Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Speaking of projects I came across a heart-breaker the other day. A mid/late 60s Alfa Duetto 1750 (like the car used in The Graduate) was sitting in the parking lot of a muffler shop I was visiting. I commented about the great looking Alfa and was told it was for sale - and could probably be bought 'right' as it had been For Sale for a couple of years. That made my ears perk up. So, I start walking toward it and notice it doesn't look exactly right. Then the guy I was talking to said, BTW, it's got a Chevy V8, GM AT and a Ford 9 read end. I turned around and started back toward my car. I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor? Now that I think about it maybe I should have asked if the owner had the original parts! Darn! Later - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
You can always go back and ask about the original parts. If the car has been there for a couple of years, I'm sure it will be there next week. Amazing how often parts like, whole engines get pulled, and as they have no use, or are hard to sell, they just get pushed to the back of the garage or shed. You might get lucky. If the guy does have all the parts, or most of them, sounds like an Alfa you might get at good price. Good luck with it. Ed 300E On 13 May 2010 16:47, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Speaking of projects I came across a heart-breaker the other day. A mid/late 60s Alfa Duetto 1750 (like the car used in The Graduate) was sitting in the parking lot of a muffler shop I was visiting. I commented about the great looking Alfa and was told it was for sale - and could probably be bought 'right' as it had been For Sale for a couple of years. That made my ears perk up. So, I start walking toward it and notice it doesn't look exactly right. Then the guy I was talking to said, BTW, it's got a Chevy V8, GM AT and a Ford 9 read end. I turned around and started back toward my car. I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor? Now that I think about it maybe I should have asked if the owner had the original parts! Darn! Later - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Isn't that what Carroll Shelby did, more or less? Look where that got him! --R On 5/13/2010 4:47 PM, LarryT wrote: Speaking of projects I came across a heart-breaker the other day. A mid/late 60s Alfa Duetto 1750 (like the car used in The Graduate) was sitting in the parking lot of a muffler shop I was visiting. I commented about the great looking Alfa and was told it was for sale - and could probably be bought 'right' as it had been For Sale for a couple of years. That made my ears perk up. So, I start walking toward it and notice it doesn't look exactly right. Then the guy I was talking to said, BTW, it's got a Chevy V8, GM AT and a Ford 9 read end. I turned around and started back toward my car. I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor? Now that I think about it maybe I should have asked if the owner had the original parts! Darn! Later - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Probably a cheap alternative to replacing the worn out original drivetrain. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) Speaking of projects I came across a heart-breaker the other day. A mid/late 60s Alfa Duetto 1750 (like the car used in The Graduate) was sitting in the parking lot of a muffler shop I was visiting. I commented about the great looking Alfa and was told it was for sale - and could probably be bought 'right' as it had been For Sale for a couple of years. That made my ears perk up. So, I start walking toward it and notice it doesn't look exactly right. Then the guy I was talking to said, BTW, it's got a Chevy V8, GM AT and a Ford 9 read end. I turned around and started back toward my car. I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor? Now that I think about it maybe I should have asked if the owner had the original parts! Darn! Later - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Perhaps because he wanted to drive it? That's one reason I put an Olds V8 in my MGA - way back when. Much less fiddling with and more driving when I was done. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:47 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor? -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html Get it while cheap XJS donor cars are still plentiful. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html Get it while cheap XJS donor cars are still plentiful. Did they use the same V-12? If you're going to put in a non-original engine, might as well make it something reliable like a Chevy small-block... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
From what I hear, the V12 were never that much of a problem, it was all the bits that were hung off it that suffered due to the heat under the hood. It was all pack in pretty tight. Ed 300E On 10 May 2010 09:52, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html Get it while cheap XJS donor cars are still plentiful. Did they use the same V-12? If you're going to put in a non-original engine, might as well make it something reliable like a Chevy small-block... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
E M wrote: From what I hear, the V12 were never that much of a problem, it was all the bits that were hung off it that suffered due to the heat under the hood. It was all pack in pretty tight. Wasn't there an electrical part, like an ignition module or something, that you replaced every 10 tanks of fuel? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
No, you're probably thinking of when it required a tuning. That was only needed if it got rained on, which never happened very much in England. ;-) Ed 300E On 10 May 2010 10:01, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: E M wrote: From what I hear, the V12 were never that much of a problem, it was all the bits that were hung off it that suffered due to the heat under the hood. It was all pack in pretty tight. Wasn't there an electrical part, like an ignition module or something, that you replaced every 10 tanks of fuel? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:57 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear, the V12 were never that much of a problem, it was all the bits that were hung off it that suffered due to the heat under the hood. It was all pack in pretty tight. Yeah, I don't know about the V-12 XKE, but the XJS was notorious for melting electrical bits, cracked vacuum lines, etc. etc. due to the low hood. The '70s emissions-control practice of putting cats and/or thermal reactors under the hood with the engine didn't help much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
I don't know about the later V12s, but the early XJ sedans were normally aspirated as opposed to fuel injected, and those six side draft Solexs were a real PITA to keep synchronized. I know the 1978 model would have been right up there when it came to pollution control hardware, but I don't recall any problems related to that with the one I worked on. Back in the early 80s I worked for a guy who had eight Jags - I spent more time taking care of cars than I did generators. His 1978 XJ12 was a nice car, but a real bear to work on and maintain. I never had to do one but I heard stories about having to almost remove the whole front clip to RR the water pump on that car. He had a late 60s XKE with the 4.2 liter six that I rebuilt. That was a BA car, for sure. One nice perk - I was allowed to drive any of the cars home in the evening if I wanted. The wife and I went out on numerous occasions to the theater and opera in the XJ12. The only negative was the gas mileage. That thing had two 16 gallon tanks for a reason Dan --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:12 AM On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:57 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear, the V12 were never that much of a problem, it was all the bits that were hung off it that suffered due to the heat under the hood. It was all pack in pretty tight. Yeah, I don't know about the V-12 XKE, but the XJS was notorious for melting electrical bits, cracked vacuum lines, etc. etc. due to the low hood. The '70s emissions-control practice of putting cats and/or thermal reactors under the hood with the engine didn't help much. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Looks like a fun project. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1731788731.html Get it while cheap XJS donor cars are still plentiful. Did they use the same V-12? If you're going to put in a non-original engine, might as well make it something reliable like a Chevy small-block... What about an OM617 turbo? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Did they use the same V-12? If you're going to put in a non-original engine, might as well make it something reliable like a Chevy small-block... What about an OM617 turbo? You jest, but on the other hand someone posted here an eBay auction a few months back for an SLC with a 617 in it (a 300SLDC?), and that was thought to be impossible due to the low hood. If you were going to klatta-ize a Jag, I think it'd be easier to start with one of the many kits avalable to fit a Chevy 350, and then put in one of the diesels that can bolt up to the same mounts and tranny, such as a GM 6.5 turbo or a Cummins 4BT. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
If your going to put a diesel in that car, you may as well paint a character of
Mohammad on the hood so the whole world will hate you!
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Did they use the same V-12? If you're going to put in a
non-original engine, might as well make it something reliable
like a Chevy small-block...
What about an OM617 turbo?
You jest, but on the other hand someone posted here an eBay auction a few
months back for an SLC with a 617 in it (a 300SLDC?), and that was thought
to be impossible due to the low hood.
If you were going to klatta-ize a Jag, I think it'd be easier to start with
one of the many kits avalable to fit a Chevy 350, and then put in one of the
diesels that can bolt up to the same mounts and tranny, such as a GM 6.5
turbo or a Cummins 4BT.
Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
I'd better run and hide... German diesel, Japanese truck, looking for an
Italian shift knob...
I think a Benz in a Jag would be nice though, get it done up in the austin
powers styling, get the vanity plate klacker...
Walt, who has seen Austin Powers 3 too many times this weekend...
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If your going to put a diesel in that car, you may as well paint a character
of Mohammad on the hood so the whole world will hate you!
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Alex Chamberlain wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
Alex Chamberlain wrote: If you were going to klatta-ize a Jag, I think it'd be easier to start with one of the many kits avalable to fit a Chevy 350, and then put in one of the diesels that can bolt up to the same mounts and tranny, such as a GM 6.5 turbo or a Cummins 4BT. The 6.2 or 6.5 might fit most places a 5.7 gasser will go, but a 4BT/6BT is a TALL truck engine. Maybe a 6AT, which I believe is around 3.5-4.0L, and several inches less tall than a B series? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1974 Jaguar XKE-V12 convertible - $12000 (Charlotte)
I saw a vid of a little old Nissan/datsun 240z with an om606 (myna
style)...
Looks to be more than a few on utube
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On May 10, 2010, at 16:26, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd better run and hide... German diesel, Japanese truck, looking
for an
Italian shift knob...
I think a Benz in a Jag would be nice though, get it done up in the
austin
powers styling, get the vanity plate klacker...
Walt, who has seen Austin Powers 3 too many times this weekend...
On May 10, 2010 4:10 PM, pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
If your going to put a diesel in that car, you may as well paint a
character
of Mohammad on the hood so the whole world will hate you!
--
Peter Arnold
{Hiding where he lives}
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Alex Chamberlain wrote:
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