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Yup We are living 1984 and animal house mashed together. Mitch Haley via Mercedes November 8, 2017 at 10:35 AM Totalitarian dictatorship needs at least one enemy strong enough to force the country to band together. Orwell got that right in '1984', with a

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> On November 8, 2017 at 9:51 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Not just 'Dolfie, but lotsa "leaders have done this. The kim clan Norks > have been using the USA as a strawman to generate hatred so that the > populace does not overthrow them for

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Not just 'Dolfie, but lotsa "leaders have done this. The kim clan Norks have been using the USA as a strawman to generate hatred so that the populace does not overthrow them for decades. I still contend that some dark operative from somewhere should have turned kim jong ill into kim jong

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That’s deplorable --R Sent from iPhone > On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On November 7, 2017 at 9:17 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Too right, but I said that about the Republicans 4

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> On November 7, 2017 at 9:17 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Too right, but I said that about the Republicans 4 years ago. In the last 4 > years its not that the Republicans have risen, the Democrats have just sunk > down into the gutter with them. When

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> On November 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > In the last election I'd have voted none of the above. Last Presidential election was the first since 2000 that I wouldn't have voted none of the above if the choices were Republican, Democrat and

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Too right, but I said that about the Republicans 4 years ago. In the last 4 years its not that the Republicans have risen, the Democrats have just sunk down into the gutter with them. -Curt On Monday, November 6, 2017, 11:51:44 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes

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Not harsh enough. We need an entry on our ballot for "None of the above". If a plurality of votes are for none of the above we run the election again but those two idiots can't run. If a majority of voters choose none of the above we run the election again and those two absolute mouth breathing

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While this topic has remained somewhat apolitical, it's gradually creeping into forbidden territory. Let's either be careful to keep it apolitical or drop it, please. List Mom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs > > How about we fire the whole bunch, make it so none of them can hold office > or be elected again, and start with a whole new bunch of citizens. Give > them each a copy of the state or federal cons

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Na, Custatdemall Fred Moir via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 10:44 PM Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Fred Moir. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

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Wealth is not created by goobers, or by shysters, or printing fiat currency. (Or by theft by goobers or other thieves) Wealth is created by encouraging enterprise. Enterprising people create wealth from the soil, the forests, the minerals, or the waters. Some will further process the

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There is only one party, unless you consider socialists radically different from communist/marxist. The founders warned us to keep political parties from forming. Mitch Haley via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 2:39 PM I'd like to see both parties go away. Too

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Nope! A good start. What do you call 20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?A GOOD START! G Mann via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 7:21 PM How about we fire the whole bunch, make it so none of them can hold office or be elected again, and start with a

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Both parties are doing a pretty good job of suicide right now. Curt Raymond via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 2:43 PM I'd like to dope slap Rand Paul for saying the party was the most important thing... The country is the most important thing, I wouldn't mind if

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so? They do now! OK Don via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 7:18 PM When the unions are gone, the lobbies will have total control over congress, just saying . . . On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < ___

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+1 Curt Raymond via Mercedes November 6, 2017 at 3:40 PM Anybody willing to run for office is by definition unqualified and shouldn't be trusted. Our system is totally screwed, I'm in favor of changing the congressional service cycle to a 6 month period where

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ct: Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs How about we fire the whole bunch, make it so none of them can hold office or be elected again, and start with a whole new bunch of citizens. Give them each a copy of the state or federal constitution and the order they had to stay within it's limits or be fired

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cause you'd start well before you got to the 10 digit number. Bahama tom and billy bob, along with bwawney, chuck u etc will show you the way. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes November 5, 2017 at 8:59 PM I hereby pledge that after earning my first $billion I

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Bingo. Lobbyists are here to stay (1st Amendment), they'll have more power with truly amateur representatives. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On November 6, 2017 8:18:25 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >When the unions are gone, the lobbies will

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It should be a capital crime to lobby.. The voters elect a "representative" whose only job is to "represent" those voters a lobbyist works full time to usurp those voters vote with his or her own agenda... which is the very essence of sedition.. IMHO... On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:49 PM,

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How about we fire the whole bunch, make it so none of them can hold office or be elected again, and start with a whole new bunch of citizens. Give them each a copy of the state or federal constitution and the order they had to stay within it's limits or be fired on the spot? Just as a starting

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When the unions are gone, the lobbies will have total control over congress, just saying . . . On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On November 6, 2017 at 3:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > >

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Mitch. wrote: > I'd like to see both parties go away. -Curt wrote: > I wouldn't mind if both parties died tomorrow. Now we're talking. DIY happens - OkieBenz is a prime example. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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Hear hear! I always vote the person although sadly my choices have been lacking. Very occasionally do I get to vote for somebody I think is worth it. Angus King when he was governor of Maine comes to mind. I'm not super excited about his time in the Senate but he's not my senator... I'm kind of

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> On November 6, 2017 at 3:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > That wouldn't be good for the country. What's your proposed alternative? I have a dream. That I could live in a country without political parties. We could abolish political parties, but

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Anybody willing to run for office is by definition unqualified and shouldn't be trusted. Our system is totally screwed, I'm in favor of changing the congressional service cycle to a 6 month period where congress WILL be in session, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, no flying home on the weekend.

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On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 20:48:18 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I'd like a party that didn't suck. They both lie and cheat and are > pretty much worthless. -Curt George Washington warned against parties. Craig ___

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On 06/11/2017 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'd like a party that didn't suck. They both lie and cheat and are pretty much worthless. -Curt You need to run for office. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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That wouldn't be good for the country. What's your proposed alternative? On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'd like to dope slap Rand Paul for saying the party was the most > important thing... > The country is the most important thing,

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I'd like a party that didn't suck. They both lie and cheat and are pretty much worthless. -Curt On Monday, November 6, 2017, 3:43:28 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Uh, would you prefer anarchy?  Or a European style of government with many parties

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I'd like to dope slap Rand Paul for saying the party was the most important thing... The country is the most important thing, I wouldn't mind if both parties died tomorrow. -Curt On Monday, November 6, 2017, 3:40:04 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >

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Uh, would you prefer anarchy? Or a European style of government with many parties and quasi chaos? On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On November 6, 2017 at 1:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

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> On November 6, 2017 at 1:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > And a 2 party system, interstate highways system, and rich farmland. I'd like to see both parties go away. Too close to Oligarchy now. The Parties are stronger than the taxpayers. Mitch.

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And a 2 party system, interstate highways system, and rich farmland. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > True, but you also need infrastructure and legal/economic/political systems > that provides relatively flat playing fields. > > On Mon, Nov 6,

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True, but you also need infrastructure and legal/economic/political systems that provides relatively flat playing fields. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It comes down to (in part) understanding wealth, and were does it come > from. >

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Brains help. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It comes down to (in part) understanding wealth, and were does it come > from. > > Some believe that there is a limited amount of wealth, and so the struggle > becomes "get my fair share". >

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It comes down to (in part) understanding wealth, and were does it come from. Some believe that there is a limited amount of wealth, and so the struggle becomes "get my fair share". I believe that wealth is created, and the basic conditions required are liberty and land. - Max

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--RT wrote: > ...I blame no one but the elected fools (or any other fools) who establish > tax laws... Why not blame us? - we demand education, roads, military, etc. DIY guys know WE can do this. Cancel Washington DC. Yes, let's argue how much DIY does, but start out with empty basket of

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A very sophisticated form of money laundering. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:26 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well said. Just look at that rich guy Kaleb, he's forced to hide his > wealth from taxes using old Mercedes. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD >

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Well said. Just look at that rich guy Kaleb, he's forced to hide his wealth from taxes using old Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On November 5, 2017 11:37:08 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >This behavior seems to me to be a

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This behavior seems to me to be a perfectly natural reaction to obscure, arcane, irrational, and confiscatory tax policies based on a belief that some substantial portion of a corporation’s or individual’s earnings or wealth belongs to the government. I blame no one but the elected fools (or

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I hereby pledge that after earning my first $billion I will NOT use any offshore tax shelters. On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Paradise Papers leak reveals secrets of the world elite's hidden wealth > > Files from offshore law firm

[MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

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