Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Whatever you say, I guess I am wrong. I have half a dozen of those cars here at any given moment and they all start in 1st. I have had 50+ of both turbo, non turbo, and gas cars, over the last 15 years and all the turbo cars started in 1st, non turbo started in 2nd, with first gear start via

Re: [MBZ] w126 window switch compatibility

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no, they are not compatible. Steve MacSween wrote: I've been looking for a replacement console zebrano panel for my '82 SD, and most of what is now coming up on the Bay is the later style, with the individual switches. Are the connectors compatible? Or is there some other issue I haven't

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dont worry, its fixing to end real soon. Sunil Hari wrote: god this is turning into an oil thread ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C,

[MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Rick Knoble
Looks like I am gonna buy another diesel Benz, this time a 2.5 turbo W124. WTF is the matter with me? I am nuts? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT '92 E300D (pending) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 22 00:25:46 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.224]) by

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Rick, I doubt you will live to regret buying a W124 300D 2.5t. Mine is one of the finest cars I have driven in the past 4+ year. I drive mine between 80 and 85+ miles an hour on the interstate and still get 31 mpg-great handling car as well. Good luck and enjoy. Dwight PS-maybe you should sell

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
You're contemplating buying one of the best (if not the best) E-class sedans made. Feel proud. I own one and haven't regretted it for a minute. Cruises at 80-85 without complaint (except from the police), rock solid handling, and no * computer. Fit it with sheepskins and roll. Might you

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Sunil, Great move. In 1992 I bought a '90 900S 16 valve NA, 5 speed.. drove it for almost 100K miles. A great machine-only sold it because the electrics-main fuse block were melting down and I had moved to a new city and was staring a new job and couldn't ' really deal with it. Wife still won't

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
question - on these saabs (I know, non-Benz questions) is 5th gear hard to find? On mine, 5th is 1/2 away from third, maybe less. Any adjustments to make or anything like that? On 10/21/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil, Great move. In 1992 I bought a '90 900S 16 valve

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Sunil Hari wrote: question - on these saabs (I know, non-Benz questions) is 5th gear hard to find? On mine, 5th is 1/2 away from third, maybe less. Any adjustments to make or anything like that? Yours is newer than anything I can remember driving. (actually, I'm not sure if I ever drove

Re: [MBZ] Metal Brake Line

2006-10-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Larry, Don't know if this will handle the stronger metal brake lines, but here's a thought...Get a plain old ordinary screen door spring, if they sell them anymore. I think the line should be able to slip right inside the spring I remember them from before the early

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
I can find third just fine; it's getting fifth that's the issue. But the more i drive it, the easier it become sto find. On 10/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: question - on these saabs (I know, non-Benz questions) is 5th gear hard to find? On mine, 5th is 1/2

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
Someone find where the factory manual says that the transmission is suppose to start in first and then I'll believe them. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:03:13 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever you say, I guess I am wrong. I have half a dozen of those cars here at any given

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
That's ok, I'm soon to be in posession of another diesel Benz. A parts car that I'll drive home.. Then maybe another 300CD. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:47:02 -0500, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I am gonna buy another diesel Benz, this time a 2.5 turbo W124. WTF is the

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
erI ment where the factory manual says SECOND!!! UGH. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:34:22 -0500, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone find where the factory manual says that the transmission is suppose to start in first and then I'll believe them. On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:03:13

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread OK Don
As Kleb says - it depends on which tranny you're talking about! I'll quote from page 41 of the factory original owners manual (not a copy or reprint) from my last 1976 300D (115 chassis, pre turbo), part no. 115 584 12 97 - D Drive. All gears are available. 1st. gear can be engaged only by

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Peter Frederick
For my cars: The 220D sits in second and kicks down to first when you press the accelerator down (i.e. a second gear sitter). The 88 TE starts in second gear unless you pretty much floor it The 280 SE 4.5 starts in first (three speed tranny) The 87 300D starts in first. My brother's 75

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
OK, now how about the turbo versions? On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:26 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Kleb says - it depends on which tranny you're talking about! I'll quote from page 41 of the factory original owners manual (not a copy or reprint) from my last 1976 300D (115 chassis,

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
exactly, which is what I already quoted. OK Don wrote: As Kleb says - it depends on which tranny you're talking about! I'll quote from page 41 of the factory original owners manual (not a copy or reprint) from my last 1976 300D (115 chassis, pre turbo), part no. 115 584 12 97 - D Drive. All

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they start in 1st, as I have said many times already. The part about them sitting in 2nd is correct, they sit in 2nd till you start moving, but start in first. Luther Gulseth wrote: OK, now how about the turbo versions? On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:47:26 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread OK Don
RTFM. On 10/21/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, now how about the turbo versions? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97

[MBZ] KALEB IS CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! I CONCEDE?

2006-10-22 Thread Stephen D Murrell
Kaleb is correct; my 300D has 4 speeds starts out in 1st !!!; sometimes shifts to 2nd quickly, depending on load and how far acell. pedal is pushed down Steve

Re: [MBZ] KALEB IS CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! I CONCEDE?

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, unless you have your foot in it, it will go from 1st to 2nd rather quick. And thanks btw. Stephen D Murrell wrote: Kaleb is correct; my 300D has 4 speeds starts out in 1st !!!; sometimes shifts to 2nd quickly, depending on load and how far acell. pedal is pushed down Steve

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes. Fifth is difficult to find. I am still perfecting the smooth shift to fifth. If I feel like concentrating on it, I can do it flawlessly, but sometimes I just let it catch, then wiggle it around the catch so to speak. Also, the shifting is not the smoothest, particularly from first to

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Referencing your original question, Curt: Also watch out for problems involving the parking brake and the front calipers (to which it hooks). There's also a characteristic clunk you may hear and feel when backing up and then braking (also involving front calipers I believe). This is common. The

[MBZ] Spotted a 250? for sale tonight

2006-10-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
There's an indie-type garage in town that works on imports, mainly Volvo, Saab and some Mercedes (there was a Porsche there tonight). I have seen a light tan (or yellow) Mercedes there for some time. Tonight is the first time I saw a For Sale sign on it. We pulled in and looked quickly - the

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread archer
In the local (Citrus County, Florida) newspaper for the past ten days: '68 Beetle, new engine, tires, and exhaust. $2200 or best offer. 352-527-8312. Also, parked in someones yard on the way to town: Pre-'70s Beetle, hippy paint job. Less than $2000. Gerry

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes, and far, far too many of them have amplified exhaust. Love VDubbs if you want, but few things are more irritating than amplified VW Bug exhaust. And yes, the Baja is quite popular in the desert (what some may know as a dune buggy or the like). These are what started the stinger unmuffled

Re: [MBZ] Metal Brake Line

2006-10-22 Thread mykd1
If by chance you can't find the original line already bent, you can possibly rent the tool to bend the line. I believe autozone rents them. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: And when it's quite cold out, the car creeps forward in neutral due to viscosity in the tranny oil I assume. As I said, we'll see how Mobil 1 changes that. I'd change the fluid to make sure the correct stuff is in the tranny. In the 1970's, Saab spec'd a SAE 70 lube,

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: And lately, it seems, unless I depress the clutch to the floor, it'll kachunk into reverse. I wonder if this is a sign of needing a new clutch? Or that you aren't getting full travel due to air in the hydraulics or the travel stop on the slave cylinder being pushed out of

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: And yes, the Baja is quite popular in the desert (what some may know as a dune buggy or the like). I think of the Baja Bug as a VW with fiberglass front end and bonnet, jacked up suspension, big rear wheels, and high exhaust. Still has the VW body shell and floor pan, and

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther Gulseth wrote: Someone find where the factory manual says that the transmission is suppose to start in first and then I'll believe them. I've got the W116 update book that introduces the 300SD to the dealer mechanics. It describes the fact that the tranny naturally starts in 2nd, and

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes-on my 90, first was hard to find, esp. if you snap shifted. I found that easing it in with minimal right side pressure worked. On my 82 900 4-speed, second was hard to find. Dwight. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess

Re: [MBZ] trouble light

2006-10-22 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Thanks Jeff, It will be nice to know how and what to do when something lights up. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] trouble light You just did it!

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-22 Thread ts
Kaleb is reported to have said: Isnt it amazing how old MB diesels get as good if not better than the so called gas savers these days? AMEN! - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 21,

Re: [MBZ] Spotted a 250? for sale tonight

2006-10-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
The 250 is an in line 6 cylinder, gas burner with 2 downdraft carbs. A good one is a great car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:47 AM To:

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
A decent running, rust free bug will cost that much and for that price you should be able to start driving the car to work this week. You can find junk bug for $800.00 - $1,500.00. The issue with the cheap ones is that you will be replacing / repairing structural sheet metal, welding in floor

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread ts
go for it! - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Another Benz? Looks like I am gonna buy another diesel Benz, this time a 2.5 turbo W124. WTF is the matter

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
thanks for the help - I need to buy a Saab bible (Bentley?). Also, the sunroof has a horribly sagging headliner, to the point where the roof won't retract all the way. Suggestions on how to remove/repair/replace it? On 10/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes-on my 90,

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
not amazing - just that people aren't willing to go slowly off the line to save fuel. They want 20 MPG and sub-8 second 0-60 times and not 30MPG and 0-60? Yes. On 10/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb is reported to have said: Isnt it amazing how old MB diesels get as

Re: [MBZ] Spotted a 250? for sale tonight

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its a 114, would be a 68-72, its a 2.5 6 cylinder gas with dual zenith carbs. Zoltan Finks wrote: There's an indie-type garage in town that works on imports, mainly Volvo, Saab and some Mercedes (there was a Porsche there tonight). I have seen a light tan (or yellow) Mercedes there for some

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well heck, I was just hearing on the radio today how the prius I think is rated at 48mpg city, and 30 something highway. Also, take into account there is no official govt testing to rate hybrids so they go by what the car maker tells them. And from what I hear they are not doing as well as

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread Lee Einer
I have driven a few bugs, and shopped extensively for a good one in Phoenix. My experience was that while you can pay a reasonable price - $1800 or so a few years back- for a structurally sound, rust-free running Dub, you will invariably have some wrenching to do. Problem is, anybody can work on

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread John Peterson
Those headliners failed on every saab I had. I bought a headliner kit for +-300 and installed it one weekend. It looked great. But I did live without a headliner (after tearing the sagging one out) for a couple of years! The Bentley is the book for you. Did anyone give you the lecture

[MBZ] cheap 300D for john gregg?

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-241096267001_W0QQitemZ290041812279QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-22 Thread Peter Frederick
The old MB diesels got excellent milage at the expense of, well, leisurely, performance -- meaning DON'T pull out in front of a heavy truck. In todays market, that won't sell cars. Newer cars should be getting much better milage. We had an old Nissan Sentra for a work car for a while

Re: [MBZ] People With Old VWs Have Lost Their Minds

2006-10-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, sloppy care kills them off, for sure. Ours rusted away, it eventually go junked when the front suspension got wobbly. One of the things that does them in is failure to replace the o-rings on the oil cooler. This permits oil to leak eventually, and it usually catches fire, followed by

[MBZ] cheap 87 300D

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-Turbo-1987-MERCEDES-300DT-3-0L-L5-TURBO-DIESEL-NEW-TIRES_W0QQitemZ190043696852QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE

[MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2006-10-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-2-5-GOOD-CAR-FOR-GOOD-MONEY_W0QQitemZ190043674118QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-22 Thread Hans Neureiter
I agree with you. On 10/21/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I think what I bought was junk. I am looking for an alternative to the $ 50 pad + shipping + glue. What would a 3/4 thick blue insulation board (like what's on my garage door) do? Maybe catch

[MBZ] help with SML CD

2006-10-22 Thread Hans Neureiter
My Service Manual Library CD quit working. It will go past the 'Autorun.inf' to 'Start.exe' and than it quits. I checked the system, 'autorun' is enabled. I tried different CD Rom drives. Nothing. I had aproblem not being able to print, but this turned out to be that Acrobat 7.0 set itself as

Re: [MBZ] help with SML CD

2006-10-22 Thread LarryT
Did you try rebooting? You may need to reinstall Adobe - I think 7.0 is the lastest. If you get it to work (or maybe if you don't) you might try copying the CD to your hard drive - it runs much faster that way and do't need to keep the CD close by. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread LarryT
Hi Rick - Ditto what the others said - Ilike mine so much I may find another someday -- my wife drives this one all the time. Try to find the best one possible - naturally - mine had 100k when I bought it and I still had to do some tweaking. But the nicer the better - My engine starts

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, that gives me a shock, because I just asked recently whether or not the green stuff will be okay in my 84 Saab 900, and the answer came back that the green stuff is just fine. Brian On 10/22/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those headliners failed on every saab I had. I

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Sunil Hari
toss-up = no question, I'd take the SDL every time, just for the rear space and trunk space. Plus I've always wanted an S-Klasse. On 10/22/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick - Ditto what the others said - Ilike mine so much I may find another someday -- my wife drives this one all

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread OK Don
They are different cars, each special in it's own way. You need one of each. On 10/22/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: toss-up = no question, I'd take the SDL every time, just for the rear space and trunk space. Plus I've always wanted an S-Klasse. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The

Re: [MBZ] Another Benz?

2006-10-22 Thread Luther Gulseth
UH HUH. Got me one for a good price that needs head work. Yeehaww!!! On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:09:52 -0500, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: toss-up = no question, I'd take the SDL every time, just for the rear space and trunk space. Plus I've always wanted an S-Klasse. On 10/22/06,

[MBZ] One For K'leb

2006-10-22 Thread Rick Knoble
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/car/223821046.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 22 19:42:52 2006 Received: from mail1.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.204]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GbjDe-0003j8-VX for mercedes@okiebenz.com;

[MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor

2006-10-22 Thread MICHAEL ESH
1982 300TD I removed the motor and blower today because it only worked intermittently. It seems to run okay if I tip it upside down or sideways but not in its proper orientation. Is this a brush problem and can I order just the brushes? If so how do I get the blower off without breaking

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD Blower Motor

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
MICHAEL ESH wrote: Is this a brush problem and can I order just the brushes? Sounds like bad brush contact or a busted winding. If the shaft is sliding when you change orientation an unworn part of the commutator could make contact with the worn brushes and make it run intermittently. A

Re: [MBZ] help with SML CD

2006-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Is it the Flash stuff -- the little cartoon that runs first before the menus come up? --R Hans Neureiter wrote: My Service Manual Library CD quit working. It will go past the 'Autorun.inf' to 'Start.exe' and than it quits. I checked the system, 'autorun' is enabled. I tried different CD Rom

Re: [MBZ] KALEB IS CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! I CONCEDE?

2006-10-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Now all you have to do is help him learn how to use the CapsLock key on his keyboard. That might be harder than discerning the correct tranny shifting stuff. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yes, unless you have your foot in it, it will go from 1st to 2nd rather quick. And thanks btw.

Re: [MBZ] Old VWs - Buggies

2006-10-22 Thread Mitch Haley
I just found out that Bruce Meyers is still selling fiberglass buggy kits: http://www.meyersmanx.com/manxter2+2.shtml