Re: [MBZ] Crappy fuel, was: Absolutely pathetic fuel economy

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
It is time for winter mix fuel to appear in most northern states, too -- less dense, so you get worse milage. We had a rash of bad (dirty) off-road fuel about six years ago in the Indiana/Kentucky/Illinois area -- I did several different analyses for people with samples of fuel with strange

Re: [MBZ] Clicking noises from behind glovebox

2005-11-19 Thread Dave M.
Hi Aaron, I've heard what you describe and I agree that the source of the noise is the 7-port vacuum manifold. However I have *no* idea if it's the manifold itself that's the problem, or if it's getting an erratic, or weak, signal from the ACC brain (pushbutton unit). I'd love to hear if anyone

Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings?

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
They are shot, they die of old age. If you want to check, look for ANY space between bar and bushing. They fit, when new, by compression and there should be NO clearance at all. Also check the brackets for the body mounts -- they tend to fracture and rattle. Cheap and easy to replace, but

[MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been run in as long. I want to make an attempt to start it this weekend. I did put the 27mm socket on the crank pully, and it feels normal. The coolant shows no sign of contamination and the oil level is right

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
I'd fire her up, get her warmed up and change the oil. Might take a look at the brakefluid. If you had diesel in the tank, a dose of algae killer will be no waste. On 11/18/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Ah, I remember those things! The WERE a redesign of an existing gasoline engine (not a converted one, but based on existing designs), and on top of the problems you describe they had a distressing tendency, at least in the early ones, to spin a rear main bearing every 25,000 miles or so. I

Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings?

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Bad control arm bushing will make the front tires wear badly and prevent a shop from performing a decent front end alignment. Fairly easy to tell, as the control arm will move at the pivot end in directions other than on axis. The noise will be similar to bad sway bar bushing ends except for

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
I'm planning on removing fuel lines and having a small container of D to run the car on, similar to running Dpurge through the system. On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:31:06 -0600, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd fire her up, get her warmed up and change the oil. Might take a look at

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been run in as long. I want to make an attempt to start it this weekend. I did put the 27mm socket on the crank pully, and it feels normal. The coolant shows no sign of contamination and the

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: I'm planning on removing fuel lines and having a small container of D to run the car on, similar to running Dpurge through the system. Good (maybe GREAT) plan! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor

Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings?

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Ball joints are cheap, installation on the W124 isn't bad, and driving with the front wheel unattached is often lethal. Replace if at ALL in doubt, they usually have excessive play long before they die. Squeaks on turning the wheel is either ball joints or steering linkage, nothing else is

Re: [MBZ] Clicking noises from behind glovebox

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the condition of the interior temp sampler motor -- having a bad motor or loose hose will cause temperature mode switching (you are hearing the solenoid for the mode switch). A shot of contact cleaner on the rheostat for the temp control won't hurt, either -- did both on the TE and the

Re: [MBZ] Absolutely pathetic fuel economy

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote: Timing chain life is seldom LESS than 200kmi (should about be double that if you use Mobil synthetics) unless you don't change the oil when it's dirty! That the speedometer was worked on a few years ago does NOT insure it's accuracy now. You need to measure it. A road

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been run in as long. I want to make an attempt to start it this weekend. I did put the 27mm socket on the crank pully, and it feels normal. The coolant shows no sign of contamination and the oil level is right between

Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
The 5.0 mustangs were that way as well. But not so my 5.0 Camaro. It's got a tall fifth gear that will get it to 143, past redline in fourth. But it will not get to redline in fifth, of course. I raced my brother's 5.0 same-year Mustang, and whupped him. Twice. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 300CD

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
1. Is the 1985 really that much more desireable because it was the last year? Marginally. They're a little quicker, something to do with changing the torque converter for a higher stall speed. More slip for a faster launch. To me, any turbo'd D with a VDO ACC system is equally

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 05:25:50PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote: The frankenheap sat for 10 years, and all I did was put a battery on it and start it. After checking the oil and rolling over the engine by hand, as you did. How is the heap these days? Good to have you around, Jim. K

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
How is the heap these days? Dormant. (I _did_ fix the clock.) With no job, I don't really need my winter beater commuter car (_yet_, one hopes). -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Clicking noises

2005-11-19 Thread RELNGSON
The car doesn't have be old to develop this fault. My '85 190E started the click-click routine when it was nearly new and it was an AC component behind the glove box. Seems like it was called a changeover valve but that may be wrong. Just one of dozens of warranty claims. Why not just remove

Re: [MBZ] Clicking noises

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The car doesn't have be old to develop this fault. My '85 190E started the click-click routine when it was nearly new and it was an AC component behind the glove box. Seems like it was called a changeover valve but that may be wrong. Just one of dozens of warranty

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread B Dike
Luther, Here's what I would do: First I would remove the valve cover and drip oil over all the cams and rocker arms. I read this in a MB manual somewhere. Then I would run the starter with the GP relay disconnected until the oil pressure needle started to rise. Then I would fire it

Re: [MBZ] idle insanity! Part II (Part I solved)

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes Christopher McCann wrote: what is a low cylinder...low compression? Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ohhh, ok Christopher McCann wrote: we had it set too low...that was the first problem, stalling in reverse (esp when cold) or stalling in reverse when A/C is on when hot

Re: [MBZ] LWB 123 picture

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
info on what? BillR wrote: What ?? Picks of an old chevy, but no picks of the rare 123 LWB yet? Where are your priorities? I guess I'll have to do it for him There must be something of a story with that one. It looks like a great car. Where can I get some info on it?

[MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
help me compile a list of the rubber suspension/hoses/belts/etc parts that will probably need replacing when they deteriorate in a 123. I'm curious to see what this list would look like. Radiator hoses belts shock mounts engine shock mounts engine mounts transmission mount differential

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea like i was saying I heard those were not really that bad ones the problems were worked out with them, and the improper training had alot to do with it. Smith, Todd wrote: Hello, This is one area that I know a little something about since I have followed these diesels for years. In the

Re: [MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread OK Don
Door, window, windshield, and trunk seals. Tires Valve stems Wiper blades an anti-depressive On 11/18/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: help me compile a list of the rubber suspension/hoses/belts/etc parts that will probably need replacing when they deteriorate in a 123. I'm curious

[MBZ] 123 LWB info

2005-11-19 Thread BillR
Message: 23 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:36:32 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] LWB 123 picture To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed info on what? BillR wrote: What

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread OK Don
Why is it that EVERYONE is always either demanding training, or blaming the lack of training? Can't anyone read and think anymore??? On 11/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea like i was saying I heard those were not really that bad ones the problems were worked out with them,

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread redghost
Glad to see you Jim! On Friday, November 18, 2005, at 05:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been run in as long. I want to make an attempt to start it this weekend. I did put the 27mm socket on the crank pully, and it feels

Re: [MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread B Dike
Tires Wiper blades Windshield and rear window seals Radio antenna grommet Breather hoses Turbo oil return line seal Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: help me compile a list of the rubber suspension/hoses/belts/etc parts that will probably need replacing when they deteriorate

Re: [MBZ] oil level (or lack of)

2005-11-19 Thread Chuck Landenberger
John, I don't know about making this a responsibility of the 13 year old, but, as a long time subscriber to this list, I grant you absolution for your oversight Take care... but don't let it happen again! :) Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Nov 18, 2005, at 3:40 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings?

2005-11-19 Thread brian toscano
You could remove the sway bar and see if the noise goes away. :) Sway bar bushings usually clunk going over rail road tracks and things like that. Bushings are hard to test and are often misdiagnosed. Its important to remember that AGE also kills rubber - its not just the miles. We don't drive

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Chuck Landenberger
HUH On Nov 18, 2005, at 8:49 PM, OK Don wrote: Why is it that EVERYONE is always either demanding training, or blaming the lack of training? Can't anyone read and think anymore??? On 11/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea like i was saying I heard those were not really

Re: [MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread OK Don
All the vacuum operated diaphragms - doors, ACC, fuel shut off ACC air control flap seals 1897 o-rings in various places axle boots ball joint boots exhaust system doughnuts suspension limit bumpers On 11/18/05, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tires Wiper blades Windshield and rear window

[MBZ] Spare tire - was 124 Sway Bar Bushings?

2005-11-19 Thread OK Don
Good point Brian - I recently pulled the spare tire (don't know how old it is, but the tire and rim look un-used) from the trunk of the '78 450SLC, and replaced one rear tire with it. I only set the wheel on the drive, did not drive it (engine is still out). A chunk of inner sidewall has a large

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread OK Don
Sorry - personal pet peeve. Comes all the weenies at work who can't do ANYTHING without being sent to training first. Just a Moose Friday thing -- -- On 11/18/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HUH On Nov 18, 2005, at 8:49 PM, OK Don wrote: Why is it that EVERYONE is

Re: [MBZ] idle insanity! Part II (Part I solved)

2005-11-19 Thread Christopher McCann
well, possible. When I first bought the SD, I had the compression checked - all was fine but for one...but it turned out that the valve was sticking pretty good, so that PROBABLY solved that - never tested compression again. Oddly, with the oidle having been adjusted up for a day now, the

Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock actuator on vacation ('93 W124)

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall wrote:The 124/126/201 central locking systems are powered by an electric vacuum pump and seem to fail FAR less often Hmmm I wonder how difficult it would be to install a vacuum pump in-line with the main vacuum system? Surely the electrical system

Re: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with failed charging sys?

2005-11-19 Thread Vernon Ritchey
In my recent experience, the answer is until (1) fuel is gone, or (2) it gets dark, or (3) you can't stand the mono valve full open any longer. Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC 1982 300 SD 225K miles 1979 300 TD 355K miles

[MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Steve MacSween
The question is in the subject line Actually there is another option too: local VW shop sells VW accessory oil pan heaters that are paper thin and glued to the bottom of the pan (after thorough cleaning, of course) with a special paste. Cost for this is about the same as the block heater. No

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread PONDERSOA
G,M. .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] this company is incredible they make some of the best desigines for all matter of stuff i replaced a few of thoes gm diesel motors with chevy gas engines one fella bought a 70 400 ci engine that was in some kids nova and we put it in a coupe deville ...with

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985 some some MB di...

2005-11-19 Thread PONDERSOA
man i havent heard that in a hunderd years that was doen to control preignition in gas engines ...did it work ? i had a car that ran 10 to 1 compression ratio i never tried it how ever i did and still do add 1 qt to the oil and drive for 100 mi or so before changing atf has a lot of

Re: [MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
So, if Don counted the 1897 O-rings correctly, that is over 2,000 pieces, counting 47 vac. Tees and Xes. On 11/18/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the vacuum operated diaphragms - doors, ACC, fuel shut off ACC air control flap seals 1897 o-rings in various places axle boots ball

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
If you are concerned about getting oil to all the bearings first, just keep the manual Stop lever pushed while cranking it with a boost charger hooked to the battery. On 11/18/05, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, Here's what I would do: First I would remove the valve cover and drip oil

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
Chill man, I think he was referring to GM's lack of training with their technitions on the GM diesels. sorry in my opinion they were converted gas engines and go along with GM's other bright ideas like the V8-6-4 they had in the caddy... and GM tried to make a diesel out of something that

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
Wasn't that the old reliable 350ci motor they converted and called a Giesel with that crappy rotary IP stuck down the distributor hole, that lasted 40k miles max. On 11/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chill man, I think he was referring to GM's lack of training with their

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
that very same one, and if the temp dropped below 50F you better have a can of ether around 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
If you have a JC Whitney around they sell what they call the Zero Start that connects to a hose and it heats and circulates the coolant. Not sure what hose it connects to though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Hans Neureiter
The Zero Start plumbs into the heater hoses and sets you back about $ 55. If you keep the heater fan running, it be nice and cozy in the car on a cold morning. Whitney also sells the oilpan pad heaters. About $ 45. On 11/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a JC Whitney

[MBZ] Where are you Joe Knight, HELP

2005-11-19 Thread Harry Watkins
Hope all is well with you, don't see you on the list now days. I want to buy a ball joint tool for the lowers on my SDL and I seem to recall you knew of a low cost one. Where I live there are very few shops with MB experience and not many MBs. I would have to travel 80 miles to a dealer and

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Steve MacSween wrote: Actually there is another option too: local VW shop sells VW accessory oil pan heaters that are paper thin and glued to the bottom of the pan But does that do any good other than thinning the oil? I'm thinking the head and cylinders would still be stone cold.

Re: [MBZ] Where to pick up electrical source, '93 300D

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
its usually best to find accessory source in your fuse box that is switched. There should be some open spaces in your fuse box. Its the safest way to go because if you are going to draw extra power you will need to add a fuse to protect your wiring and electrical system 69 280 SEL 120,000

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
they don't really thin the oil, what they do is keep the oil warmed enough where it will flow, but not to much where it will thin out. I had a heating pad, what I call it on my older VW and the oil temp usually stayed around 75 F even when it was -10 outside 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thick oil is one issue. It slows down cranking until you can't develop enough heat to start the engine. A cold engine is a second, and most often secondary issue. But a cold engine is usually a problem with a tired engine or low battery. The third issue that almost no one thinks about is a cold

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Oil at 75F is a lot thinner than oil at -10F. In other words, the heater thins the oil to where it wuld be at 75F. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread mykd1
it doesn't really thin it out, more like keeps it from getting cold and thick like molasses 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
OK, it's a matter of symantics. Oil at 75F is thinner than oil at -10F, but I guess you are referring to when oil gets very thin, lets say at 220F? But thinner is thinner... Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with failed charging sys?

2005-11-19 Thread Trampas
When brushes go bad alternator/battery light will not come on. To temporarily fix problem hit alternator with a broom stick, hammer handle, etc. This will give you another 50-60 miles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:34:16 -0500 Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is in the subject line Actually there is another option too: local VW shop sells VW accessory oil pan heaters that are paper thin and glued to the bottom of the pan (after thorough cleaning, of

Re: [MBZ] Where to pick up electrical source, '93 300D

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Where's the best place to find switched and unswitched power? The fuse box looks too tidy to disturb... Probably irrelevant, but on a SDL there is an auxiliary power distribution panel under the driver's footrest. Your car may have something similar. That said, adding a ring terminal

Re: [MBZ] Where to pick up electrical source, '93 300D

2005-11-19 Thread Mike Canfield
The fuse box is intended for power distribution but to keep things tidy you want to get power from somewhere else? To put it plainlyDo you look at the fusebox every day to see if it is tidy? Use the part of the car like it is intended and it will perform as expected. That's kinda like

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
go for it dude Gary Hurst wrote: a very interesting post about a car i've always flirted with getting. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Actually there is another option too: local VW shop sells VW accessory oil pan heaters that are paper thin and glued to the bottom of the pan (after thorough cleaning, of course) with a special paste. Cost for this is about the same as the block heater. The chicken wagon came with one of

Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock actuator on vacation ('93 W124)

2005-11-19 Thread Lee Levitt
David wrote: Lee Levitt wrote: I just realized that my trunk *should* be locking/unlocking with the driver's door. Well, it's not. Other locks operate as expected. What should I be looking at? Disconnected line or broken mechanism? Most likely it's a bad or disconnected

[MBZ] And another electrical question...blowing brake light bulb '93 300D

2005-11-19 Thread Lee Levitt
Grrr... My car keeps blowing the center brake light bulb. Other two brake light bulbs are fine...this one blows the bulb immediately. Any thoughts? The joys of buying a car from someone less fanatical than me. Grrr... TIA, Lee '93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K

Re: [MBZ] FS: 1985 300CD (LONG)

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
where are you located anyways? Smith, Todd wrote: Hello Tony, I have no evidence that the master cylinder has been recently replaced. As several others on this list have mentioned, the PO ran the car into the ground and then dumped it. I had purchased the car to replace my gas car and as

Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny

2005-11-19 Thread tom savage
Kevin wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:38:50PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote: That's not uncommon on cars where 5th is a tall overdrive and top speed is drag-limited instead of governed. In 5th gear the engine may be too far behind the torque peak to overcome the aerodynamic resistance at

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
wouldnt be surprised if you have to tow start it. Luther Gulseth wrote: my '82 300D hasn't been titled in at least 10 years, and probably hasn't been run in as long. I want to make an attempt to start it this weekend. I did put the 27mm socket on the crank pully, and it feels normal. The

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
I don't know if I trust wheels and brake system yet On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:16:30 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouldnt be surprised if you have to tow start it. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black

Re: [MBZ] WAKE UP FOLKS, Euro 85 300D manny tranny

2005-11-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:12:21 -0600 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: Someone please correct me (I left engineering and went into econ for a reason), but I believe that aerodynamic drag increases with the square of velocity, while the power needed to overcome that drag

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Gary Thompson
Good to see you back, Jim. Hadn't seen a post from you in a while! I miss the Chicken Wagon Chronicles... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D On 11/19/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The chicken wagon came with one of these...

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a problem. Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't know if I trust wheels and brake system yet On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:16:30 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wouldnt be surprised if you have to tow start it. --

[MBZ] ebay auction of the week

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-PRETTY-GOOD-RUNNING-CAR_W0QQitemZ4591617447QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74

Re: [MBZ] 123 rubber car parts

2005-11-19 Thread tom savage
Luther Gulseth wrote: help me compile a list of the rubber suspension/hoses/belts/etc parts that will probably need replacing when they deteriorate in a 123. You're putting too much thought into this. When it comes to rubber and cars as old as a w123, the list is generally as follows:

[MBZ] nice 2.5 turbo

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Diesel-1992-Mercedes-300D-2-5-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4590286513QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Jim Cathey
why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a problem. For a _tow_ start!? Yeah, you'd want brakes all right. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
with a 2 wheel dolly you dont Jim Cathey wrote: why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a problem. For a _tow_ start!? Yeah, you'd want brakes all right. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor:

[MBZ] lt don needs this

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280e-77-280e-73k-mi-excellent-condition-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4590284535QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76

[MBZ] 190D

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-190D-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4590933660QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
if i had a good truck On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:05:10 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with a 2 wheel dolly you dont Jim Cathey wrote: why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a problem. For a _tow_ start!? Yeah, you'd want brakes all right. --

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you are not much of a man without a big truck Luther Gulseth wrote: if i had a good truck On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:05:10 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with a 2 wheel dolly you dont Jim Cathey wrote: why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
Why don't you donate your Chev truck to the cause then? You've got a burb back now On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:25:49 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not much of a man without a big truck Luther Gulseth wrote: if i had a good truck On Sat, 19 Nov 2005

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Gary Hurst
i have no money :( On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: go for it dude Gary Hurst wrote: a very interesting post about a car i've always flirted with getting. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81

Re: [MBZ] lt don needs this

2005-11-19 Thread LT Don
A gasser Actually, it isn't located too far from where Megan might go to college. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: GM (Oldsmobile) 5.7L and 4.3L diesels 1979-1985

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
sell me one of your cars dude Gary Hurst wrote: i have no money :( On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: go for it dude Gary Hurst wrote: a very interesting post about a car i've always flirted with getting. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87

Re: [MBZ] lt don needs this

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
see, there ya go. perfect car for her. LT Don wrote: A gasser Actually, it isn't located too far from where Megan might go to college. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So you want to buy my very powerful 6.5 turbodiesel dually? Luther Gulseth wrote: Why don't you donate your Chev truck to the cause then? You've got a burb back now On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:25:49 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not much of a man without a

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heater for an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: The question is in the subject line Actually there is another option too: local VW shop sells VW accessory oil pan heaters that are paper thin and glued to the bottom of the pan (after thorough cleaning, of course) with a special paste. Cost for this is about the same

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it doesn't really thin it out, more like keeps it from getting cold and thick like molasses If engine oil doesn't thin out more at 70 deg F than at -10, then the laws of physics have been violated! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
where do you get BUY from DONATE?? On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:09:01 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you want to buy my very powerful 6.5 turbodiesel dually? Luther Gulseth wrote: Why don't you donate your Chev truck to the cause then? You've got a burb back

Re: [MBZ] lt don needs this

2005-11-19 Thread LT Don
Let me see how her scholarship applications play out first. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, there ya go. perfect car for her. LT Don wrote: A gasser Actually, it isn't located too far from where Megan might go to college. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread LT Don
Real don't NEED a big truck to compensate. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are not much of a man without a big truck -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

Re: [MBZ] And another electrical question...blowing brake light bulb '93 300D

2005-11-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Lee Levitt wrote: Grrr... My car keeps blowing the center brake light bulb. Other two brake light bulbs are fine...this one blows the bulb immediately. Any thoughts? The joys of buying a car from someone less fanatical than me. Grrr... The center high mount stop lamp has an isolated (not

[MBZ] looking for book keeping software, quickbooks

2005-11-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Need something to keep books with. Am I correct quickbooks is the best? Where is the cheapest place to get it? Ebay? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: why would you need brakes? If the tires hold air dont see a problem. Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't know if I trust wheels and brake system yet On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:16:30 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wouldnt be surprised if you

Re: [MBZ] looking for book keeping software, quickbooks

2005-11-19 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: Need something to keep books with. Am I correct quickbooks is the best? Where is the cheapest place to get it? Ebay? SQL-Ledger. It's open source - and free unless you want a manual or service contract. I've been running it for about 4 years now. Good

Re: [MBZ] looking for book keeping software, quickbooks

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
www.softwaremedia.com Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:21 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] looking for book

Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line coolant circulating heaterfor an OM616 or 617?

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Ditto. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:17 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions? Block heater vs. in-line

[MBZ] New w107 owner

2005-11-19 Thread Joesasser2
Hey there, we got another gasser last night, a Euro '72 450SL. Needs a few things done to it, but overall a good buy. I read that these engines are supposed to be pretty tough, and this one's only got 169k on it. It's got ac cruise, the fan still works, but haven't gotten the hood open

Re: [MBZ] engine hibernation wakeup

2005-11-19 Thread Mike Canfield
If you try tow starting with no brakes on the towed car be sure to use the same make and model for a tow car so you can use the front and rear ends to make a new car after you rear end the one you are towing with. There is a reason some animals eat thier young. Mike - Original Message

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