On June 30, 2016 at 12:21 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:Propane is $.89 a gallon now. Whazzit? R600? That might make an economical refrigerant for the shop.Economical, but I wonder about purity. The best stuff that's bought by the gallon is HD5, which is at least 90% propane and no more tha
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Those Surplus City Liquidator prices look pretty darn good, if shipping is
reasonable they would probably beat the prices of the place that I linked.
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Max
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> I've bought stuff f
This is normally about as cheap as 4 ton condensers get:https://www.acwholesalers.com/Goodman-Air-Conditioner/VSX140481-4-Ton-14-SEER-Air-Conditioner-Condenser-with-R410A/67115.ac
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That looks like it’s just the condenser/compressor, no air handler/evaporator.
Some good deals there.
Dan
> On Jun 30, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I've bought stuff from deze guys. Dunno if max's place is cheaper, but
> these guys have some really good deal
Propane is $.89 a gallon now. Whazzit? R600? That might make an
economical refrigerant for the shop.
R290. Fairly close to R22, isn't it?
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I've bought stuff from deze guys. Dunno if max's place is cheaper, but
these guys have some really good deals if you keep watching. (subscribe
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would; Don has the outside unit. ;<)
Wilton
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Is it the inside and
Don't forget the "open-to-underside-of-roof" aspect of it.
Wilt
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If you take the shop
I have four solar powered roof vent fans, plus a gable fan exhausting a
VERY hot attic.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Something that you could do to gain on the fight against heat load for the
> building is to install a couple of attic fans in the gables. Typicall
Something that you could do to gain on the fight against heat load for the
building is to install a couple of attic fans in the gables. Typically,
they are 3 speed fans, with louvers that are blown open by the fan, and a
screen to keep critters out. Home creepo and Lowes has them.. as a starting
po
You need lower openings to let fresh (cooler?) air in - now air in, no air
out. Again, the sizes need to be matched. An old rule of thumb was that the
inlet needs to be twice the outlet for convection air flow.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Does your shop have a c
If you take the shop dimensions, and thickness and type of insulation, to a big
A/C dealer and ask them to run it through their computer program, they can tell
you how big the A/C would have to be.
I did that with my shop and found that after the shop was finished, the dealers
program was exactl
Or you can use the R-22 equivalent offered by Envirosafe, the
same company that sells the e-12 that some of us use in our cars.
Manfred
Who has 6 cans of the stuff on the shelf.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:36:18 -0500
From: OK Don
Yes - some local A/C shops recycle/reclaim what they run acro
Yes it is open to the rafters
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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Does your shop have a ceiling that is open to the rafters? No enclosed
> attic space?
>
> If it does, you might get a very appreciable gain by installing attic fans
> at each end
Does your shop have a ceiling that is open to the rafters? No enclosed
attic space?
If it does, you might get a very appreciable gain by installing attic fans
at each end of the gables.. They move the very heated air at the top of the
building out of the building, which greatly reduces the total s
Too humid here
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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:01:12 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> wrote:
>
>> I figured I could just run a single run duct down the middle with vents
>> out the side like I have seen in commerc
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:01:12 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
> I figured I could just run a single run duct down the middle with vents
> out the side like I have seen in commercial type buildings. I would
> probably have to get somebody to hook it up as I assume the copper
> lines w
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> Thats actually an excellent idea, have part of the shop for working
>> and
>>> part for storage, the storage part need not be cooled.
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> From: Joel Cairo vi
d not be cooled.
>> -Curt
>>
>> From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Joel Cairo
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling
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>> Get one of those big curtains to bloc
016 3:57 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> Indeed, you would; Don has the outside unit. ;<)
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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t; -Curt
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> From: OK Don
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:38 PM
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> I think that degree of organization is far beyond Kaleb's abilities (and mine
> as well).
> On
:38 PM
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I think that degree of organization is far beyond Kaleb's abilities (and mine
as well).
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
Thats actually an excellent idea, have part of the shop for working and part
for storage
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
Thats actually an excellent idea, have part of the shop for working and
part for storage, the storage part need not be cooled.
-Curt
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storage part need not be cooled.
> -Curt
>
> From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Joel Cairo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling
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> Get one of those big curtains to block off the part of the shop
Thats actually an excellent idea, have part of the shop for working and part
for storage, the storage part need not be cooled.
-Curt
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Get one
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>> Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need
>>> b
h...
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So earlier I was thinking about a swamp cooler for the shop which
would not be very effec
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Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I
would need both I would guess.
On 6/28/2016 3:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I have a 5 ton R22 compressor
mini split with the
indoor unit in the same spot. Our 900sqft house doesn't require much...
-Curt
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Indeed, you would; Don has the outside unit. ;<)
Wilton
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Is
Just the outside unit. You'd have to find/buy a 5 ton R-22 inside unit to
go with it.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need
> both I would guess.
>
>
>
> On 6/28/2
Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I
would need both I would guess.
On 6/28/2016 3:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I have a 5 ton R22 compressor/condenser unit that you can have for coming
to get it - - - it is supposed to work, but it's been sitting in the hangar
f
I have a 5 ton R22 compressor/condenser unit that you can have for coming
to get it - - - it is supposed to work, but it's been sitting in the hangar
from before I bought this place.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So earlier I was
I have the 2 gas heaters out there but they need to be hooked up
to propane. If I was able to snag a heat pump that would be even
better I suppose.
On 6/28/2016 3:10 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:
You would need to do a calculation on what size you would need
based on the size of the spa
Generally a new unit will come with a full charge of refrigerant. I use
this place, great prices for two heat pumps several years ago, R410 with
SEER 13 rating:
http://www.shop.thefurnaceoutlet.com/main.sc
Free shipping above a certain price point, you can download the
installation manuals so yo
You would need to do a calculation on what size you would need based on
the size of the space, the insulation, doors, and such. Or call an AC
guy and they could probably give you a rough idea to get maybe 20deg
difference inside v. outside (80F inside, 100F outside). Does it get
cold there in
So earlier I was thinking about a swamp cooler for the shop which
would not be very effective. I bought a high velocity fan the
other day which helps a bunch. Today I got to thinking about how
my shop is fully insulated. Its 40x60 why could I not install a
central AC unit out there? I could
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