Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-23 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/21/06 3:59 PM, David Brodbeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: When I say eating, I mean that for how the fuel gauge drops, I should be smelling a massive leak somewhere, but no such luck. Dumb question: Are you sure the gauge is correct? Diesel sludge accumulates

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-23 Thread LarryT
://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616 on 6/21/06 3:59 PM, David Brodbeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/21/06 10:19 AM, LarryT at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you say it's eating fuel I assume you mean it's getting poor fuel mileage? It's been my experience on my '78 240D is it gets 24-26mpg - and this is with a perfect engine. The engine was rebuilt 30k miles ago and everything was

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/20/06 4:05 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Is it possible for IP timing to test out okay at rest, in a static (drip) test, but be off under running conditions? Only if the timer is bad. If it's bad, it needs to be REPLACED. Do you have a reference for that procedure

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/21/2006 8:24:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you say it's eating fuel I assume you mean it's getting poor fuel mileage? It's been my experience on my '78 240D is it gets 24-26mpg - and this is with a perfect engine. The engine

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Steve MacSween
on 6/21/06 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't put too much stock in the PO's comment that the IP timing is dead on. He may have overlooked a step, or his interpretation of the beginning of stroke was flawed. Do it yourself. Didn't you adjust your valves

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:22:54AM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote: What I mean is using nearly quarter of a tank of fuel for 3-4 hours idling time. Actually it probably uses more at idle (when it still has the miss) than on the road. If it uses massively more at idle than when on the throttle,

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do it yourself. Didn't you adjust your valves yourself? Also, check timing chain stretch. The 616 requires manual oil additions to the injection pump. A low oil level could be causing problems with the governor and rack. I don't think

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: When I say eating, I mean that for how the fuel gauge drops, I should be smelling a massive leak somewhere, but no such luck. Dumb question: Are you sure the gauge is correct? Diesel sludge accumulates on the sender and produces all kinds of bizarre behavior.

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-21 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: on 6/20/06 4:05 PM, Marshall Booth at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Is it possible for IP timing to test out okay at rest, in a static (drip) test, but be off under running conditions? Only if the timer is bad. If it's bad, it needs to be REPLACED. Do you have a

[MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-20 Thread Steve MacSween
Back to my sick 240d... which I am pleased to say continues to recover by degrees, but I'm not making any success announcements yet. I drive it for an hour every day. The smoking problem is just about finished. In fact, I am increasingly of a mind that what I had/have here, was two problems.

Re: [MBZ] Injection pump timing OM616

2006-06-20 Thread Peter Frederick
You must check the timing chain for wear (stretch) and verify the injection timing. If the chain is worn, pull a new one in and re-check the timing, it will be faster with a new chain. Timing is adjusted by loosening the three bolts or nuts holding the pump in place and rotating it -- toward