel, I ask for the spot for the handicapped car which translates into I need an outdoor 110 volt plug for my 1977 300D and my 100 foot extention cord. I find myself always looking where there are 110 volt outdoor plug ins near parking lots and other areas as I travel. Funny how that goes Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go Nope, I use the marine battery to power the block heater. Technically I use the battery to power an inverter to power the heater but you get the idea. 3rd floor walkup, my apartment is on the other side of the building. We're looking to buy a condo with parking lot exposure so I don't have to do this any more. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:10 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt said To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 29 04:08:15 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.195]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Egwmr-Rb-VW for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:08:14 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so2775500wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:08:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UfiMQbfBZDwCT2pK05E62J9KC0xmYYRTbAtzexJkPwEEXR3AR3reDHYCqNUW2CFPvxc5up/VtqJx+7bTMBwtcZ2o3SEryyt5f3l1KVs6hMeXAj72RhZzdVkn4g1cPE3tR9zGbKknb8UCkE2rH+9WDHgfFxoqRaNpCjw0dkLrT7wReceived: by 10.70.54.16 with SMTP id c16mr6096645wxa; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.124.6 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:08:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:08:11 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices in Midwest X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:08:15 - Yup! On 11/28/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta move south. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Bob Rentfro wrote: We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Mercedes recommends that as soon as the oil pressure pegs, it's best for the engine to start driving (DON'T push it hard until temps come into the normal range). It will come up to temp most quickly (3-5 min) with a modest load on the engine and that will keep engine wear to a minimum. AT idle it may take 10-15 minutes for the engine to come to temp and that could double the engine wear or worse. Idling also cokes injectors, but this is a less important issue - especially if you do some highway driving shortly after. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Hmm, starting a nuke is that easy then? How much oil do them things take? What kind do you use? How long it last, what with neutron bombardment and all that? --R Bob Rentfro wrote: We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure
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Bob Rentfro wrote: We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting I'm in the drive away as soon as you have oil pressure, but don't stomp on it until temp stabilizes camp.
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Hi Bob, Interestingly on my 240D anyway as soon as you turn the key to on the temp needle comes off the cold peg If its very cold, like below 0F I'll use the block heater. To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. So after the car is started I'll let it idle while I hike the battery back upstairs and put it on the charger. Then I'll usually have another cup of coffee before heading to work. Marshall's contention about not letting the car idle is mostly because of carbon build up. Since I have a 80 mile roundtrip highway commute I'm not real worried about carbon buildup. One time 2 winters ago the glowplugs on Hammie failed so I left him running at work all day. (it was 10F, he'd never have started without glowplugs) -Curt '83 240D Hammie 248kmi Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:07:44 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 29 15:31:33 2005 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.211]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eh7S9-0001Hm-Mq for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:31:33 + Received: from lono2.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id 20051129153129m91003fe2ne; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:31:29 + Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.7.2]); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:31:29 -0600 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:21:32 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Hey you rural Okies and Iowans X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:31:33 - Its only an opportunity if you are an established utility. I am all too familiar with Prairie Inet, and with the lack of availability in rural areas. Prairie inet only started to set up on the relatively flat areas of north central Iowa. Most of the state has rolling hills and is not suited to wireless, unless the wireless nodes were supported by a wired backbone. But still, the wired infrastructure is not there. Qwest has no plans to upgrade wiring or switches anywhere that I know of, other than in cities. Even in cities Qwest is famous for delivering only 1/4 or less of the bandwidth they charge for. The wired problem is compounded by people abandoning the wired phones and using cell phones only. There is a huge opportunity for verizon and US cellular to provide cheap wireless internet. The big difference was that in 1936, there was a farmhouse on every 40. Now one farm consists of 25-50 or more 40s. The population is not as dense as it was at the time of rural electrification. At 08:34 AM 11/29/2005, you wrote: Here is your next new business oppty --R http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/29/technology/29broad.html Money Is There to Aid Rural Internet, but Loans Are Hard to Get By VIKAS BAJAJ DALLAS CENTER, Iowa - Daniel and Linda Hawkins expected to lose some amenities when they moved to this small farming town, population 1,759, from a slightly larger city nearby. But they were so sure they would have high-speed Internet access that they had high-capacity wiring installed in every room in the house
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Here's my $.02 if you want it. Let your car warm up for 5 minutes or so in the warm weather and 10 minutes in the really cold stuff. Just because the oil pressure guage shows pressure it doesn't always mean EVERYTHING in the engine is oiled yet. My best friends father used to do a demonstration with an old Chevy 250 inline 6. He would remove te rocker cover and tell someone to start the car and watch the manual oil pressure gauge he had under the hood. The gauge would go up after only a few seconds signifying oil pressure.BUTThe rockers were still not getting oil.Took some of them a good minute and a half to pump up the lifters and get the whole engine oiling properly. My other logic is that different metals expand and contract differently depending on temp as well. The engine was designed to run at it's proper operating temperature and therefore I would assume that putting the engine under load at the improper temperature would also mean that many of the bearings and such are not to thier proper clearances therefore causing undue wear. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Curt said To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go Hi Bob, Interestingly on my 240D anyway as soon as you turn the key to on the temp needle comes off the cold peg If its very cold, like below 0F I'll use the block heater. To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. So after the car is started I'll let it idle while I hike the battery back upstairs and put it on the charger. Then I'll usually have another cup of coffee before heading to work. Marshall's contention about not letting the car idle is mostly because of carbon build up. Since I have a 80 mile roundtrip highway commute I'm not real worried about carbon buildup. One time 2 winters ago the glowplugs on Hammie failed so I left him running at work all day. (it was 10F, he'd never have started without glowplugs) -Curt '83 240D Hammie 248kmi Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:07:44 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Nope, I use the marine battery to power the block heater. Technically I use the battery to power an inverter to power the heater but you get the idea. 3rd floor walkup, my apartment is on the other side of the building. We're looking to buy a condo with parking lot exposure so I don't have to do this any more. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:10 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt said To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 29 23:35:12 2005 Received: from ms-smtp-04-lbl.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.103] helo=ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhF0C-0003sc-Pf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:35:12 + Received: from computer (cpe-066-057-051-190.nc.res.rr.com [66.57.51.190]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id jATNZ01u009855 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:20:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] GM/What? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:35:13 - I also watched GM ruin the diesel market in N America. Wilton 80 240D totaled at 15 yrs and 185kmi 81 300D sold at 24 yrs and 170kmi 91 350SDL 181kmi 87 300D showroom cond. at 94kmi
