A friend of mine made a hydrogen turbine engine out of a
turbocharger. It was quite impressive when it was running.
How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air in? Seems
it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the
shaft between the two
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes:
A friend of mine made a hydrogen turbine engine out of a turbocharger.
It was quite impressive when it was running.
Did he do anything useful with it?
Allan
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It was stage 1
For stage 2 he built a hydrogen turbine.
I'm not sure if he ever got to stage 3.
He also modified briggs engines to run on hydrogen
and modified briggs engines with fuel injection and had them meeting
CARB requirements for cars.
He was out riding his mountain bike and died
How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air in? Seems
it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the
shaft between the two compressor sections to me. A turbocharger is not a
heat engine.
Mike
On Jul 15, 2011 11:48 PM, andrew strasfogel
How is it that a turbo would use heat energy to stuff more air
in? Seems
it is transfering kinetic energy from the exhaust to the intake via the
shaft between the two compressor sections to me. A turbocharger is
not a
heat engine.
It is indeed a heat engine. You can rig up a combustion
Rule of physics. Energy can not be created or destroyed, it can only change
form.
Exhaust gasses are loaded with heat energy. The turbine wheel of the
turbo extracts that heat energy and converts it to mechanical energy.
Exhaust temperature measured down stream of the turbine side is cooler
G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes:
The mechanical energy [force] against the turbine wheel blades drive
[through a direct shaft connection] the compressor wheel. The compressor
wheel converts the mechanical energy of the turbine shaft into work energy
which compresses air [causing a
Point taken on the intercoolers.
thus the NEED for intercoolers was the comment, Needing and having are of
course not the same. The point being made was that there is a transfer of
energy through the turbocharger from form to form as it does it's work at
different components.
Sorry I wasn't
A turbocharger is not a heat engine.
_Everything_ automotive is a heat engine. :-)
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Sounds highly plausible, although he didn't say anything about leaks.
Folow-up question: With the turbo boost back to normal and power restored
in all gears and at all speeds, will this negatively effect my fuel economy?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Sounds highly plausible, although he didn't say anything about leaks.
Folow-up question: With the turbo boost back to normal and power restored
in all gears and at all speeds, will this negatively effect my fuel economy?
If you drive faster because of it, maybe.
If
the
transmission is shifting.
Scott
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Sounds highly plausible, although he didn't say anything about leaks.
Folow-up question
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:29 PM, andrew strasfogel
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He charged me for an hour of
labor, and wrote on the ticket: * Hop up mill; adjust trans*. When I
asked him what this meant (hop up mill) he was incredulous that I didn't
know and basically thought I was pulling
will this negatively effect my fuel economy?
Shouldn't, unless you just can't keep your foot out of the throttle while
you enjoy the blinding accelerations. :))
With the turbo working correctly you are now getting a much increased air
charge into the engine. More air in a diesel means more
I located him through the local referral groups. Has the highest user
ratings for getting the job done right, honesty, and fair pricing. Plus,
he's smart, sardonic, and entertaining enough to make me forgive his jibes
and jests.
Most importantly, he has been a 123 diesel owner and mechanic
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Folow-up question: With the turbo boost back to normal and
power restored in all gears and at all speeds, will this
negatively effect my fuel economy?
No. It will improve. Because the turbo increases the
efficiency of the engine.
Unless you use full power quite
I will now be tempted to, since the engine is now resposive to my foot
pressure. :)
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Folow-up question: With the turbo boost back to normal and
power restored in all gears and at all speeds, will this
He was giving you a line of BS, so that is why I, and others gave you more BS.
I figured he either blew out the turbo sense line or changed the fuel
filter. If he had changed the liter, I figured he would have charged
you for a filter. Since he didn't, I figured he blew out the sense
line.
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Folow-up question: With the turbo boost back to normal and
power restored in all gears and at all speeds, will this
negatively effect my fuel economy?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
No. It will improve. Because
G Mann wrote:
With the turbo working correctly you are now getting a much
increased air charge into the engine.
Correct.
More air in a diesel means more power with a moderate increase in fuel.
Not so correct. :) Except an wide-open, max power a diesel
engine always has an excess of air.
I stand ever so humbly corrected.
So when a diesel engine is under load and over fueled and makes loads of
black smoke due to unburned fuel there is still an excess of air just along
for the ride
Sorry, with all respect, does not compute in my world of reality and diesel
experience.
So, if
Over-fueling makes horrendous amounts of smoke, for sure. However,
unless there is a pressure driven regulator (or the fuel injection
system is set to deliver way too much fuel), simply adding a turbo to
a NA engine results in only a small increase in power output. The
increase in
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The amount of fuel injected on mechanically governed engines is
controlled by the governor (inside the IP as a rule) along with a
mechanical over-ride to permit max fuel when the governor doesn't
think it's needed. On electronically controlled engines, it's the
computer. Diesel engines
To make matters yet more complicated, I drive a CA version 1985 300TD with
the trap oxidizer, deigned to reduce emissions (soot). How does this factor
into the equation?
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
The amount of fuel injected on mechanically
So I ended up taking it in to my mechanic, because the 1985 300TD had no
power (especially with AC running), shifted lousy, lost its mojo at 1800 rpm
@ 38 mph, and generally acted like a non-aspirated non-turbo diesel.
Turns out there really was nothing broken. He charged me for an hour of
He adjusted the intake vacuum flamulator, hopped up the engine
injection rate, and adjusted the transmission vacuum modulator
So I ended up taking it in to my mechanic, because the 1985 300TD had no
power (especially with AC running), shifted lousy, lost its mojo at 1800 rpm
@ 38 mph, and
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
He adjusted the intake vacuum flamulator, hopped up the engine injection
rate, and adjusted the transmission vacuum modulator
Probably adjusted the muffler bearings and added blinker fluid too.
Rick
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
He adjusted the intake vacuum flamulator, hopped up the engine injection
rate,
and adjusted the transmission vacuum modulator
Probably adjusted the muffler bearings and added
too ashamed to admit my ignorance [Hop up mill] and plead for an
explanation,
Probably fixed pressure leaks on the line from the intake
manifold to the injection pump, which prevented the IP from
thinking there was any turbo boost so it didn't fuel as much
as it needed to/could have.
-- Jim
What is the purpose of this device in a W123 turbodiesel? More importantly,
how do you know (e.g., what are the symptoms) when it isn't working?
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex,I am in awe of your brilliant, clear and patient explanation.
Glad to help. Looking back at what I wrote I shouldn't have been so
flippant about the process of testing the BFS. It's not that you
can't, just
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