Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

An Intel Mac is an Intel PC. While Apple has added some customization to
the ROM with the EFI, it is still the base reference Intel EFI underneath.
As long as the GRUB you are using has the support for EFI in it you should
be able to boot. Also, GPT disks are usually a thing in the Apple world,
but I've got standard MBR disks to boot in my Mini. As I said in an earlier
post, though, I've had to install the Linux OS on a straight IBM PC and
transplant the disk.The Intel EFI will recognize the MBR and attempt to
boot it. Ran CentOS 6 on Mini for a while this way.

However, the Apple bit in the EFI is looking for GPT stuff, so *sometimes*
the Live CDs don't boot completely, or can't see the MBR disk once booted
because the Apple portion of the BIOS ROM didn't pass off the HDD as
available because it wasn't GPT. I haven't looked at it real low level or
anything, so I'm not 100% sure where the hiccups start happening. I just
know that I was jaw dropped surprised when I took a disk from a failed
CentOS 6 laptop and dropped into the Mini with a dead HDD that I looked
away to find a disk to boot Mac OS X with and came back to my login prompt
on CentOS 6.

I've used the workaround / trick a couple times since.

EdB

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Puppy is a good, lightweight distro, I've used it a lot as a portable OS
> on a USB drive. Sadly Mac won't support that, or I've never gotten it to
> work anyway.
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Puppy is a good, lightweight distro, I've used it a lot as a portable OS on a 
USB drive. Sadly Mac won't support that, or I've never gotten it to work anyway.
Curt

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  On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey via 
Mercedes wrote:   What about Puppy linux?  Myself I'd 
use OSX 10.whatever on it.  It's Unix
enough that way.

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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

What about Puppy linux?  Myself I'd use OSX 10.whatever on it.  It's Unix
enough that way.

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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Curley,

Are you sure it is a Core 2? The spec list I'm looking at lists the
processor for a MacBook 1,1 as a Core Duo 1.83 13". That also explains the
2GB RAM cap, the Core Duo's were 32-Bit processors. Technically if you
could get the motherboard to recognize the DIMM it should be able to
address up to 3GB, but there is also the limitation of the 32-Bit EFI BIOS.

So, linux wise, you may want to go as lightweight as possible. Usually I
recommend Elementary OS because it is very Mac like in usage. But it is
also a bit graphics heavy so you might get annoyed with some of the
slowness. A very large amount of the distros today are based around the
Ubuntu base image, which is itself based on Debian. Debian has always had a
huge following. The other major distro would be the RPM style, Fedora
based. CentOS, Red Hat and the like. Someone else mentioned Mint, it is
also an Ubuntu based lightweight distro so would be another good choice.

Though I think you'd probably want to look at something like Lubuntu. It
runs LXDE as the desktop, so doesn't give a lot of the graphics heavy stuff
most new OSes seem to like. It has minimum specs of a P4 and 1GB of RAM, so
will run on the MacBook hardware.

I'll tell you though, I have not had much luck installing Linux directly on
Apple hardware for some reason. Always seem to get a hiccup, so your
mileage may vary. However, I have had luck installing Linux on a more IBM
styled PC system, getting GRUB loaded, yanking the disk and dropping back
in the Mac and watching it boot. Which is really wild, so if you try to
install direct and run into a lot of headaches, maybe do the initial
install on a IBM PC system and see if that works.

EdB

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with recent
> HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even $100 on
> the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of linux on it?
> What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or Looey Don question.
>
> In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or can
> be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
> It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop
> computer or some such.
>
> I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was still
> free.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I only considered doing this so I could use my HTPC (now with W10) and my WD
NAS to run Silicondust HDHomerun DVR software and hardware. The NAS is
connected to the HDHomerun tuner device with cable card. It records directly
to the NAS utilizing the NAS OS. The playback software on the HTPC accesses
the recordings and sets up future recordings. It can also play live video
from the tuner.

It works quite well.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

Yes

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Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

Did you mean "upgrade from w7"?  ;)  

Freudian slip, me thinks...
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On March 18, 2017 3:39:32 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:
>W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive 
>technologies".
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
>Curley McLain via Mercedes
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:38 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Curley McLain
>Subject: [MBZ] Macbook linux?
>
>I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with 
>recent HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even
>$100 on the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of 
>linux on it?  What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or 
>Looey Don question.
>
>In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or 
>can be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
>It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop 
>computer or some such.
>
>I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was 
>still free.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes

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Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

Did you mean "upgrade from w7"?  ;)  

Freudian slip, me thinks...
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On March 18, 2017 3:39:32 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:
>W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive 
>technologies".
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
>Curley McLain via Mercedes
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:38 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Curley McLain
>Subject: [MBZ] Macbook linux?
>
>I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with 
>recent HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even
>$100 on the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of 
>linux on it?  What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or 
>Looey Don question.
>
>In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or 
>can be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
>It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop 
>computer or some such.
>
>I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was 
>still free.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I was thinking he meant 7 was an upgrade from 10.  Long live XP/2000


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
March 18, 2017 at 4:36 PM
Did you mean "upgrade from w7"? ;)

Freudian slip, me thinks...
Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM
W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive
technologies".

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I don't have winders 10 on it to upgrade to 7.  (or vice versa)


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM
W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive
technologies".

Greg



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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Did you mean "upgrade from w7"?  ;)  

Freudian slip, me thinks...
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 18, 2017 3:39:32 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive
>technologies". 
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>Curley
>McLain via Mercedes
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:38 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Curley McLain
>Subject: [MBZ] Macbook linux?
>
>I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with
>recent HD
>and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even
>$100 on the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of
>linux
>on it?  What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or Looey
>Don
>question.
>
>In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or
>can
>be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
>It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop
>computer
>or some such.
>
>I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was
>still
>free.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

W10 is still a free upgrade to W7 if you tell them you use "assistive
technologies". 

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 10:38 PM
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Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with recent HD
and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even
$100 on the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of linux
on it?  What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or Looey Don
question.

In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or can
be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?

It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop computer
or some such.

I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was still
free.

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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

it has 2 Gb and is max, according to the book.  I don't know if there is 
a hack.


Someone on fleabay is advertising one with el crap running.  Dunno how 
dey do dat.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
March 18, 2017 at 9:56 AM
I didn't think the C2's would go that high, and I know they don't take as
much RAM. Our oldest MBP is a C2D that can only hold 6G of RAM. Friends
have one that can only hold 2G. They were sorely disappointed.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I was going to suggest Mint also. But I think there are some other small
distros of ubuntu eg kubuntu etc that would do the basics pretty well.

On Mar 17, 2017 11:01 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Mint or Ubuntu.
>
> Rick
>   Original Message
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> Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of
> linux on it? What flavor would you guys recommend? Sort of a Ed B or
> Looey Don question.‎
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I didn't think the C2's would go that high, and I know they don't take as
much RAM.  Our oldest MBP is a C2D that can only hold 6G of RAM.  Friends
have one that can only hold 2G.  They were sorely disappointed.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Mint or Ubuntu.

Rick
  Original Message  
From Curly ‎

Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of
linux on it? What flavor would you guys recommend? Sort of a Ed B or 
Looey Don question.‎
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[MBZ] Macbook linux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with 
recent HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even 
$100 on the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of 
linux on it?  What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or 
Looey Don question.


In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or 
can be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?


It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop 
computer or some such.


I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was still 
free.


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