Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Thats why we call them STEALERships! OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 8:30 PM: Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards, got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would

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2019-10-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards, got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would never be back. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If it was an older one from the 80s it wouldn’t be a problem other than sourcing parts, I would expect. They were pretty analog at that time. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Not really - it’s

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle… -D And having it repaired out in the boonies would likely pose a problem unless he

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle… -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > I know. I was just being a smart ass! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I know. I was just being a smart ass! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately. > > -D > > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Ok, I

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes: > > A vintage G-wagen! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at

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2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 12:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two wheels and measured the

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes: A vintage G-wagen! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall > (reprogramming the shift down computer,

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2019-10-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The time

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Dad had a few stories about stuff that happened in GM plants, but it wasn’t first hand so it’s tough to know if it was true or just anecdotal. I once worked with an older guy in the 80s who worked on the line at Studebaker before they shut down. He told stories of how after it was announced

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Was it rusting out by the time you got home? Was there a tuna sandwich in the door?I'd like to know how many of the stories of labor influenced disasters of that period are true. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: As I

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Toyota is a big player in Trophy truck racing. Big output engines, huge travel suspension, off-road at highway speeds... I didn't like the Tacoma when we drove them before buying our Dodge. The swiss cheese frame debacle awhile ago didn't impress me either. That said there is a reason the Hilux

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
As I recall, it was. While the Córdoba was probably the pinnacle of crappy Detroit iron of time, it was a really nice car as I recall. -D > On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather? > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 16/10/2019 10:16 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the occupants hold up in an accident. Sadly, most North American pickup trucks did not have a very good crash rating until fairly recently either. I know my '02

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Exactly! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? > > A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. > It needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the occupants hold up in an accident. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be > considered good? > As long as a

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Good one! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >> though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts > with

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yeah the TRD is funny. Toyota Racing Development my arse. Who races garbage Toyota pickups anyway? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky > and turd. > > Kevin

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2019-10-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather? Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM: My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but… His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge

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2019-10-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but… His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had more chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio

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2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I have a friend who had a 67 galaxie when I met him.   I believe his parents bought it new.  He got over 300 k with it.  He replaces each frod with another.  Each one got over 300k.  BTW he was an A when I met him, working on a degree in Aero E.   Since he gradgitated, he has worked for a

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2019-10-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming > weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll > never know... Maybe they hung out with the MBUSA folks and smoke the same stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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2019-10-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. It needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have a very commanding resale value too. Rick ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups last a long time". But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k",

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Scion, like Saturn, was meant to sell for no-haggle MSRP. > On October 15, 2019 at 5:11 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the > dealers wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a > good

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
damn straight I will when I get fed up with garbage from people who have never owned one. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. Randy On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
right but you don't know what was done to it or how it was serviced. Just because it was dealer serviced does not mean it was done right. I did all the service on our Tacoma so all I can say is that either we got very lucky and got a good car or there is something that went on with your

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Some similar options: https://m.facebook.com/search/top/?q=datsun%20pickup=content_filter=0.6612099121608328=typeahead On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 5:10 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or > unimproved, you need to recalibrate your

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My point precisely. If you think the Grand Canyon is forbidding, remote or unimproved, you need to recalibrate your definitions of those terms. If a bunch of Bedouin with no formal mechanical training can run these things in the open desert, to the near exclusion of any other sort of vehicle at

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I gave some serious thought to an xB when they first came out, but the dealers wouldn’t deal on them because of the demand. I figured it would be a good cheep commuter car. Only thing I didn’t care for was the dash and parts of the interior were really cheap and plasticky. -D > On Oct 15,

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
My next door neighbor traded his Taco a year or two ago when the dealer wanted to replace the transmission on it. I'm not sure how well maintained it was, but it was dealer serviced, not driven much, and until the last two years of its life the neighbor's fastidious ex boyfriend had a hand in

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Wow! Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. Randy On 15/10/2019 3:32 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be considered good? As long as a Mercedes? My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it (80

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread MG via Mercedes
Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be considered good? As long as a Mercedes? My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it (80 mph +). $22K for a 4 door 2wd with a lid on the bed. Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like George Bush? https://youtu.be/ljrIFqbmKp8 -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >> though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:07:11 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting > >even though it’s also cheap crap. > > I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name > starts with "Taco". As in, "Make me a

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2019-10-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even >though it’s also cheap crap. I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts with "Taco". Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even though it’s also cheap crap. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck > here in the US. >

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2019-10-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Given my understanding of the situation, getting _anything_ exotic would be stupid. Buy whatever 4wd that meets your needs that the region is dripping with, but avoiding lemon models, and Just Drive. Save the exotics for secondary toys. -- Jim ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly my point. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful > and less junky pickup. > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
How about Nissan and their Qashqai? Translation is supposedly, "A horse with a white forehead". Randy On 15/10/2019 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Acronym for Toyota Racing Development, I believe. Randy On 15/10/2019 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t that familiar with the English language or slang terms. -D ___

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2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A half junk Wrangler still brings $4-5000. Same price buys a much more useful and less junky pickup. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would do

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2019-10-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
He might find it a fair bit easier to find a 4Runner which would be about the same in running gear. I had a 95 which is the 2nd generation and apart from rusting, it was fairly decent. The 3rd generation has more power, and more interior space. If he can find one in AZ that might avoid the

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2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The VW Dasher and Quantum are other good examples of naming weirdness. Why they thought Americans wouldn't buy a Passat I'll never know... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have to wonder who came up with the “TRD” thing, as they probably weren’t that familiar with the English language or slang terms. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky >

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Back around 1970, J I Case had a proving ground near their backhoe and bulldozer plant at Burlington.  One of the guys who worked there drove a 220Sb.  The employees would have offroad races around the place.  Think motocross in a car.    The 220Sb won almost all the time, according to what he

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky and turd. Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM: Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables.

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
They sold the little crapboxes as hilux in the USA for decades.   The bowties renamed it tacky because the hilux had a reputation for melting into iron oxide before your eyes. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:28 AM: A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If the service aspect wasn’t an issue I would suggest an ML. I think they would do fairly well in that environment. Jeeps are stupid expensive. A coworker just bought a new one and it’s so tarted up I can’t imagine stuff staying in place if they took it off-road. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at

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2019-10-15 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. And they left the U out of TRD. Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR 1982 240D High Mileage Hildegard Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:29 AM,

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2019-10-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never stuck here in the US. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Again, read my original post. I would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent,

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I bet a Jeep Scrambler has future collector potential. Oops, they already want more than 20k for those things. Tell him to get a rusty ML55 and chop it down into a dune buggy. Mitch. > On October 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > He’s been in the pickup truck mode

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2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Depends on your definition of off road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUD4mSvZms > On October 15, 2019 at 9:51 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the > simplicity and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He’s been in the pickup truck mode for a while, but balks at considering anything domestic for some unknown reason. As I’ve mentioned before, a decent used domestic truck like a Ford, Chevy or Dodge would be ideal, as there would be no problem at all finding support for them in such a remote

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Got it. How about a Jeep Wrangler ? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely > rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the > time. No service

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We’re talking about using it in an area like northern Arizona. Extremely rugged, extremely rural. Not tooling around on improved roads much of the time. No service facilities or a place to work on it should something break. -D > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:55 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > >

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2019-10-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Why? My brother uses a 1989 w124 300TE non 4matic as a “work truck” and it’s one tough car. 330K miles, engine needs valve guides but he keeps driving it and adding oil, cleaning/replacing fouled plugs as needed. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >

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2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This time it was an aesthetics and functionality thing. He likes the simplicity and the styling of the W124, but thinks he can off road with 4Matic. I suggested a W210 4Matic, as they’re far more common, less expensive, and more reliable and easier to maintain. I pointed out that the original

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I hauled a lot of construction materials (including 80BF of dirty rough sawn cherry) in my mint interior 1999 4matic. Interior was far from mint after I had it a month. Only real problems I ever had with that car were dead fuel pump (inline and easy to swap), rusty brake lines, and HVAC

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks, Mitch. I messaged the link to him. I’m guessing he won’t follow up on it, there may already be a new “flavor of the week” at this point, haven’t heard. At least I was able to talk him out of a W124 wagon with 4Matic. He had some idea that it would be a good alternative to a 4WD pickup

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
$6k https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/D0C3D0C8-55D1-42C1-9703-14624BAF8CCB_png-1123526.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2019-10-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I like that. -D > On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That is so true. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. >>

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2019-10-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That is so true. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. > But if you spoil your kids you will raise your grandchildren. > >> -Original Message- >> From:

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2019-10-13 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Rick wrote: > Tell him "good luck with that". They are few and far between > here in the states. Try BaT. I thought the "Hi-Lux" was just the non-US name for "pickup". I suppose the US market pickups got different engine and trim and stuff, especially in recent years.

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2019-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I was gonna comment that he might be able to find one in the sandbox for cheap, but getting it in the country would be a problem. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:56 PM: On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Exactly. Hence the comment by Floyd early

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2019-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
How true! BTW, I prefer the former. DId.   Still don't.   The other grandparents do.  So I  introduce small doses of reality. Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 10:15 PM: I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. But if you spoil your kids you

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2019-10-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I read this recently: If you raise your kids you can spoil your grandkids. But if you spoil your kids you will raise your grandchildren. > -Original Message- > From: OK Don via Mercedes > > We were laughing our asses off when our most rebellious daughter called and > said "I'm

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2019-10-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Mock up a fake .50, get a black flag, and wrap black t-shirts around your head, and you've got a great Halloween float. Max Dillon Charleston SC Sun Oct 13 20:57:15 EDT 2019 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes : > Don’t forget the coupla skinnies to be the operators > > --FT > Sent from iPhone

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2019-10-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Don’t forget the coupla skinnies to be the operators --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Exactly. Hence the comment by Floyd early on about mounting a .50 in the back > and clearing commuters…. > > -D > > >> On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:27

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I hardly doubt that was the motivation. More likely to have come from something on an XBox 360 game… -D > On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not sure what’s so alluring about a terrorist or gypsy image! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 13, 2019, at

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2019-10-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Not sure what’s so alluring about a terrorist or gypsy image! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's probably part of the allure, like how some want an AK47 ... > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 6:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >

[MBZ] Toyota Hilux

2019-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. Hence the comment by Floyd early on about mounting a .50 in the back and clearing commuters…. -D > On Oct 13, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > That’s a truck that terrorists drive in the Middle East and gypsies drive in > Western Europe. Nasty. > > Sent from my

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2019-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's probably part of the allure, like how some want an AK47 ... On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 6:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s a truck that terrorists drive in the Middle East and gypsies drive > in Western Europe. Nasty. > > Sent from my iPhone > > >

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2019-10-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
That’s a truck that terrorists drive in the Middle East and gypsies drive in Western Europe. Nasty. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the > word out. No more

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
n the >> states. Try BaT. >>> When children get to be about 26-27 they say "gee dad, you sure got >> smarter in the last couple years". >>> >>> Hang in there dad, it will get better. >>> >>> https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-I-own-a-

Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
nt-I-own-a-Toyota-Hilux-in-America > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: October 13, 2019 7:59 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: d...@penoff.com > > Subject: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux? >

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2019-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Before or after the Coyote issues? I'm thinking he should aim at before. Definitely not during. Or buy Silverado. Mitch. > On October 13, 2019 at 3:01 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > He could an F150 for half as much as a Toyota, but whatever. He will learn. >

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2019-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Here. Send him this article. No I didn't read it all. Tacoma's are pretty pricey though, but a better alternative. He could an F150 for half as much as a Toyota, but whatever. He will learn. http://www.brian894x4.com/Hiluxdifferences.html Rick ___

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2019-10-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
True satisfaction as a parent is when you hold your grandchild, notice "that smell" that only emanates from a "blow out the sides dirty diaper" and hand the child to the formerly rebellious child, saying, with a smile, "your child needs changing" "I'm the grand parent, I only hug them, I don't

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2019-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We were laughing our asses off when our most rebellious daughter called and said "I'm becoming my mother!" She knew better than us about everything, including raising kids (we raised four, all independent now), then gradually can to realize that we were indeed right - about everything! On Sun,

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2019-10-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Are they south of the border? There are lots of cars in Mexico that we don't have here --- On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 11:57 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don’t think there’s anything wrong with one, but the likelihood of > finding one, even remotely decent, in North

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably, as the same platform was used for the trucks they sold here. That’s why I’m not shy a HiLux is even relevant. The trucks they sold here under different model names are nearly the same. More importantly, if he ends up staying out west permanently as he plans, having anything but a

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2019-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
c: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux? Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got. Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
be about 26-27 they say "gee dad, you sure got >> smarter in the last couple years". >>> >>> Hang in there dad, it will get better. >>> >>> https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-I-own-a-Toyota-Hilux-in-America >>> >>> >>> R

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2019-10-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
t couple years". > > > > Hang in there dad, it will get better. > > > > https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-I-own-a-Toyota-Hilux-in-America > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: October 13, 2019 7:59 AM > &g

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2019-10-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
He could book a trip to one of the garden spots in the ME and he could probably pick one up cheap with the proper, uh, negotiating techniques.  then ship it back --FT On 10/13/19 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I attempted to point out that the HiLux was never sold here in the same

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
ercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: October 13, 2019 7:59 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux? > > Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the > word out. No more details tha

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2019-10-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
ota-Hilux-in-America Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 13, 2019 7:59 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux? Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the word out. No more detai

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2019-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Plant the seed. Sometimes more than once.   Give it a gestation period.  Min. is a month, normally a year or more.   At the end of the gestation period, it is HIS idea, and therefore G O O D! Don't keep replanting the same seed.   If you do it never becomes G O O D. I guess they still sell

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Again, read my original post. I would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I mean. This too, will pass. -D > On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to >

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2019-10-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards to find what remains of one in most of the country.   Near the ocean they rusted top down. Elsewhere, bottom up. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM: Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and

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2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No doubt. He’s so all over the place I have no idea. He’s heading back out to AZ and the NPS the end of this month, so I suspect he’s got truck/4WD on the brain. I suggested some time ago when this was a subject that a good used Ford F150 would be a wise purchase and serve him well while being

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2019-10-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Is he going to mount a .50 in the bed and get a coupla skinnies to ride around with him in the back? It would clear the commute quite well. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has

[MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

2019-10-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got. Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a PM and I’ll pass it along. -D ___