The bottom line is that they know most of us can do it too but there are
enough jerks and incompetents out there to make it unsafe for all of us
to do so and rather than ticket the ones who are not good at it, they
choose to prevent all of us from doing so. I guess it is sort of like
racial
So why can cops (et al) manage to drive and talk on the phone while the
rest of us are classed as homicidal maniacs if we blah blah on the mobile?
I know some may say they have advanced driver training but there is no
law I am aware of that gives you an exemption if you have completed an
the same exemption for cops (and some Emergency Services workers) to use
cell phones while driving exists in at least some US states as well.
the premise is that there is some information they'd rather not
share on airwaves where people can listen in as easily (even though it's
not as
Funnily enough a cop over here is allowed to use his mobile phone whilst
driving (I think there are some other exemptions).
Obviously they are trained to do this.
Hendrik
who may or may not have used a mobile phone whilst driving
Mitch Haley wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:
I take my camera with me
So, to start with, I know, I am a lawyer so why am I asking you folks??
I don't know and am wondered if any of you might know is the basic answer.
Anyone actually look at the laws, regulations, whatever, that impose the
fines for use of cell phones in your jurisdiction?
The reason I ask is
As you say, you're the lawyer, but I would imagine the argument could be
made, that any device that distracts you from the task at hand is a no-no.
Texting is not allowed here, and operating a digital cam involves similar
hand movements.
On the flip side, if the law is only against talking on the
Not specifically illegal here in SC but the cops can get you for
reckless driving, which can be construed to be about anything they want
it to be. Crash reports have a box to check for cell-phone as a factor,
or inattentive driving, and other things that could be related to
texting, yapping,
Tell us more. How did you get photos and how did you convince the
high Shire Riff?
I take my camera with me sometimes, and have busted 2 deputies for
1) tailgaiting and speeding and 2) speeding (65 in 50 zone). The
Sheriff was not amused at his guys' behavior when I emailed the
photos to
My belief is that any resistance costs them money. If the rewards
are diminished by expenses, they are less likely to seek this revenue
stream. So, My policy is to take every delay, every protest, every
appeal that I can afford in order to discourage the various
constabularies from issuing
Guess it would be pretty hard to tick those boxes on a crash report, unless
the crash was witnessed. Can't imagine anyone saying, oh yeah, I hit the
pole as I was checking my messages. hee hee
I have to say, the cops around here on the whole are pretty decent and
fair. You see the odd one
Rich Thomas wrote:
I take my camera with me sometimes, and have busted 2 deputies for 1)
tailgaiting and speeding and 2) speeding (65 in 50 zone). The Sheriff
was not amused at his guys' behavior when I emailed the photos to him.
I've had a judge tell me, on the record (with a court
Dieselhead wrote:
My belief is that any resistance costs them money. If the rewards are
diminished by expenses, they are less likely to seek this revenue
stream. So, My policy is to take every delay, every protest, every
appeal that I can afford in order to discourage the various
I snapped pics that showed (somewhat out of focus, but readable) my
speedo and the cop car ahead (from which the license plate was
visible). The first one was going about 55 in a 45 zone, about 8ft off
the bumper of the car ahead. I pointed out this guy had passed me (as I
was going the
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Dieselhead wrote:
My belief is that any resistance costs
why ask? because you don't know the laws in every state. fair enough; i
wouldn't expect most people do, or need to!
in California, VC Section 23123 specifies using a wireless
telephone... i doubt you could be held to fault under that section of
the code for using it as a camera any more
Greg Fiorentino wrote:
...it's an incentive for the cops themselves to write the tickets, as they
get paid overtime to sit comfortably in court.
I'm sure their bosses don't like it when they have a high rate of spending
time in court and losing, so they can't do this too often or things will
Having lived for 65 years in what may be the most corrupt state in the U.S.;
(Since 2000 Florida had the most, [729], federal corruption convictions of
any state with second place New York far behind with only 633); we
Floridians don't necessarily obey onerous laws to the letter. We find ways
Well, my car is in the garage for the duration of the cold weather so
not much to do on it for a bit. I did buy a new set of H4 headlights for
it and will install them come spring. May even go the route of relays
and higher wattage bulbs if the H4's that I have are not a significant
I just remembered, my old 300E had a mercedes (dealer installed?) built in
phone when I got it, along with a hands free mic on the A pillar. The hard
wiring for the antenna, and wire that's hidden behind the A pillar remain,
but I yanked out the phone as soon as I got it. I did the same with my
Car phones as opposed to the alternative, Bag phones.
I just remembered, my old 300E had a mercedes (dealer installed?) built in
phone when I got it, along with a hands free mic on the A pillar. The hard
wiring for the antenna, and wire that's hidden behind the A pillar remain,
but I yanked
Dieselhead wrote:
Car phones as opposed to the alternative, Bag phones.
About twenty years ago, I heard about a $10 a month (includes ten free minutes
of talk) deal and wanted them to sell me a used car phone and a used bag phone,
cloning them so I could use whichever one I wanted at any
I got a kick out of seeing one of the old bag phones when I was watching The
Big Lebowski the other night
The Dude abides.
Dan
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fines for use of cell phone without hands
In North Carolina, the no-texting law was intentionally designed to
only ban forms of written communication - text messages, e-mail,
instant messages - where there was a recipient on the other end. It
is discussed in the law that it allows other forms of typing that do
not have a communicative
) but otherwise I'm quite pleased with it.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:45:30 -0500
From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] fines for use of cell phone without hands free
device??
Message-ID: E3607BDE4C4E4EB1A81D6DD65D12F8D9
When I was a kid my dad bought this little transistor radio that had cop
frequencies on it along with AM and FM. It also picked up mobile
phones, which at that time were these huge affairs that took up about 3
cuft and had a full-size corded handset. I recall there was this one
guy I would
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