I put the bathroom floor heaters in the remodel to the seattle house. SWMBA
loathed cold floors so the things were on for her comfort the first few years.
I found a few cold spots and thought the things gobbled heating dollars.
Probably did not, but I had no issue with a good cool floor
On Fri, August 14, 2020 4:37 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Our bathroom in the âMomolithâ (massive 4,000 SF house in
> Indianapolis we owned) had heated tile floors in the bathroom. Resistance
> elements laid on the floor decking before the tile was put down, I
> believe.
I believe in
Our bathroom in the “Momolith” (massive 4,000 SF house in Indianapolis we
owned) had heated tile floors in the bathroom. Resistance elements laid on the
floor decking before the tile was put down, I believe. At first I was reluctant
to use them, as I figured they would suck electricity. After I
Our house has original red oak from 1938 when it was built. The people we
hired to refinish it when we pulled up the carpet called them "narrow boards"
which was something I hadn't heard before.
I really like having hardwood floors, I also like having a woodstove in the
basement so the floors
But it’s beautiful and it can last for a few hundred years if cared for. That’s
the difference.
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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> We have Brazilian cherry flooring that is so hard that glasses and plates
> shatter when dropped on
I have zero tolerance for fake, made to look like the real thing ie, tile or
wood materials. It’s all trash in my eyes. Sorry.
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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its
But it’s ugly and cheap looking.
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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
>> time for kitchens and
Or maple or any other hardwood. Or if access to reclaimed old growth pine or
fir which are very hard.
Basically wood or stone or porcelain tile are the only materials that I’d ever
use on a floor. Carpet in very few exceptions. Everything else is pure trash.
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> On Aug 10,
We have Brazilian cherry flooring that is so hard that glasses and plates
shatter when dropped on it.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its
> amazing, looks just like
My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its
amazing, looks just like tile, if you had soft soled shoes on you probably
wouldn't know it wasn't tile. When you touch it its obvious.
Theirs is all one piece, makes cleanup a snap.
-Curt
On Thursday, August 13,
On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
> time for kitchens and bathrooms.
I'll admit it's nice when I drop a glass or plate and it bounces instead
of shattering.
I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
time for kitchens and bathrooms.
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If you are building a new house for yourself, bathrooms and laundry rooms..
kitchen sink areas, use marine grade 5 ply plywood... it is made to be
exposed to water and will hold up years longer than particle board flooring
underlayment.
Since the Kaleb rent house has a history of soft water
On Mon, August 10, 2020 10:10 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> When they installed the tile in this house when it was built they
> apparently installed it directly on the osb subfloor. As a result we have
> had tiles thru the entire house crack over the years.
It varies with tile size
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:28 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was accidentally
> allowed to stand. Not talking about a flood, just spills. It happens,
> don't think it won't, especially in kitchens and
I have (real) oak T in most of my house in the main living areas where there
isn’t tile (kitchen.) Bedrooms have carpet. Given the choice I wouldnt mess
with the engineered stuff unless it was a retrofit.
-D
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
Depending on what your house is worth, hardwood in living areas and a quality
tile in bathroom is standard for a higher end house. Carpet is nasty, tile
anywhere else but bathroom or mud room, or possibly kitchen is also cheap
looking.
That pergo stuff and laminate stuff is trash as well. But
Yes, my parent's house built in the 1960s has oak floors throughout
(except kitchen and utility rooms), and it's a basic ranch house in a
subdivision, dozens exactly like it in the neighborhood.
Allan
Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes:
> All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with
All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with the exception of the
bathroom and laundry room of course.) I used to do solid oak flooring as a side
gig many, many years ago. I knew a guy who did the finishing and we teamed up
to do floors as a side gig after work and on weekends. T
It still has to be specifically waterproof, Pergo or not. Maybe all
Pergo is waterproof these days. Back in about 1998 I had a continuous
kitchen/living room/entryway floor done in Pergo. Professionally
installed, glued seams, etc.
It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was
I don’t remember if we used pergo or a different brand in the kitchen nook but
after 3 years of their abuse it still looks perfect. If I were moving in myself
it would be no question but not sure on a house we are just going to sell in 3
years.
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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:02
They have waterproof versions
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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:24 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Kaleb wrote:
>
>> She wants to do the pergo thru the whole house that is currently
>> carpeted and in the utility and bathroom.
>
> Pergo isn't waterproof - right?
>
If I was doing laminate, and I have before, I would only use Pergo. Everything
else is junk. Yes, it’s expensive, but the old adage of “You get what you pay
for” definitely rings true with this stuff.
-D
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Real actual
Real actual Pergo brand laminate flooring is amazing. We looked at a house
where the pipes had frozen and leaked. The whole house stank, the ceiling fans
were drooping flowers, the paint was coming off the walls. The Pergo flooring
was absolutely perfect. It hadn't buckled or de-laminated,
We used non-waterproff laminate flooring when we bought this house
throughout the entire house. I glued the joints in the kitchen and both
baths with Weldwood III waterproof glue, thinking that it would protect the
flooring. A few months later the wife decided to fill a jacuzzi tube,
forgot it,
> Kaleb wrote:
> She wants to do the pergo thru the whole house that is currently
> carpeted and in the utility and bathroom.
Pergo isn't waterproof - right?
Using that in the bathroom and by the washing machine is as silly
as using carpet in those places. There _will_ be water on the
floor!
I am thinking of just going back in with carpet where carpet was, and using the
waterproof laminate in the utility and bathroom. Wife things that will be bad
because this is a higher end house and it had carpet, original tile in
master/utility/2nd bathroom, and formal dining room, pergo in
Saving any of that floor is a waste of time then, and at ~$50 per hour you
need to get the job done quickly. Tile work is probably worth a lot more
than $50 per hour, so material is very cheap compared to labor. In your
place, I'd do it once and do it right, rip it all up and slap down
You gotta clean the place up and sell that albatross. Use the time you free up
for something good, like fixing cars.
-Curt
On Monday, August 10, 2020, 10:12:00 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
wrote:
PS we have saved enough tiles without breaking them we might be able to get
away
PS we have saved enough tiles without breaking them we might be able to get
away with just pulling up some tiles in the bathroom and replace with tiles we
have on hand but I’m not really sure I want to deal with trying to do that.
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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Max Dillon
When they installed the tile in this house when it was built they apparently
installed it directly on the osb subfloor. As a result we have had tiles thru
the entire house crack over the years. Can’t find a match anymore so when we
had to pull up the flooring in the kitchen nook area we ended
I really doubt it will dry through the tile. Why not just remove the cracked
tiles and see what's up? If you find rot, you must keep removing tiles until
you find the edges of the rot.
Sounds like an inferior tile installation (should not crack unless severally
abused). Personally I think
As we discovered the toilet was leaking and soaked the area under the house
including the osb subfloor from the bottom. The flooring in the bathroom is
ceramic tile. It is mostly in good shape but does have a couple of cracked
tiles which have been that way for years. I am assuming that water
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