Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power consumption. If it's a beater, I understand, but if you're going to keep it for a while and it gets used regularly an SSD is a good investment. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista? Win 7? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 8:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is the increase in battery life you get due to the

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
i would not get anything other than an SSD drive on any machine that i was looking to upgrade if the OS will be on that upgraded drive On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it Dan, Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista? Win 7? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 8:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
as I have a pair of 500GB drives for data. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it Dan, Would

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it Thanks Gary and Curt, now I need to find a source for a drive that will fit

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Send me a 1TB please --R On 9/2/14 11:27 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: i would not get anything other than an SSD drive on any machine that i was looking to upgrade if the OS will be on that upgraded drive ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it Dan, Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista? Win 7? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 8:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So after an hour at the apple store and various incantations and application of Black Arts, the genii determined that the hard drive was going bad (wait, wait, I am detecting an incipient failure in the AE-435 unit...) and the software update probably stressed it enough to pretty much make it

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Looks like a Tosh or Seagate hybrid might be the way to go http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149489 --R On 9/1/14 4:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: So after an hour at

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would avoid a hybrid drive, as they have had issues. Go with an SSD if you can deal with the lesser amount of space. It will make the machine scream. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Looks like a Tosh or Seagate

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I wondered about that, Rick Hawkins the macman suggests a basic 1TB Tosh, $60 from Amazon. I'll just go with that, cheap enough. --R On 9/1/14 6:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I would avoid a hybrid drive, as they have had issues. Go with an SSD if you can deal with the lesser

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
First question: What version of OSX does it have on it? MacDan On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I read in more detail and saw that you think you have OSX 10.8. If that is is the case, then you should have a recovery volume on the machine. reboot or start up while holding the Command + R keys down. Don't let up on it until you see some nard drive icons show up on the screen. These are

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
You can boot to single-user mode with Cmd-Opt-S (?), from there you can poke around disabling things, perhaps. Boot from a CD with C and something in the drive. That's the start-over option. If you have an OS install CD/DVD. Recovery disks are fairly machine-specific. I doubt an iMac disc is

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I tried almost everything and couldn't get past spinning wheels. Right now it appears to be doing an Internet Recovery cmd-alt-R on startup which worked to get some response, I had to plug it into the router as it was having problems connecting over wireless. It looks like it might be

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N --R On 8/23/14 9:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I tried almost everything and

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The status bar on the internet recovery is moving slowly, with an apparent timer that is bouncing around between 8something and now 4:58, which I guess is hours to download 4TB or something of OS N.N So there is something out there worse than Windows. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It's not the actual OS as much as all the junk attached to it. And no, it's NOT worse than Windows. Not enough OS left it if crashes to DO an internet restore, since it is still, so far as I can tell, running CPM-86 down in some dark basement through a thousand layers of interface

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The recovery utility is apparently in firmware somewhere somehow and you can wake it up with finger incantations that require something like the gang sign flashing thing. The problem appears to be an upgrade from OSX 10.8.4 to 10.8.5 which apparently crashed many many machines. I think this

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If she has iCloud and the Find my Mac feature turned on, don't sell it until you can remove the feature. Otherwise her iCloud account will be forever linked to the machine. Check Apple's support site about how to clean it off. Dan On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think I am going to keep it but I will take a look at that too. I am at a screen now Mac OS X Utilities that has a choice to Reinstall Mac OS X (new copy of Lion) which is not doing anything at the moment so i guess I will leave it for awhile and see if it does something. It has a Disk

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
After doing an Internet Recovery and that not working, then rebooting several times to try to get to the install where it would actually see my hard drive, I was able to do that after doing Disk Verify and Restore a couple of times on the main HD and the recovery? drive. Tried to install the

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on older (more than two years older than the OS) machines. Crappy support from Apple -- they really only want you to use a device for a year or two and buy another one, in spite of the fact that usually their hardware is very

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Now the machine has locked up with 1.90/5.32GB downloaded, looks like it gorked when the screen sleep or whatever kicked in. --R On 8/23/14 4:58 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Unfortunately, some security upgrades can cause serious issued on older (more than two years older than the OS)

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep. I have never been able to understand why both PC and Apple computers can go to sleep when a program is active in the foreground Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have tried rebooting, no go. Now trying to boot into the Recovery and Disk Utility just gives me GSOD. This thing is buggered good. wow. --R On 8/23/14 5:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Try again and make sure it's plugged in and set to never sleep. I have never been able to understand

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
This is why I keep a bootable disk around -- you can make a full copy of the OS onto a DVD or external drive using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner, and that way you can always at least boot the stinking thing and get on line. Do you have another Mac around and a Firewire cable? You

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I managed, again, to boot into recovery mode then was able to reboot from the recovery HD image, and it worked. I shut off the sleep and now it is downloading 10.9 Mavericks about 2/3 there. I am hoping this cures it. I hate their stupid names. It is funny, when it finally came alive

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When you're making that big of a jump between revs it's almost always best to do the delta updates rather then the combo or full updates. The combo updates are what they would be downloading to your machine from the App Store. You have to go to the OSX support Web site for each rev and

[MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My wife had this MBP sitting around she hadn't used for like 10 months (don't ask). Tonight I fired it up and was using it, it kept annoying me to do a software update, 10.8 something I think. So I did that, was like 2GB of something. Restarted and it just freezes, gray screen, spinning