Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread dave walton
moderate quantities (tanker loads), plus $.50-.75 to process per > gallon. > > Lee > > -- > *From:* dave walton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2006 11:45 AM > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List > *Sub

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread Lee Levitt
lon. Lee _ From: dave walton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate How do you come up with $1.75 given the current spot price of Refined Soy Oil? Futures are even wor

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread dave walton
How do you come up with $1.75 given the current spot price of Refined Soy Oil? Futures are even worse. -Dave Walton On 2/5/06, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mitch writes: > > > You seem to think that the price of bio stays constant while > > the price of dino goes up. Three years ago

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread Andrew Cunningham
You can buy a biodiesel pump by Webster pump from www.patriot-supply.com Caal 1-866-321-4822 and ask for Steve Boyle This eliminates the fire risk and pump damage that biodiesel can do to normal pumps. No relationship with company/person. Got the contact information from altfuelfurnace on yahoo.

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread Lee Levitt
David writes: > > That may be true, but it's hard to make that case when some > engine manufacturers are telling them they won't honor fuel > system warranties on engines used with biodiesel. > Same deal with home heating systems. Riello USA, for instance, won't warrant a home heating burner

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-06 Thread Lee Levitt
Mitch writes: > You seem to think that the price of bio stays constant while > the price of dino goes up. Three years ago, bio was $1.70 > while dino was $1.40, both fully taxed. One might have > thought demand for bio would go through the roof when dino > hit $2.50, but it's not happening.

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
l Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:01 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate > > I just want to know when all the restaurant fryer

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread Potter, Tom E
] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate I just want to know when all the restaurant fryer grease and turkey and chicken guts and feathers will be fueling our cars instead of polluting waterways. What are the economics of those guts-to-gas conversion plants? On 2/2/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
I just want to know when all the restaurant fryer grease and turkey and chicken guts and feathers will be fueling our cars instead of polluting waterways. What are the economics of those guts-to-gas conversion plants? On 2/2/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mitch Haley wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: You seem to think that the price of bio stays constant while the price of dino goes up. Three years ago, bio was $1.70 while dino was $1.40, both fully taxed. One might have thought demand for bio would go through the roof when dino hit $2.50, but it's not happening. Becau

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread dave walton
There is a very low demand for high priced biofuel. Once that demand has been met, the price will have to come down in order to attract consumers. Three years ago, cheap biodiesel was made from waste vegetable oil. As that finite supply is used up, producers switch to virgin oils. We are not yet at

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread dave walton
My free-market side winces at this type of legislation, but it is necessary. Once diesel prices go over $4/gallon, the market will work all these bug out by itself. Truckers will want to use it because it costs a buck less per gallon. The suppliers will be able to afford to clean up their act, and

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate Some truckers may be fighting B2, but John Deere last summer announced that they were shipping all their new tractors with B2. And Willie Nelson has been making the news regularly with hi

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread Werner Fehlauer
;David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washingto

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread Zeitgeist
Since I'm now officially privy to "insider" information, I can say that a major manufacturer is seriously interested in investing in a large-scale biodiesel manufacturing facility in Whitman county Warshington. I spoke at length with a contract lobbyist working with this entity who wants to incuba

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
lee wrote: > OTOH, the increased lubricity will probably make their engines > last 25% longer, so maybe they should suck it up, replace the filters, and be > glad they have cleaner, longer lasting engines that pollute far less. That may be true, but it's hard to make that case when some engine ma

Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread lee
> The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in > all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor > fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine > manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in > wides

[MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate

2006-02-02 Thread David Brodbeck
The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in widespread