Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-29 Thread Larry T
I have tried a 5 gal plastic gas jug also - collapsed like a cheap suit... LarryT On 4/26/2013 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I have a plastic gas "can I put a barb fitting in the vent hole for the extraction hose and the fill/pour hole is just right to jam the vac hose into. Turn on the vac an

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-27 Thread Craig
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:59:35 -0600 Craig wrote: > I've attached a ZIP file of the web page. Unzip it somewhere and open > how.not.html with your web browser. > > > Craig > > P.S. Dan, I've sent this to you directly since it's over the list's > 40 kB threshold. > __

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-27 Thread Craig
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:11:45 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > I have a plastic gas "can I put a barb fitting in the vent hole for the > extraction hose and the fill/pour hole is just right to jam the vac > hose into. Turn on the vac and it sorta collapses (the "Visual Vacuum > Indicator") while suck

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-27 Thread Larry T
That was back when things were made to LAST! Larry On 4/26/2013 8:10 PM, OK Don wrote: The can is one my Dad bought in MPLS in the 1940s. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread clay
I would wonder about the seal depending upon how the paint was extracted. If you removed the lid and stirred the paint, would the lid no longer seal as well as had the paint been removed by the screw open hole? I might think being able to screw shut the top or seal it well would assist in hold

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread OK Don
"The Oil can you're talking about is the one with a trigger and 3" or 4" tube with a squirter on the end?" That's what I use on Cessna's - though the fluid is different. Never had a problem with it sucking back. The can is one my Dad bought in MPLS in the 1940s. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat T

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
t: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Thus proved the power of vacuum! BTW, never, ever try to syphon the newer fuels containing ethanol - it is positively nasty! (I suspect many of us have had those lazy moments...) Larryt On 4/26/2013 1:41 PM, WILTO

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Larry T
ned by mouth. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal On 26/04/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: Yes, another reminder - it doesn't really take much po

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Larry T
k Knoble" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:01 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as an extraction unit - here's

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
That should read "---I HAVE all of my original teeth." Wilt - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Yeah, I had that thought, too, about stai

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
ube, I took a breath and got fumes in my lungs, etc; LAST time I siphoned by mouth. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal On 26/04/2013 11:30 A

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Larry T
The Oil can you're talking about is the one with a trigger and 3" or 4" tube with a squirter on the end? I guess you never had a problem with the can pulling fluid back into the oil can on the back stroke of the trigger? I doubt there's any suction created but gravity might pull some back - o

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 26/04/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: Yes, another reminder - it doesn't really take much power to get the suction/siphon started. 'Could probably start the HOT oil siphon by mouth if one were foolish enough (I'm not) to try it. It's all done by nature (atmospheric pressure) after the oil rea

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
the hump in the evac tube, anyway -- after the siphon is started, one could POSSIBLY remove the vac hose from the receiver, and let nature do it. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:11 PM Subject

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:01 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as an extraction unit - here's what I was thinking - please offer any critiques: I used to use a five gallon bucket as a topsider before. The shop vac creat

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
ssion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:01 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as an extraction unit - here's what I was thinking - please off

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread G Mann
A word of caution when using this system. ALWAYS put the cap on the clutch master cylinder loosely. If you don't you will squirt brake fluid in places you don't want and peel paint [don't ask how I know this ;)) ] For clutch systems, I've also used for years a manual oil pump can, the old hardware

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:01 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as an > extraction unit - here's what I was thinking - please offer any critiques: I used to use a five gallon bucket as a topsider before. The shop vac creates enough suction

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Dan Penoff
Hmm. Good point. So maybe the dip tube is a bad idea? Makes sense, as there would be a lot of agitation once it gets covered with oil, which would most likely create a lot of oil mist/droplets, etc. Thanks! Dan On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, WILTON wrote: > 'Need to be careful that, as buck

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread WILTON
of bucket. Gap/space allows the air flow, if any, to slow down enough to drop the oil; 'never had a problem of oil into vac hose. YMMV ;<) Wilt - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:01

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I have a plastic gas "can I put a barb fitting in the vent hole for the extraction hose and the fill/pour hole is just right to jam the vac hose into. Turn on the vac and it sorta collapses (the "Visual Vacuum Indicator") while sucking out the oil. The barb cost a buck, the hose was a buck, I

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as an extraction unit - here's what I was thinking - please offer any critiques: Five gallon paint bucket. Drill a hole and thread a hose barb fitting into the lid opposite the collapsible "spigot". Put a bushing on the inside o

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-26 Thread Larry T
That sure sounds painless! My fuel pump is a diaphragm type so hopefully it will work fine. I am recovering from knee surgery so getting down and getting back up are pretty difficult for me at this point but your method is so simple I can probably supervise my wife and son! I mentioned using

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-25 Thread G Mann
Larry, One cheapie pump I have is a diaphragm type pump.. one is a gear type. Both work for oil removal. The gear type is slightly higher volume, but a bit harder to get primed.. so it runs longer before sucking oil. No filter, they are "trash pumps" dedicated to oil removal. You will be spoiled

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-25 Thread Max Dillon
I don't think a filter is required. I use a small sump pump, which is far bigger than a car fuel pump. The most difficult part (not really hard at all) is the plumbing. I have an empty R-22 bottle and a vacuum pump, next oil change I'm going to pull a nice vacuum on the bottle and try to plum

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-25 Thread Larry T
Grant, Thanks! I happen to have a couple of extra fuel pumps -- it sounds like you pumped the oil through the pump just like it was fuel, which avoids the use of a vacuum vessel and its added complication? If so, did you filter it before going through the pump? I guess there's no reason

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread G Mann
Why all the fuss? I've been using a cheap [$25 off the internet] fuel pump for so long I can't remember exactly when I got it. A trip to the hardware store for barb fittings , fuel hose,[in and out] a piece of semi-rigid nylon tubing with a 30 degree angle cut on the bottom end [so it doesn't suck

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've been using this one for about eight or nine years and been completely satisfied with it. It came with a spare parts list and phone number to call, which I always think is a good sign that the company expects you to keep it a while, but hasn't needed any repair yet.

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
> > >> On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:26 PM, LarryT wrote: >> >> >>> Are there any brands which have taken over the top spot as the best oil >>> suction unit? >>> >>> I've been using this one for about eight or nine years and been completely satisfied with it. It came with a spare parts list and phone num

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread Larry T
Max, I'll look at the pump and see how it comes apart - I wrote the manufacturer to see about spare pump parts but so far no word... Thanks - Larry On 4/15/2013 1:33 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Can you replace seals? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and use

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
e the "jump." YMMV Just as with skinning a cat, there are many ways to do it. ;<) 'Never a problem with mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what about this? http://www.amazon.com/SeaSense-Volt-Oil-Changer-50091450/dp/B001BR9XIG/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1366468520&sr=8-9&keywords=oil+extractor or this http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7300-PneumatiVac-Air-Operated-Evacuator/dp/B000JFN9WW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1366468520&sr=8-6&keywords=o

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Hi Mitch - I also had trouble using a vacuum - made a mess like you but my mess was in the vacuum tubing and the vacuum itself! So I went back to the Topsider. That reminds me. Cleaning the shop vac wasn't such a big deal. Cleaning the shop vac hose was a big deal. Maybe the p

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread LarryT
Thanks Clay - I believe I got my 1st Topsider from West Marine.. Larry On 4/15/2013 10:57 PM, clay wrote: Boat shop would be a good place. They seem to have the top sider for around half price of car stores. clay On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, LarryT wrote: Hi Gang, My TopSider seems to be

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread LarryT
5, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Hi Gang, My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer works even though I oil it regularly) and I plan to replace it.I've struggled with it the last 2 oil changes and have vowed 'never again' so I am looking for

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread LarryT
;Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal See my 26 Aug 2005 post "$2 Oil Sucker." Wilton - Original Message - From: "LarryT" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread LarryT
Thx Max - will give it a try & let ya'll know... Larry On 4/15/2013 1:33 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Can you replace seals? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread LarryT
Hi Mitch - I also had trouble using a vacuum - made a mess like you but my mess was in the vacuum tubing and the vacuum itself! So I went back to the Topsider. I'll try to get replacement parts from Topsider I think... Larry On 4/15/2013 1:42 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: 'Never a pr

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-16 Thread Dieselhead
"jump." YMMV Just as with skinning a cat, there are many ways to do it. ;<) 'Never a problem with mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:25 PM Sub

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Mine worked fine on the '01 ML320 --- even checked it by pulling the pan drain plug afterwards - no oil was left. Did you have a good seal to the dip stick tube? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Haley wr

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread clay
Boat shop would be a good place. They seem to have the top sider for around half price of car stores. clay On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, LarryT wrote: > Hi Gang, > My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer works even though I > oil it regularly) and I plan to replace it.I'

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread OK Don
Mine worked fine on the '01 ML320 --- even checked it by pulling the pan drain plug afterwards - no oil was left. Did you have a good seal to the dip stick tube? On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > WILTON wrote: > >> 'Never a problem with my $2 sucker - merely an extension of

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
blem with mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Do you have a dip tube in it? It needs a tube form the inlet hos

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Dan Penoff
As I recall, there was a very heavy and thick pad that covered the lower portion of the housing where the motor is located. That was in addition to the bag, so I don't think there is anything getting out of the vacuum itself. If there was dirt on the floor I would suspect it would blow it around

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Dieselhead
Do you have a dip tube in it? It needs a tube form the inlet hose to the bottom of the bucket to collect the oil in. THe vacuum hoce attached to the top of the bucket, but the oil needs to be carried to near the bottom of the bucket Reasonably sure. It certainly couldn't have been leak

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Curt Raymond
come back when the sound of the shop vac changes because the plastic hose fell off the car when all the oil was gone. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:26:26 -0400 From: LarryT To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Message-ID: <516c2a32.6010...@comcast.net> Co

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: Amazingly, they still make a modern version. Amazingly, nobody else directs the exhaust into the floor to save on the cost of wheels. I wonder if it stirs up the dust around the room, when the whole point of vacuuming is to get dust out of the carpet and into the canister.

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Are you sure that the oil discharge point in the receiver can is well above possible oil level in the receiver so that the oil can "drop out" safely and not be carried into hose to the vac cleaner? I don't remember how high the end of the tube was, but it was well away from the

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
ssion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Are you sure that the oil discharge point in the receiver can is well above possible oil level in the receiver so that the oil can "drop out" safely and not be carried into hose to the vac cle

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
es Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal WILTON wrote: Wonder how Mr. MB Stealer would suck oil from your '99 E320? 'You sure joint between evac hose and dipstick tube sealed? Reasonably sure. It certainly couldn'

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Frederick Moir
Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: LarryT >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:26 PM >Subject: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal > > >Hi Gang, >My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer w

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Randy Bennell
On 15/04/2013 1:33 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: WILTON wrote: Wonder how Mr. MB Stealer would suck oil from your '99 E320? 'You sure joint between evac hose and dipstick tube sealed? Reasonably sure. It certainly couldn't have been leaking the entire wind that blew through the bucket and carried oi

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Dan Penoff
I had a great flashback the other night Was watching Mad Men, and in the background the maid was sweeping the floor using a Hoover "Constellation" vacuum cleaner. mom had one of these, and I was always fascinated by both the design and the ability to "hover". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Wonder how Mr. MB Stealer would suck oil from your '99 E320? 'You sure joint between evac hose and dipstick tube sealed? Reasonably sure. It certainly couldn't have been leaking the entire wind that blew through the bucket and carried oil spray into my shop vac. Got 2-3 quarts of

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
Wonder how Mr. MB Stealer would suck oil from your '99 E320? 'You sure joint between evac hose and dipstick tube sealed? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:42 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
'Still using a vac that I bought for Mom in 1954 for my sucker vac power. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal The 1960 monkey wards vacuu

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 'Never a problem with my $2 sucker - merely an extension of nature. My $2 sucker was a total mess when I tried it on my '99 E320. Was getting massive quantities of air out of the dipstick tube. Had to conclude that not all dipstick tubes go to the bottom of the pan. Mitch. _

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Max Dillon
Can you replace seals? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 LarryT wrote: >Hi Gang, >My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer works even >though I oil it regularly) and I plan to replace it.I've struggled > >with it the last 2 oil changes and hav

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread OK Don
: > 'Never a problem with my $2 sucker - merely an extension of nature. > > Wilton > - Original Message - From: "WILTON" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil remova

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
'Never a problem with my $2 sucker - merely an extension of nature. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal See my 26 Aug 2005 post

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread WILTON
See my 26 Aug 2005 post "$2 Oil Sucker." Wilton - Original Message - From: "LarryT" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Hi Gang, My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no l

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal Hi Gang, My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer works even though I oil it regularly

Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread Dan Penoff
Larry, I have had two Topsiders over the years and both wore out prematurely, in my opinion. I still have the cans that I use for waste oil storage and transport, but the pump parts are long gone. While I decided I don't want to mess with the expense of a new oil extractor, when I recently re

[MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

2013-04-15 Thread LarryT
Hi Gang, My TopSider seems to be dieing (the vacuum pump no longer works even though I oil it regularly) and I plan to replace it.I've struggled with it the last 2 oil changes and have vowed 'never again' so I am looking for a new one. Are there any brands which have taken over the top s