Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Meade Dillon
You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any

Re: [MBZ] I'm back in a black 201

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Can't quite remember any other Merc being as famous for going hard in the 80's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDB8OexxnSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw-AxiVqihM I could go on but you get the idea! Hendrik who still has a 201 to look after and yes it is a great driving chassis On 22/04/14

[MBZ] For All You El Camino Lovers

2014-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
Amazing. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/21/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-pick-up/ Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out

Re: [MBZ] For All You El Camino Lovers

2014-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-most-beautiful-1979-mercedes-is-half-el-camino-1565760731/+zacestrada --R On 4/22/14 8:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Amazing. http://bringatrailer.com/2014/04/21/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-pick-up/ Dan Sent from my iPad ___

Re: [MBZ] 380 is a 560, original poser, hmmm

2014-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
280 (or a 2xx anyway) was the straight 6 and from my understanding was a fairly desirable car. -Curt Who might consider a 107 someday... Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 21:10:22 -0400 From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380 is a

Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black

2014-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Too right. When my '85 went wrong it did it all at once and went VERY wrong. I was taking an offramp at speed (the day after a ChowdaQ actually) when all of a sudden the rear end went all weird. I thought we'd blown a tire... -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:32:34 -0400 From: Meade Dillon

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread LarryT
Thx Jim - I'm pretty sure my Fog lights work regardless of which lights are on - they'll also work with only the parking lights. But I'll check - I'll also look for the Lamp-Out Sensor Box. Is it near the fuse box? Thanks again - Larry On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D

2014-04-22 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them, they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was wire in

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands.  Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think

[MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck

2014-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Noticed today that the gauge stays pegged at 3, car on/off/revving. What would cause that? Gauge in cluster busted? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck

2014-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
If it's a W126, the gauge is electric, not mechanical. Full scale means the sender is grounded or the wire going to it, I believe. Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Noticed today that the gauge stays pegged at 3, car on/off/revving.

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:23:27 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D Message-ID: 5356a58f.2040...@comcast.net Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure gauge 300SD stuck

2014-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Excellent, I'll check it next time i see it, as it just left a few minutes ago. --R On 4/22/14 4:01 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If it's a W126, the gauge is electric, not mechanical. Full scale means the sender is grounded or the wire going to it, I believe. Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 3:06 PM,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread astrasfogel
Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Meade Dillon
No spring compressor is required, even though the book call for one. Did this on my '85 wagon when I rebuilt the rear suspension. Loosen strut connection at control arm. Bleed off pressure in SLS system. Lift the back of the car until all pressure is off the springs, pull them out. Need to be

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Service manual assumes access to special tool plus they are not going to suggest that the springs can be removed without it. Lawyers would have a field day if things went wrong. With care the rear springs can be removed without compression, using a trolley jack. In one episode of wheeler

Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I don't think diameter is the thing so much, it's the strength of the spring, from memory there are numbers or colours on them to differentiate between the various types. Hendrik who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh that's right you

[MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___

[MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Robert Koziak
Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and completely drained

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. Hendrik who also has scratches on the Merc caused by careless kids On 23/04/14 09:12, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I think the number is 120589072100? When did you check the oil? Straight after running it? If so there will be oil all over the engine that needs to drain back. Hendrik whose cars have always come with a dipstick On 23/04/14 09:21, Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread clay
That will not buff. That would need to be sanded and filled, then you might be able to fake it with judicious application of touch up paint. Will not look great, but better than right now. After you do the paint, you can buff. clay On Apr 22, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Robert Koziak
I actually let it settle overnight. -Original Message- From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 8:06 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic I think the number is 120589072100? When did you

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Koziak wrote: Hi All, I know that 2004 E320 4matic doesn't come with an oil dip stick but I read that one could be purchased so I researched and bought one that was supposed to work. I chose one made by a company named Kommen - Model #KM808-M. I changed the oil a few days ago and

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
And I take it the car was parked level? This dipstick is for various engines so there are different instructions for different engines? From what I can see there are two possibilities, either the dipstick is wrong or the oil level is low. I don't think this company would go to the trouble of

Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black

2014-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: Is pervine still alive? I was hoping that someone from around there might be able to say something? Did John work for Matt? Did Matt move to ME? Does Gary know? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. That brings back memories of my boleadoras, which I only threw once. I'd seen a National Geographic special on some savages that hunted birds

Re: [MBZ] i am now like penoff

2014-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: and have dropbox account :) Is that free? Is it any better than the google thing? ...what's it called?... picassa? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black

2014-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cama moved to ME. Was pervine in atlanta too? On 4/22/2014 7:43 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Kaleb wrote: Is pervine still alive? I was hoping that someone from around there might be able to say something? Did John work for Matt? Did Matt move to ME? Does Gary know? mao

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik and Fay wrote: Could not find English version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aucrdPTfo4 Is this it? http://filenuke.com/e71cqif4l2we ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Robert Koziak
I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: That will not buff. Put the whole car in a time capsule. Stop driving it now. Replace all fluids for long term storage. This is going to be come known worldwide as SpencerArt and will surely be 6-figure piece at the 2038 Christie auction. Be encouraged - the kid is like his dad. mao

Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black

2014-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: Cama moved to ME. Was pervine in atlanta too? Pervine was in ATL. Cama moved north someplace and I thought I heard it was ME. Didn't he come from upstate NY? Where's Berryman when we need NY info. Canfield? - speak up. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
However Kaleb will have to get the young artist to sign the work. Didn't one of the Beatles paint a RR in psychedelic colours? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbmDVeQ88W4 Hendrik who is not an artist On 23/04/14 10:23, Mountain Man wrote: clay wrote: That will not buff. Put the whole car in

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? My 1999 goes from 'OK' to 'add 1.0 quart'. The next stages are 'add 1.5 quarts' and 'add 2.0 quarts'. When it hits add 2.0 going down the road,

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff
If they're down to primer or bare metal you're screwed. No Martha'ing could fix that. Martha/Poos/Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I

[MBZ] OT safety first

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Nice to see him using the hazard lights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwqEHbLh_QE Hendrik who has a little dump truck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
-Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I suspect the system may be a bit more advanced than the earlier ones. Which only tell you if the oil falls below a certain level. Hendrik who has had the low oil light come on once or twice On 23/04/14 10:21, Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level.

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread Dwight Giles
My gmail doesn't put curt's messages in spam. Not on my smart phone or my laptop. YMMV. 5might be your security settings. On Apr 22, 2014 9:04 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on...

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict

Re: [MBZ] Oil Dip Stick Question 2004 E320 4matic

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Koziak wrote: I was curious if it reads ok until it reaches the low level. Is there any way electronically to get an oil quantity reading? Oh, you were asking how to get the reading? Turn the key to 'on' but not to 'start', and leave it that way for 30 seconds or so until it says

Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:53:28 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh that's right you operate in systems where nothing makes sense:-D ) Now we know you Aussies are from another planet. In

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Craig

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during

Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Their drain spirals are screwed up as well. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 08:53:28 +0930 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: who is in autumn not spring (actually you lot call it fall, why don't you call spring rise? Ahh

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:02:25 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Now that I cannot say; I've only worked on Sedans. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:29:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Make that red. Craig

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at on my S210. Don't know about your S123. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread David Bruckmann
Try drcolorchip.com Their relatively thick rub-on paint system may fill it in... I actually just ordered some of their kits for my Caledonia Green 300D and my Horizon Blue 280SEL 4.5, since the original touch-up sticks are NLA from MBUSA. I haven't tried the kits yet, but the colour looks

[MBZ] 300sd oil pressure gauge

2014-04-22 Thread Ronald Courcy
If w126 Gauge will read max if wire at sender is off or circuit is open. I found This out when I changed the oil pan a couple of months ago.Thanks Ron Courcy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this

2014-04-22 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Check your insurance. Some policies include vandalism. Gerry On 4/22/2014 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If they're down to primer or bare metal you're screwed. No Martha'ing could fix that. Martha/Poos/Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

2014-04-22 Thread David Bruckmann
Yes. Dead easy. Just be careful about corrosion: aluminium and salt are a bad combo, so you may find that you have stripped threads, esp the bleed valve. Might want to give everything a good soaking with Liquid Wrench in case it helps. Also, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you remove the control

Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D

2014-04-22 Thread Rick Knoble
Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. ‎Anyone I forgot?