Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!

2015-03-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
OK Don wrote: You could also capture the flexing of the tire as it rolls and becomes flat at the bottom with a piezo-electric chip to generate electricity, or do both! Great feature!! It will make good use of our failing washboard and pothole asphalt infrastructure and this feature might also

Re: [MBZ] SL

2015-03-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Another Mercedes and electronics type ... how did he find out that the Tek scopes would sweeten the deal? Coworker. We'd talked Tek before. That makes five Tek scopes for me, now. And one Heathkit! I just fixed the little Tek 2336, a wire had broken off of the focus control, it was _bad_

[MBZ] Checking your 722.6 Transmission for Wear

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Some of you might find this interesting reading: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/2212242-handy-way-determine-how-worn-out.html#post10709594 I'm going to check my cars and see where they end up. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!

2015-03-10 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mar 9, 2015 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings.

Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's always great sport trying to figure out local Arizona time. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: fmiser wrote: I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't. NM is seriously considering no DST - just to be like their

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yes. He sent my daughter a part and he still hasn't called me to get a CC to pay him. --R On 3/9/15 7:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: No Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ...has anyone heard from Gary

Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Where is he getting 250hp? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where is this, Mitch? On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:25 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My local RS stores are franchises that are not only staying open, but are expanding their parts departments and are already stocking third party electronic components.

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims Yo you needs some twennyfos yo And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools? --R On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been wanting should I finally hit it rich. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Re: [MBZ] Car Data

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the US version to work. I've tried it on different computers, with different credit cards, etc. and never had it work. I've probably been banned. Nearly everything in the online EPC can be found elsewhere if you look hard enough. I have a DAS

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Better not be for $180,000. Sky Mall always had crazy crap like that. I think they went out of business because much of their catalog was crazy crap nobody would ever buy. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Oh no! Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane? --R On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my flight yesterday. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I buy stuff from DealExtreme, it is really cheap but sometimes takes a month or 6 weeks to show up via Hong Kong post, but never a problem with anything. Some stuff I got recently was shipped via Netherlands Post, I have no idea what that was about. Their web site is like crack, usually by

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Plastic dip paint? WTF is he talking about? On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims Yo you needs some twennyfos yo And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools? --R

Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The computer is sited in Washington, D.C. so it can track your every movement and confiscate all your guns. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is this the sub for a bath tub? On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been wanting should I finally hit it rich. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's what happens when you get in a hurry Dan On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Poos is so incompetent Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh believe me I know. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's what happens when you get in a hurry Dan On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Poos is so

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If it has the acc 3 with puchbuttons, I think it does. But I don't know. Never drove a 123 300D on the road. I don't think a 123 has a voltage regulator porcupine? I do think that removing and testing the fan motor is next. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 10, 2015

[MBZ] Urgently Needed: Viton(?) Injector Return Line

2015-03-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Someone on the list mentioned getting some tubing for injector return lines from McMaster-Carr, IIRC. I also recall that it worked out well. Since our '82 240D/3.0 is again our main driver, I have found that the return lines are weeping rather badly. And since my lungs have recently been insulted

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Poos is so incompetent Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, we've all been there, so I'll be happy to share So I took the day off today to go with the wife and her sister, who is visiting, to the Sunken

Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting

2015-03-10 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Bummer, no Dissel power option. The Transit Connect and Ram Promaster do have Diesels, a 3.2l 5 cyl and 3.0l 4 cyl respectively Kevin in Hillsboro, OR who likes that Diesel sound Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I thought Kaleb said there was no shaking? On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Shaking at idle = motor mounts? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Shaking at idle = motor mounts? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car CAR SHAKE AT IDLE? --R On 3/10/15 11:04 AM, Kaleb

[MBZ] Hey Max, about that airbag...

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
This might be fun to do, but around our locale the use of a watermelon would not be advised http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-what-happens-when-an-airbag-deploys-a-hundredth-1690481385 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Many moons ago I worked with this woman, a sales babe (she subscribed to this description and flaunted it, and totally was) was going on one evening at dinner about how she and her husband took showers together but one was always cold because both couldn't be under the shower together. So I

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are perfect if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles smooth and does not shake from side to side like it has uneven compression from a bent rod. On 3/10/2015 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Have you

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's the power you get when you run it on FREE VEG OIL but then drops from 40mpg to more like 25 but it is still FREE --R On 3/10/15 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Where is he getting 250hp? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fortunately it was something simple...when I saw the codes the CEL was throwing, I was almost certain I had left it unplugged. Six cylinder cars don't run well on five cylinders Dan On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes my mother used to say that

[MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, we've all been there, so I'll be happy to share So I took the day off today to go with the wife and her sister, who is visiting, to the Sunken Gardens, a relic of the old Florida tourista places. We take her car, the 2005 Mazda 6, since mine is not adequate for three adults. As I

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes my mother used to say that haste makes waste. Glad you have it figured out On Mar 10, 2015 9:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's what happens when you get in a hurry Dan On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Good luck in getting the buttons to work properly. Currently I have to punch the button next to the defrost button to get the fan running, and then punch the middle or button on its right to get hot or cold. Spraying the buttons mechanisms with Deoxit improved the situation but I still have to

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So we get home this afternoon and I immediately put my scanner on it. P0306, both constant and pending, meaning that the COP for the number six cylinder has gone south. I'm thinking I'm living right, as cylinders one through three in this car are in back and under the intake manifold, a

[MBZ] Could be interesting

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
http://www.autonews.com/article/20150305/OEM04/150309896 Too bad Jaime can't convince MomBUSA to get em to bring in the Vito Dissel in place of the gasser. Even so, it might be an alternative to the dogde van in a few years. (Also borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section)

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's what happens when you let yourself run out of cold beverages - never let that happen! On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: snip I realized I needed to replenish my supply of cold beverages, so I drive to the nearby grocery store to pick

Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I was thinking the same thing. I believe the Adult Beverage Low Warning Light may have been flashing at a high cyclic rate that caused a shadow which blanked out the coil connection from normal vision recognition. The ABLWL light works in conjunction with the ABOLL [Adult Beverage Over Limit

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sounds like an autocentric Catfish. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Retain Snook, sue the kid in small claims court. Or get over it and find a different car to buy... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

Re: [MBZ] Urgently Needed: Viton(?) Injector Return Line

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
1/8 ID viton tubing.I think it was Curt who used McMaster. I bought it locally Someone on the list mentioned getting some tubing for injector return lines from McMaster-Carr, IIRC. I also recall that it worked out well. Since our '82 240D/3.0 is again our main driver, I have found that

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
K'leb car: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4-DOOR-LOADED-1990-mercedes-benz-350-sdl-diesel-/251871916602?forcerrptr=truehash=item3aa4bc723aitem=251871916602pt=US_Cars_Trucks not a 1991, but at kleb price, and rebuilt rodbender. Wish I knew someone who'd drive a car from Miami

Re: [MBZ] Checking your 722.6 Transmission for Wear

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to check my 97 e300, it shifts fine but I suspect it is getting a little on the worn out side. I think that is the deal with these .6 boxes, they shift fine even when worn out until they just quit, but that is just my impression. On 3/10/2015 6:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150310/9aa1c43b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Have you done a test drive? On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This thing has been bugging me big time. I have wanted a last model year 126 diesel for many many years but they almost never come up for sale. This one is pretty well

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
SO spring for the extra $300 - YOU WON'T REGRET IT. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are perfect if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles smooth

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
This thing has been bugging me big time. I have wanted a last model year 126 diesel for many many years but they almost never come up for sale. This one is pretty well documented service wise. It still has a chance of bending rods I suppose but at 228K I think the big chance of that has

Re: [MBZ] Car Data

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'm using both Vista and Windows 7, at home (work blocks the Java connection to servers not on a white list, I think). Need to have current Java installed and set up correctly. Mac is not supported. Sometimes a Java update will kill it until the EPC developers catch up, may take a month or

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Didn't that chain get bought by Family Dollar? Or the other way around? Might be reorientation over that. --R On 3/10/15 3:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Radio junk here was gone in a week after the announcement. We used to have 2 radio junk stores. Today I see the Dollar

[MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Sounds like top gear may be stripped. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040 Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section: Don't know, don't care no cable tv. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] OT Unbroken

2015-03-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Anyone read the book Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand? I am just about through it. About Louis Zamperini - an American who crashed into the Pacific and survived 46 days in a life raft and then about 2 years as a Japanese POW. I think there is a movie now too but have not seen it. A pretty good

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's a fine line between charm and irritating... On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: bub but but that was the charm of the show! --R On 3/10/15 2:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I hadn't realized he was such an a**hole.

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
We rednecks are offended that he has been suspended. I think I will write to complain. (or, in other words, let us make this into one more politically correct boring show so no one will want to watch it anyway) RB On 10/03/2015 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: bub but but that was

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So, when the producer said The show's executive producer, Andy Wilman, described last year as an anus horribilis for the programme he was referring to Jeremy? But the irritation was the charm, like how someone so irritating could be so... irritating. It made it fun to watch him be subjected

Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Radio junk here was gone in a week after the announcement. We used to have 2 radio junk stores. Today I see the Dollar General is closing. Bad sign when Dollar Gen can't make it. Family Dollar near my Daughter's house is gone also, but Dollar Gen closed one and opened 2 new stores there.

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not clear if his racial slurs occurred on or off the air. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We rednecks are offended that he has been suspended. I think I will write to complain. (or, in other words, let us make this into one more

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
For anyone keeping track, I changed out the PBU with a spare I have and the same thing occurs where the interior fan does not come on when the Hi-speed fan and middle (lower) PBU button are depressed after the car is started but the fan will start when the defrost button is depressed, so it

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
So, when the producer said The show's executive producer, Andy Wilman, described last year as an anus horribilis for the programme he was referring to Jeremy? But the irritation was the charm, like how someone so irritating could be so... irritating. It made it fun to watch him be

Re: [MBZ] OT Unbroken

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Supposed to be a great movie, which of course means it won't do well at the box office but will be around a long time. NPR interviewed the director a couple months ago, and the guy it's based on got to see a preliminary cut, he died before it was finalized. I plan to see it one way or

Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I love Granny, but I fear her experience with the motors was limited only to her accepting the chauffeur into the family! --R On 3/10/15 6:23 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: So, when the producer said The show's executive producer, Andy Wilman, described last year as an anus

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You can if you want, but it appears his ad is down. So either he is really a mommas boy and she told him he can't sell it for whatever reason so he took the ad down or he sold it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I texted him this morning and told him I was still thinking about it and would come look at it again tomorrow. He now says his mother won't let him sell it at all. I suspect he is a flake and had somebody offer more than we agreed to and he has come up with this story. Oh well. Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I don't think a 123 has a voltage regulator porcupine? I do think that removing and testing the fan motor is next. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 10, 2015 5:48:51 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Try getting a used fan and swap it out.

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The W123 has a resistor network up by the air filter housing somewhere I think (I'll check with my brother). At least somewhere up front on the passenger side, as my brother had to fix his where the car got hit. If the connections at the resistor network are bad, the fan will work

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You want me to call him and act like an interested party? Dan On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I texted him this morning and told him I was still thinking about it and would come look at it again tomorrow. He now says his mother

Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Retain Snook, sue the kid in small claims court. Or get over it and find a different car to buy... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Good luck in getting the buttons to work properly. Currently I have to punch the button next to the defrost button to get the fan running, and then punch the middle or button on its right to get hot or cold. Spraying the buttons mechanisms with Deoxit improved the situation but I still have to