Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-03 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, I must have been misusing the term viscosity. Hope y'all still got the jist of my message. Brian On 10/1/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is that it DOESN'T change viscosity! Peter On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:55 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm not disturbed by that at

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread John W. Reames III
I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? I would not run it in ANY MB of any kind. none of the M1 xW-30's (0,5,10) carry ANY MB approvals due to insufficient high-temperature shear strength.

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread LT Don
John: I think the Mobil 1 brand 0-W-40 is on the MB approved list for diesels. Personally, I stick with the 15-W-50 stuff. I would not run it in ANY MB of any kind. none of the M1 xW-30's (0,5,10) carry ANY MB approvals due to insufficient high-temperature shear strength. The 0W-40 DOES

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Bill Gallagher
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_0W-40.aspx See the source for info Bill 1981 300 TD LT Don wrote: John: I think the Mobil 1 brand 0-W-40 is on the MB approved list for diesels. Personally, I stick with the 15-W-50 stuff. I would not run it in ANY MB of any

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Gary Hurst
it's a 40 weight oil when cold that become a zero weight oil when cold? do you see something disturbing about this logic? On 9/30/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too, had shared this concern, until I read somewhere that the higher number is the real viscosity, and the lower number is

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm not disturbed by that at all, in fact I love it. How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is in the balance, this chemical wonder that is an oil switching viscosities based on temperature has long

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Zoltan wrote: How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? You can't *smile* You have to trust the oil company. Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is in the balance, this chemical wonder that is an oil switching

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Gary Hurst wrote: it's a 40 weight oil when cold that become a zero weight oil when cold? Not exactly. It doesn't get thinner as it gets colder, as you'd expect from that description. It has the viscosity that a straight 40 weight oil would at operating temperature, and the viscosity that

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Fmiser wrote: If you expect to have to start your engine at temps near 0F (-20 C), then the 0W-40 can give let you reliable start the engine at temps 10 deg F (5 deg C) colder than 15W-40. It *may* also decrease start-up wear. Thick oil takes longer to pump to the bearings, and especially up

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hmmm. Well my faith has been re-restored in 0W oil. If I can do anything to tilt the odds in my favor of having a relatively easy start on those single-digit or below mornings, I'm for it. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 On 10/1/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fmiser wrote: If you

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread ts
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30 http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_0W-40.aspx See the source for info Bill 1981 300 TD LT Don wrote: John: I think the Mobil 1 brand 0-W-40 is on the MB approved list for diesels. Personally

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
No, not al all -- it means the viscosity does not change all that much! Synthetics don't lose viscosity when hot nearly as much as dino oils do (10 wt oil at 300F pours like diesel fuel, and has about the same lubricating capacities, I believe!), while 40 or 50 wt dino oil at zero F has to be

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
The point is that it DOESN'T change viscosity! Peter On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:55 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm not disturbed by that at all, in fact I love it. How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is

[MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread LT Don
And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell the car for practical reasons next spring, ... -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
The Med City: Rochester, MN. Have an interest in getting your Saab on? Brian On 9/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? Though I'm probably going to have to sell

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread LT Don
Yes ... if we are talking Kleb prices. On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Med City: Rochester, MN. Have an interest in getting your Saab on? Brian On 9/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you are located where? On 9/29/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? I would not put Xw-30 in any of my MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Allright, thanks Mitch. 'preciate the tip. Brian On 9/30/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't strain a brisket - I'm not trying to start an oil thread. But here's my question: I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-09-30 Thread OK Don
I, too, had shared this concern, until I read somewhere that the higher number is the real viscosity, and the lower number is how the oil reacts in cold temperatures. That is, a 0W40 oil is a 40 wt. oil, that maintains a viscosity similar to a 0 wt. oil at 0 degrees C., or something like that --