Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Last I knew electrolux owned the whirly pool. Nope. Separate conglomerates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool_Corporation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolux Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yep, back then they were good and not outrageous priced.   Even in the 70s they were pricy, but good. Craig via Mercedes November 20, 2019 at 2:57 PM On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:20:20 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes The mainstay of my toolbox is the Craftsman tools I

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Snears was in a downward spiral 50 years ago.  The gravity pulled it down faster the lower it went.   no tears.   It was self inflicted. Crapsman hand tools were the last bastion of kwality at snears, until maybe 20 years ago. G Mann via Mercedes November 20,

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:20:20 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Craftsman tool company had an exclusive contract with Sears Sears is > now an invisible company... the mighty giant retail company is kaput... > So, Craftsman tools is apparently seeking new outlets and markets. > To[o] bad,

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes and Costco

2019-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Costco have this set on sale until tomorrow, I got one similar a coupla years ago, it is a nice set to carry in the car, tools are pretty well made.  I might get another one, $80 is a decent price.  I guess they are all chinesium but they work pretty well.

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Craftsman tool company had an exclusive contract with Sears Sears is now an invisible company... the mighty giant retail company is kaput... So, Craftsman tools is apparently seeking new outlets and markets. To bad, their reputation for quality is no longer earned.. they were good. On Tue,

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No, he lives in a swamp. Nobody does any work there.   The giant sucking sound is all the swamp dwellers sucking money out of your pocket. Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/19/19 11:14 AM: What! Do you live under a rock! ___

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
but I don't know who bought stanley and resurrected it.   So far crapsman is in napa, Ace and lowes.   Whoever bought crapsman, they are getting it in retail spots, but so far nothing done to improve quality or reputation. (or price) I'll stick with HF, thanks. Craig via Mercedes wrote on

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Oct 24, 2017 Stanley Black & Decker has chosen Lowe's as the next retail destination for its Craftsman brand, which it bought from Sears Holdings earlier this year. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/stanley-black-and-decker-taps-lowes-to-sell-the-craftsman-tool-brand.html With Stanley Black &

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
What! Do you live under a rock! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I never knew about HF stores. I will go have a look. > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 12:07 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I'm more impressed with Harbor Freight

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
According to Wikipedia, "In March 2017, Stanley Black & Decker acquired the Craftsman brand from Sears Holdings, which retained a limited license for Craftsman products[1] . Sears maintains the right to manufacture and sell tools

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I never knew about HF stores. I will go have a look. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 12:07 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I'm more impressed with Harbor Freight all the time. Bought a 1/2 inch > torque wrench from them... less than $14 tested it for calibration and > it was within 3% .. used it is

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I'm more impressed with Harbor Freight all the time. Bought a 1/2 inch torque wrench from them... less than $14 tested it for calibration and it was within 3% .. used it is for a year on wheel lugs and a few other projects... then it failed internally. Walked into the local Harbor Freight

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have never had one fail in the last decade or more. The first crappy ones they used to have I had a few of those fail. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have purchased one HF ratchet, a stubby 3/8” drive that was one of their > “high

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
better than trying to fix a crapsman rachet, or trying to get snappy to warrant one of theirs.   I have a pile of snappy's stuff they need to exchange, but the last time I tracked down snappy, he wouldn't warrent anything.   Claimed he didn't have a replacement for any. Curt Raymond via

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I have purchased one HF ratchet, a stubby 3/8” drive that was one of their “high end” or more expensive models. It lasted maybe six months, used possibly 10-12 times, none of which stressed it significantly, it was used to spin off fasteners in areas with limited space, like the top bolt on

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I put Mobil 1 wheel bearing grease, the pink stuff, into one. Worked surprisingly well. The teeth on that one we're good, it just didn't ratchet. I cleaned and lubed it and it was back to work... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
HF wrenches are great, better fit and finish than Craftsman for half the money. When I did the brakes on the Jetta a few weeks ago I bought my first HF ratchet. Flex head, fine tooth. It works well and didn't break with a 3' cheater on it. Time will tell how it lasts but for $9 I'm pleased.

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
BTW, sometimes just cleaning and lubing ratchets fixes the skipping and jamming! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks like there are all kinds of them on eBay. I’ve got to check model > numbers and get some ordered. I need a 3/8 and

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
And use permatex 81950 aka RLL (red lube of love) in those craftsman RHFT ratchets: https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/permatex-engine-assembly-lube-4-oz-81950/12028851-p?c3ch=PLA=12028851-P=pla_with_promotion_channel=online_code==aw.ds&=EAIaIQobChMIx7KB4tXy5QIVC2yGCh2HdgQfEAQYASABEgIPv_D_BwE

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Friend of mine has the looong version (18-20") of this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174062074481 Needs rebuilding. He tried to get it fixed about 20 years ago and the guy at Sears just wanted to swap it out for a short one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I got a lot of great Inside Track deals in the 1980s and 1990s, many of them on actual name brand items like Blackhawk jack stands. I don't recall why I dropped it about 25 years ago. I thought Stanley bought Craftsman a few years ago and was recently making moves to return production to USA.

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like there are all kinds of them on eBay. I’ve got to check model numbers and get some ordered. I need a 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet rebuilt. My just buy a 1/2” kit while I’m at it to have one on hand. -D > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Still scrap if

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-392580.html Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Still scrap if the rachet is broken. Unless someone has a source for the > rachet repair kits... > > A working crappy cheep chinee

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for the rachet repair kits... A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman non-racheting paperweight. Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM: Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
These are considered the 240D of ratchets. Very tough! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yup, that’s one of mine. They’re all round head ratchets. Guess now I need to > look for rebuild kits… > > -D > > >> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:19 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup, that’s one of mine. They’re all round head ratchets. Guess now I need to look for rebuild kits… -D > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you > look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable! Here is an

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I just googled this and it seems that the (Lowe’s) stores are misinformed. Corporate says they’ll honor “all lifetime warranties no matter where the Craftsman tool was purchased.” https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/will-lowes-honor-craftsman-lifetime-warranties Guess I’m

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many of which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn out right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or

Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.    They have not warranted a tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x list price. Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows

[MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

2019-11-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their Inside Track Club. Is this worth it? I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools. They had all kinds of tools, which looked like