Re: [MBZ] Premium 16.9/gal

2022-07-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If this were true France - which is 71.6% nuclear - would have free electricity, or at worst selling at a 71% discount. ; On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 3:54 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I remember when nuclear power was in its infancy, and the motto was "too > cheap

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2022-07-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> I remember when nuclear power was in its infancy, and the motto was "too cheap to meter." Had nuclear energy been done correctly, it would've been. It's never going to happen in this country. We are probably heading into another "dark ages" or at least another end of "The Bronze Age". Rick

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2022-07-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I remember when nuclear power was in its infancy, and the motto was "too cheap to meter." On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 1:08 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Haha yeah we’d go riding around in my buddy’s car on Friday nights and > before he took the car home we’d all

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2022-07-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Haha yeah we’d go riding around in my buddy’s car on Friday nights and before he took the car home we’d all kick in a quarter or two to go fill up so his dad wouldn’t be pissed the next morning --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jul 2, 2022, at 10:53 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember

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2022-07-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I remember Dad coming home from work and telling that there was a gas price war down the street, go fill my car - a 1951 bug. I only had $0.50 on me, and the car would not hold that much gas! I think it was around 0.10/gal and my tank was about half full (no gas gauge in 1951). On Sat, Jul 2,

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2022-07-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I remember a stretch of traffic lights breaking up the interstate on the way to Boston from NYC where there was always a running competition to sell the cheapest gas. 22 cents/gallon comes to mind. This was in the mid 60s. On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:25 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <

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2022-07-02 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
I recall the spinny wheel pumps. I also recall nobody ever thought gas would be more than 99.9, so you had to multiply by two... On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 7:33 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > My phone appears to only have actually kept one photo out of the bunch

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2022-06-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
when I started driving Gulftane (panther piss) was 14.9. I remember the crank pumps & sight glass but not with little balls in it. On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, 1:02 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And they checked your oil and washed the windshield, too, right? > >

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2022-06-28 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-06-28 13:24, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: They used to check more at a fuel stop than most people check ... EVER. https://youtu.be/f984Pt8tmms Batteries took more water back then but I don't think I'd want somebody unscrewing the caps 2-4x a month.

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2022-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
ost people check ... EVER. > >> > >> https://youtu.be/f984Pt8tmms > >> > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Sent: June 28, 2022 11:56 AM > >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Reply-t

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2022-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
28, 2022 11:56 AM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com >> Subject: [MBZ] Premium 16.9/gal >> >> [cid:8a17752d-41c3-457d-be99-f257338d0d62@namprd11.prod.outlook.com] >> >> >> --FT >>

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2022-06-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
4Pt8tmms > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 28, 2022 11:56 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com > Subject: [MBZ] Premium 16.9/gal > > [cid:8a17752d-41c3-457d-be99-f257338d0d62

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2022-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Tokheim pumps were made in my old home town Ft Wayne at a factory across from the airport. That guy invented the “automatic” pump. I think it might still be there. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > If you look at this old Texaco

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2022-06-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
If you look at this old Texaco pump you can see the sight glass at the top right, just above and to the left of the nozzle. https://blog.retroplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Texaco-Tokheim_zm.jpg They could have little “vanes” in them that turned as the gasoline went through, or 2-3

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2022-06-28 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-06-28 13:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I don't remember the sight glass but do remember mechanical pumps that had to be scrapped when the price per gallon topped $1.00. For a while they would set the price in the pump at 1/2 the actual price, and then double the total when you

Re: [MBZ] Premium 16.9/gal

2022-06-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I don't remember the sight glass but do remember mechanical pumps that had to be scrapped when the price per gallon topped $1.00. For a while they would set the price in the pump at 1/2 the actual price, and then double the total when you paid. On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, at 12:02 PM, dan

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2022-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Tried to sell me a new tire too but all they had was some recaps --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:02 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > And they checked your oil and washed the windshield, too, right? > > Remember the gas pumps that had the sight glass with the little

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2022-06-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
And they checked your oil and washed the windshield, too, right? Remember the gas pumps that had the sight glass with the little colored balls that rolled around when the gas was pumping? Or am I dating myself? -D heading out to yell at the kids on my lawn… On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:55 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-05-22 20:14, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: They have regularly assured members that they will not increase prices on food court items as a matter of principle. Do realize that they control the processing of those foodstuffs from the start to the end of the supply chain. The 18"

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2022-05-22 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
They have regularly assured members that they will not increase prices on food court items as a matter of principle. Do realize that they control the processing of those foodstuffs from the start to the end of the supply chain. -D > On May 22, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

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2022-05-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Vicious rumor going around that Costco was about to raise the price of its hot dogs by $1 to $2.50. NOT TRUE! On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 6:44 PM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-05-22 18:02, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > I imagine if you typed in your area code and 867-5309 you'd get

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-05-22 18:02, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I imagine if you typed in your area code and 867-5309 you'd get a discount too, without being tracked. Poor Jenny. Try it and see what happens. At Shell, you type the phone number. At Marathon you put 11 in front of the phone number.

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
ked. Poor Jenny. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 22, 2022 4:46 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco > > On 2022-05-22 17:29, dan penoff.com

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I imagine if you typed in your area code and 867-5309 you'd get a discount too, without being tracked. Poor Jenny. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: May 22, 2022 4:46 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-05-22 17:29, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I topped off twice last week and it was $4.799 both times. According to a GasBuddy check 21 minutes ago for my Costco, it’s down to $4.759. $4.989 here. $4.499 for 87. I can get 87 at a nearby Marathon for $4.509 minus 5 cents. I'm

Re: [MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I topped off twice last week and it was $4.799 both times. According to a GasBuddy check 21 minutes ago for my Costco, it’s down to $4.759. -D > On May 22, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Up 5cents since Thursday > > --FT > Sent from iFōn >

[MBZ] Premium at Costco

2022-05-22 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Up 5cents since Thursday --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

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2022-03-01 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That’s far more likely to occur where you are due to your immigration laws and the diversity of your citizens. I had a customer in Calgary who was a three-way partnership. One guy was Scottish, another Indian (as in Asia) and the third from Hong Kong. Listening to the conversations in meetings

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2022-03-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
All you really need is a spouse who is a New Zealander. I had clients who moved there. She was originally from New Zealand and had somehow ended up here and married a Canadian. Their biggest issue was that they had a couple of cats and the cats had to be kept in quarantine for a month or two

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2022-02-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
z.com> wrote: > > > > New Zealand where all the multi billionaire's have property as a hedge > against certain occurances. > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: February 28, 2022 3:05 PM > > To: merc

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2022-02-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
y as a hedge > against certain occurances. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: February 28, 2022 3:05 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium > > WIth such a glu

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2022-02-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I am at Costco filling up the ML500. Premium up 3cents since yesterday. $3.80 now, reg is $3.20. I’m not sure of the reason for such a difference, what the formulation difference is. Is there a difference in ethanol amount? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Feb 28, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

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2022-02-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
More people will once again be trying to make veggie oil diesel and ruin a bunch more of the old Mercedes. On 28/02/2022 2:53 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: $1.73 (what it was two years ago) is cheap. $3.73 is not. The day is coming when $5.73 will be a bargain.

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2022-02-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
ebruary 28, 2022 3:05 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium > > WIth such a glum future maybe move to Mexico? > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 4:03 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.co

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2022-02-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
New Zealand where all the multi billionaire's have property as a hedge against certain occurances. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 28, 2022 3:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium WIth such a glum

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2022-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium >> >> Filled up this afternoon @$3.99.  As cheap as $3.73 (cash price) >> >> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes &l

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2022-02-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
t; >> > >> Rick > >> > >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Sent: February 28, 2022 2:50 PM > >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium >

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2022-02-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
two years ago) is cheap. >> $3.73 is not. >> The day is coming when $5.73 will be a bargain. >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: February 28, 2022 2:50 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: astrasf

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2022-02-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Yeah. They'll be en Fuego. Rick From: astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: February 28, 2022 2:58 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium EV sales will skyrocket. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:54 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>

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2022-02-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
om > Sent: February 28, 2022 2:50 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium > > Filled up this afternoon @$3.99. As cheap as $3.73 (cash price) > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:41 PM A

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2022-02-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
$1.73 (what it was two years ago) is cheap. $3.73 is not. The day is coming when $5.73 will be a bargain. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 28, 2022 2:50 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Filled up

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2022-02-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Filled up this afternoon @$3.99. As cheap as $3.73 (cash price) On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 3:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Diesel was $3.99 here yesterday I think -- or very recently. > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, at 3:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >

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2022-02-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Diesel was $3.99 here yesterday I think -- or very recently. On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, at 3:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I didn’t catch regular while I was out, but I did notice that diesel > was “only” $3.99 in Flagstaff. Thought that was pretty cheap. > > -D > > Sent from my iPad >

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2022-02-28 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I didn’t catch regular while I was out, but I did notice that diesel was “only” $3.99 in Flagstaff. Thought that was pretty cheap. -D Sent from my iPad > On Feb 28, 2022, at 12:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Regular 87 is $3.69 here this morning, diesel is $4.15. > > >> On

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2022-02-28 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Regular 87 is $3.69 here this morning, diesel is $4.15. On Sun, Feb 27, 2022, at 4:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Can’t cut the line at my Costco, however, it fans out to like ten pumps > from a single lane, which means if some idiot doesn’t move out to the > edges as they pull up

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2022-02-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Can’t cut the line at my Costco, however, it fans out to like ten pumps from a single lane, which means if some idiot doesn’t move out to the edges as they pull up it gets clogged up and the outer pumps are underutilized. -D > On Feb 27, 2022, at 1:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote:

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2022-02-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Hurray, strange how that happened. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2022, at 1:55 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > 3.68 at the Costco 40 miles away, 4.19 locally. > Hooray, it's 2011-2012 all over again. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To

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2022-02-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Same at sams. Even though the lines are long, it usually moved fairly smooth and organized because the pumps are one way. That is until some moron thinks the rules don’t apply and enter thru the exit side completely ignoring the signs or the line of cars coming in the other way. Sent from my

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2022-02-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
3.68 at the Costco 40 miles away, 4.19 locally. Hooray, it's 2011-2012 all over again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2022-02-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Seems like my Costco is always like that except for early in the morning. The rest of the day it’s a madhouse. -D > On Feb 27, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > $3.76 at Costco now, up another $0.10 from the last fillup last week. > > Plus the place is a

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2022-02-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep, it’s insane how much the cost of things have gone up in the last year. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > $3.76 at Costco now, up another $0.10 from the last fillup last week. > > Plus the place is a madhouse, lines for

[MBZ] Premium

2022-02-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
$3.76 at Costco now, up another $0.10 from the last fillup last week. Plus the place is a madhouse, lines for pumps were way long, everyone shopping. Usually Sunday is kinda slow but it’s a sorta half rainy day so maybe that’s it. --FT Sent from iFōn ___

[MBZ] Premium price and no battery?

2021-10-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I find that snowmobiles seem to do better on premium too. Not sure if it's all in my head or not... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 3:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > I don't think there is any reason why one cannot put premium fuel in a > vehicle

Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
There's a reasonable list of E0 dealers available here (Canada too): https://www.pure-gas.org/ Anything over 85 pump octane is going to have octane boosters in it, and in North America, that's pretty much going to be ethanol or MTBE. MTBE isn't an oxidant, but it's not popular with

Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/05/2021 2:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I don't think there is any reason why one cannot put premium fuel in a vehicle that only calls for regular. I use premium in all my small engines (mowers, weedeaters, etc.) It used to be that premium didn't have ethanol, that is why I

Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
> I don't think there is any reason why one cannot put premium fuel in a > vehicle that only calls for regular. I use premium in all my small engines (mowers, weedeaters, etc.) It used to be that premium didn't have ethanol, that is why I started doing it. Not sure that's the case anymore, but

Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
My dad used to get "ethyl" all the time when the cars he had did fine on regular.  (When I was little I always wondered who Ethyl was that he would be getting gas from her, or whatever)   For cars that run fine on regular it is a waste of money but if that is all that is available then you get

Re: [MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/05/2021 1:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Talked to the girlchild last night, she lives in Chapel Hill NC.  She said she was thankful for once (and one time only!) that her 99E320 requires premium fuel as that was all that she could find at one gas station that had petrol I

[MBZ] Premium fuel

2021-05-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Talked to the girlchild last night, she lives in Chapel Hill NC.  She said she was thankful for once (and one time only!) that her 99E320 requires premium fuel as that was all that she could find at one gas station that had petrol -- --FT ___

[MBZ] Premium Fuel & Catalysts

2017-06-30 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Since this was a recent question, I thought I would point out something I just saw in a W210 Owner's Manual: "Caution! To prevent damage to the catalytic converters, use only premium unleaded gasoline in this vehicle." -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] Premium required? [was: Snookmobile moves to Los Alamos]

2011-07-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: the car has a knock sensor and probably the computer will compensate, but is that really desireable?  I mean, if it was designed to run on premium do we really want to have the computer compensating and lowering

Re: [MBZ] Premium required?

2011-07-22 Thread Allan Streib
I'm in the Marshall Booth camp. I say use what the manufacturer says to use. You think you are smarter than all their engineering staff? Fine, do what you want in YOUR car. But if you ask me, I say the people who designed the car are the authorities here. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends

2011-07-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
To use the M103 engine as an example, over here in Ozzieland we have three grades of unleaded, 91, 95 and 98. Back in 86 when the 103 was introduced into Oz we only had 91, so the engineers at Daimler-Benz (DB) set the 103 to run on 91 via a resistor (I think it's the R12). This can be changed

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends

2011-07-22 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes: It is my understanding that the higher the octane rating, the quicker the burn, so you are able to set the ignition closer to TDC (top dead center) and get more power out of an engine, particularly if it has a higher compression ratio. I think it

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends on the idiot telling the story

2011-07-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
It's all Rogers fault, he had me in tears about the comment that I don't look after my cars. However yes you may be right, which was part of the discussion about using higher octane fuel in the Oz spec 103, you would really need to raise the compression ratio in order to get any real benefit

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends on the idiot telling the story

2011-07-22 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote: It's all Rogers fault, he had me in tears about the comment that I don't look after my cars. Cue RLE... I thought he was nailing me - oh, that's right - you didn't drive that car last year, and it was only this year that I did repair the brakes and commented - which RLE gags when

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends on the idiot telling the story

2011-07-22 Thread Peter Frederick
The compression ratio is only part of the requirement -- the design of the combustion chamber, the actual mixture programmed into the EFI, ignition timing curve, and the spark plug placement and design all affect pre-ignition and detonation, which are the two causes of engine failure

Re: [MBZ] Premium required? Depends on the idiot telling the story

2011-07-22 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes: OK just had a read of my recently acquired owners manual and it says to use minimum 95, although this may be a manual produced at a later date than 86, the 300TE was introduced in 89. This is all so confusing for my little brain. Then you have to

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:41:06 + Mathieu J. Cama c...@oldworldauto.com wrote: Look at the m100 (6.3) rebuild pictures on my website. As Ed said, nice pics. What did you do to the exhaust manifolds? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

[MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices

2008-12-30 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: Do you require premium or regular gas? That is up in the air right now. The manual says premium, the fuel cap/door say premium. But, I have asked a few others that have this car and some of them say it needs premium and others say it is a waste of money. I have not noticed any

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices

2008-12-30 Thread Tim C.
- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.comReply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Andrew wrote: Do you require premium or regular gas

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices

2008-12-30 Thread Peter Arnold
that will be true with a Cadillac but it would seem reasonable. YMMV, and no I don't have a link. :( -TC -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-30 Thread Tony Wirtel
Does the M103 have a knock sensor? I didn't think they did. Mine pings big time with 87. Tony Wirtel -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices To: 'Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-30 Thread Mathieu J. Cama
] Premium v. Regular Sent: 31 Dec '08 02:22 Does the M103 have a knock sensor?  I didn't think they did.  Mine pings big time with 87. Tony Wirtel -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Date: Tuesday, Dec 30, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-30 Thread E M
www.oldworldauto.com ---Original Message--- From: Tony Wirtel tony.wir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular Sent: 31 Dec '08 02:22 Does the M103 have a knock sensor? I didn't think they did. Mine pings big time with 87. Tony Wirtel

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
, 2008 11:54 am Subject: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular was Re: Fuel prices To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.comReply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Andrew wrote: Do you require premium or regular gas? That is up in the air right now. The manual says premium

Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular

2008-12-30 Thread Tony Wirtel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium v. Regular Your poor m103 with a 9 or 10 :1 CR, no wonder it is pinging! An no, there is not a knock sensor on that motor (at least the early ones). They will ping until they crack a ring and melt a piston. Look at the m100 (6.3) rebuild pictures on my website

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Stark
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? Donald Snook wrote: I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:01 AM Subject: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's. Do I really need to run premium

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
there is no need to get the timing light out. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Peter Frederick
My rule of thumb on the octane issue is thus: If you have KE-Jetronic and no knock sensor, do NOT use anything but premium on the highway. Midgrade is OK around town, but you really need the knock protection on the interstate as the engine cannot retard the ignition timing if it knocks.

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread mykd1
Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:18:15 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? My rule of thumb on the octane issue is thus: If you have KE-Jetronic and no knock sensor, do NOT use anything but premium on the highway. Midgrade is OK around town, but you really need

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the 560 will run fine on 87, but yes, I think the 6's need something higher. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:31:37PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote: I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the premium

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
sorry to pipe in here, but 2k seems way too high to me for one of those. IT should have already had new tires for that kind of money unless its just showroom nice Donald Snook wrote: Rick Knoble wrote: 1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP How much for the geezer-mobile? $2000.

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
my 560 gets the same mileage and has the same amount of power with 87 John Berryman wrote: On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: I wonder if the 420SEL or 560SEL will run on less than premium and if so, what is the minimum octane rating that these engines will run? I run a lot

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-20 Thread Marshall Booth
Donald Snook wrote: I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's. Do I really need to run premium in my 1990 300SEL? I am pretty sure the simple answer will

[MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Donald Snook
I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's. Do I really need to run premium in my 1990 300SEL? I am pretty sure the simple answer will be yes. Just wondering

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Rick Knoble
1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP How much for the geezer-mobile? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:31:37PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote: I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's. Do I really need to run premium in my 1990 300SEL?

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:31:37PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote: I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not? I wonder if the 420SEL or 560SEL will run on less than premium and if so, what is the minimum octane rating that these engines will run? I run a lot of miles /year and I've started to see some deals with both cars. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread Donald Snook
Rick Knoble wrote: 1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K FOR SALE CHEAP How much for the geezer-mobile? $2000. The dealership selling it wanted $3995 (which I admit is insane). I bought it for $2K. I also put brand new tires on it (less than 3K miles on them now) replaced front brakes (pads AND new

Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

2006-01-19 Thread John Berryman
On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:02 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: I wonder if the 420SEL or 560SEL will run on less than premium and if so, what is the minimum octane rating that these engines will run? I run a lot of miles /year and I've started to see some deals with both cars. Thanks, Tom Hargrave