I actually saw hands hanging in the town square when I worked in Saudi
Arabia. They evidently believed in advertising their punishments. A
gruesome and often effective persuasion method. Of course, the fact
that there were multiple hands shows not everyone was as impressed as I
was ...;-)
You project an admiration for the Saudi approach to justice. Does this
tempt you to to move to Riyadh? Perhaps you could consult and perusade
them to sever/display noses or other parts of the human anatomy in a never
ending quest to deter crime...
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Larry T
Tax laws are made by Congress. Some point to consider are that flat tax
rates such as sales taxes are regressive and hurt the poor. Taxes that
make everyone pay the same overall percentage of income are preferred but
tricky.
For example, the per gallon gas tax is the same for someone living on
PM
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IMO the progressive tax code should be illegal. Just because someone
is wealthy is no reason to tax them at a higher rate. Actually the tax
codes as sold to the public just before 1916 was said to only apply
On 05/05/2013 7:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other
places.
Dan
NO! A VAT is insidious. VAT is added every time a raw material, part
or component is handled. A flat tax on income is direct and
understandable. A tax on retail sales
Randy, you're sounding very American. Welcome aboard. ;)
Wilton
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On 05/05/2013 7:15 PM
IMO the progressive tax code should be illegal. Just because someone
is wealthy is no reason to tax them at a higher rate. Actually the tax
codes as sold to the public just before 1916 was said to only apply
to the very wealthy. You can see how long that lasted. It's always
easier to
On Sun, 05 May 2013 18:12:02 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
Just because the wealthy have more money doesn't mean they should spend
more on the government and all the stupid things they like to spend our
taxes on.
With the same tax rate for all, the wealthy WILL spend more money
Yep. I'm all for a national sales tax but only *_IF _*the 16th amendment
is repealed. If not, sure as i love my MB, we'd soon be taxed both with
a sales and income tax. I can hear it now, We need to do it for the
children. or just as likely We need to pass this bill to find out
what's in
It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other places.
Dan
On May 5, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Larry T wrote:
Yep. I'm all for a national sales tax but only *_IF _*the 16th amendment is
repealed. If not, sure as i love my MB, we'd soon be taxed both with a sales
and income
The tax situation in this country (and others too I am sure) is so
muddled as to be completely impossible to decipher.
LarryT
THAT IS NO ACCIDENT. IT IS BY INTENT.
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It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other places.
Dan
NO! A VAT is insidious. VAT is added every time a raw material,
part or component is handled. A flat tax on income is direct and
understandable. A tax on retail sales is also direct and
understandable.
VAT
It's called a GST here, which stands for Grab Take Snatch.
It's not the only reason why parts are more expensive here, the reason
is volume, shipping costs and competition.
Hendrik
who is a collector of GST and needs to do his 1/4ly BAS
On 06/05/13 09:45, Dieselhead wrote:
It's called a value
a BIG part I suspect! the only thing worse than the USA's 60,000 page
(or whatever) tax code is europe's VAT! Value Added my butt! the only
perceived value is the govt's taking the peasants money! and its all in
favor of the govt. -- dieselhead described it perfectly!
the govt is
a BIG part I suspect! the only thing worse than the USA's 60,000
page (or whatever) tax code is europe's VAT! Value Added my butt!
the only perceived value is the govt's taking the peasants money!
and its all in favor of the govt. -- dieselhead described it
perfectly!
the govt is
Ah, yes. Are you proposing that we impose Shariah law???
However, we voted those theives into office --- who's to blame???
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Time to cut off their hands (or is it noses in Larry's example?) There is
historical precedent for
Ah, yes. Are you proposing that we impose s_ law???
However, we voted those theives into office --- who's to blame???
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Time to cut off their hands (or is it noses in Larry's example?) There is
historical precedent
Good for you!
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On May 3, 2013, at 2:37 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
We the People in Arizona forced the speed cameras to be removed. Rampant
fraud was part of the reason. The other part was the loss of Constitutional
Right to face our accuser.
Vote early Vote
No. That sounds like communism.
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On May 3, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a
progressive tax code, rather than burdening those who can least afford to
pay these fines, as a
meadedil...@bellsouth.net
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No. Those of us outside the beltway and who have been taught critical
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
No. That sounds like communism.
It sounds like the lie used to sell Communism to the masses.
The more power government has, the more it will be used by those wielding the
power to enrich those wielding the power.
Mitch.
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Yes, we called 'em slides, too; 'had burlap from fertilizer bags on both
side and ends. During winter, my dad and brothers would cut the wood for
heating the curing barns. I remember at 5
Yep.
Wilton
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... but they gave me a strong sense of integrity, determination
Enforcing speeding laws would be IL's ticket out of debt. Interstate
speed limits are 55mph while everyone goes at least 70-85. Imagine the
revenue they could generate.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)
On 5/3/2013 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Sorry!
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a
progressive tax code, rather than burdening those who can least afford to
pay these fines, as a means of shouldering the cost of governing.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
Enforcing
We the People in Arizona forced the speed cameras to be removed. Rampant
fraud was part of the reason. The other part was the loss of Constitutional
Right to face our accuser.
Vote early Vote often.. it can work.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
Why not enforce the laws that are already on the books instead of
wasting time making new ones?
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)
On 5/3/2013 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a
progressive tax code,
Maybe there is a need to change? Maybe the old laws have outlived their
relevance or usefulness. Maybe there is a new problem that needs to be
addressed. Lots of reasons.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
Why not enforce the laws that are already on the
Those who can least afford to pay fines, should be among the most
careful drivers in order to avoid having to pay the fines.
Randy
On 03/05/2013 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a
progressive tax code, rather than burdening
We are working on it in Florida. There is a guy over in St. Pete who has done a
fantastic job refuting all the government claims about their advantages, yet
they still voted them in against the wishes of their constituents.
A local DA has received something like 4-5 red light camera tickets and
Speed trap: I-81 Wytheville, VA.
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Enforcing speeding laws would be IL's ticket out of debt.
Interstate speed limits are 55mph while everyone goes at least
70-85. Imagine the revenue they could generate.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)
Its IL. THey money would never make it to the state
No. Those of us outside the beltway and who have been taught critical thinking
call that income redistribution aka stealing. Done in the name of government
doesn't change the morality of it.
Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through
What is the basis of the implied assumption that the rich (generally
understood to mean anyone with more than me) should not have the same
Constitutional protections as the poor?
Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a
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What is the basis of the implied assumption that the rich (generally
understood to mean anyone with more than me) should
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Relative measure of wealth reminds me: When I was a boy on tobacco farms in
Nash County, NC, my measure of a rich farmer was his tobacco trucks - the
little mule-drawn trucks that hauled the tobacco leaves from the fields
I am not sure about how best to deal with the poverty stricken and cost of life.
#1 boy was planning on using the E300 to get to his job. At the time of offer,
it was for graveyard shift unloading either trailer (Target) or airplane
(Fedex). He would be able to return home with the car so
: Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
In Vance Co., NC, those tobacco trucks are called slides. I still have
a
tobacco curing barn in good shape which I modified (by adding a six-foot
wide door) to hold yard equipment. When this old tobacco farm was active
it
was just as you describe. I still
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:14 PM
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Yes, we called 'em slides, too; 'had burlap from fertilizer bags on both
side and ends. During winter
Wilton
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In Vance Co., NC, those tobacco trucks are called slides. I still have a
tobacco
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