Damn, stuff just doesn't last like it used to. You'd think that a
seal would last a bit longer then just 30 years. Especially when
the manufacturer says to use ATF.
Manfred
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:27:53 -0600
From: Peter Frederick
There are rumors that ATF in any version will eat the seal
I don't believe that. Worn out seals will leak with any color.
The 300TE had the tandem pump seals worn out due to being run dry for
quite a while. A kit and new seals fixed it. the 35 year old pump in
the 240D weeps. It has 35 years and a few 100K miles on it, so I think
it has served adm
There are rumors that ATF in any version will eat the seals out of the
PS pump.
My "new" 300D lost one a few years back, and the fluid was pink.
Peter
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I use the Febi equivalent in my '95 E300 (and I use whatever ATF bottle is
open on the shelf for my '87 wagon), which I think is like $7 or $9 per
liter. At my dealer I think they charged me $12 or $15 when I had to get
some of the 000 989 88 03 quickly.
Febi 08972 is "recommended" for use in sys
Wow! Really?
I think the last liter I bought at the dealer was like $12, if that.
Dan
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> On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of
> distinction in the garage.
>
> Bob R
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> >>>> 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid
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> >>>>>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >>>>> mercedes@
egative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not
>>>> have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>
>>>>>From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>>>> To: Merc
r steering if the engine does not
> >> have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >>> Cc: Bob Rentf
t;> Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not
>> have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Cc: Bob Rentf
om: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Bob Rentfro
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:28 AM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
> >
> > I need to top off the power steering f
ine does not have
> a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
>
> -Curt
>
> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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> Cc: Bob Rentfro
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:28 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
>
> I need t
That's what I use.
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> On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no?
> Would Mobil 1 ATF be an acceptable topping off fluid?
>
> Bob R
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
>
> Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid
> Bob R
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> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt R
r 7, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid
Bob R
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not have a
serpentine belt. MB has
ng if the engine does not
>> have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Bob Rentfro
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:28 AM
>> Subject:
..
>
> -Curt
>
> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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> Cc: Bob Rentfro
> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:28 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
>
> I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no?
&
Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not have a
serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that...
-Curt
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Subject: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid
I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no?
Would Mobil 1 ATF be an acceptable topping off fluid?
Bob R
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Thanks Gary -
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry
On 2/9/2014 8:42 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T wrote:
Hi All,
I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from Rusty or the MB
dealer
that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from Rusty or the MB
> dealer several years ago. It's FEBI (Bilstein) # 08972 and it says it is
> to be
Hi All,
I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from Rusty or the
MB dealer several years ago. It's FEBI (Bilstein) # 08972 and it says
it is to be used for Specs;
MB 236.3,
Dexron II,
Voith 55-6335, (Standard Drain) &
ZF TE - ML 09, 11, 14A, 03D, 04D & 17k.
Does anyone kno
Yes, and I'm pretty confident that your PSF, if not too old, would work fine.
Max
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Allan Streib wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, "Max Dillon" wrote:
> Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, "Max Dillon" wrote:
> Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle
> linkage.
Older cars use ATF for power steering, no?
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Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle
linkage.
Max
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Jerry Herrman wrote:
It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the
garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
Mix with acetone, use on stuck bolts.
Walt
On Aug 24, 2011 11:22 PM, "Jerry Herrman" wrote:
> It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in
the garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
> Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands.
Never used eve
Most petroleum fluids are hydroscopic, so chances are they have already
absorbed enough water to make then worthless :D
-Rolf
On 8/24/2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:
It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the
garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
Let's sta
It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the
garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands. Never
used even one. (Please don't ask why I acquired them).They are the "one size
fits all" type, claiming
E M wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good brand of PS fluid, or best to just pick up the
MB brand?
With the cost of a new Vickers pump, I'd buy a bottle or two of MBZ stuff every
five years.
Mitch.
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> - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
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ssion List"
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No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the
same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much
less after a year of proper PS fluid.
The W123 chassis used A
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the
> same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much
> less after a year of proper PS fluid.
>
> The W123 chassis used ATF.
I call
>>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
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Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 8:34 PM
I think the change occured with the W126 chassis in 1981 -- anything
later than that, use PS fluid, not ATF.
Older pumps are clearly marked "Use A
le leak, I replaced it and the
new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600
From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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C
What about the 201? Mine had a terrible leak, I replaced it and the new one
hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600
From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??
To: Mercedes Discussion
No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the
same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much
less after a year of proper PS fluid.
The W123 chassis used ATF.
Pete
On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, E M wrote:
Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124 gass
Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124 gasser, you can use Mobil 1 ATF
for the power steering, correct?
It's snowing here, and I have a few things on the list, but changing
steering fluid is as motivated as I can get today.
I seem to remember, suck out what you can, add while turning the steer
Donald & others,
Imagine the shock that I got when @ 171,176
miles, I removed a Ceramic cylindrical sleeve. I guess this is the orignal
filter
??!! Anyway I flushed and filled with Dextron II ATF with new filter [per MB
guy]. I did this Oct.2005 [ 83 240D]
Kaleb wrote:
"Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the
car."
I thought it was strange too. But, I looked through the repair orders
from the dealer and there was nothing related to the power steering.
They (the dealership) flushed the break fluid 3 times in 27 mont
Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car.
Donald Snook wrote:
I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long
it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change it
.
Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
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From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change
I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter
Donald Snook wrote:
I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long
it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change it out.
The total volume of power steering fluid in your 126 is 1.3 liter
Can't recall 126s, but on my 123 it only took .5L to do a full flush of the
steering box. Don't think it should take more than a liter to do the whole
thing on a 126.
On 1/31/06, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
> Rust
I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long
it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change it out.
Donald H. Snook
1990 300SEL 123k
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