Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg, that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long! On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving (and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license). But whether or not my 240D is still on the road at that point is 50/50. I am hoping it will (rust bucket by then) still be in (rust bucket by then) roadworthy (rust bucket in a museum) condition. On 8/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg, that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long! On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
If you get that new job 20(?) or more miles away, the pay-back will be porportionaly shorter. On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving (and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license). But whether or not my 240D is still on the road at that point is 50/50. I am hoping it will (rust bucket by then) still be in (rust bucket by then) roadworthy (rust bucket in a museum) condition. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
I am not sure that WVO would be very functional during the winter. I always thought of that as more of a warm weather sort of experiment. Perhaps with the right heaters ...
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
WHOA!!! I DID NOT POST $0.05/gal! I posted $0.05/mile!!! HUGE DIFFERENCE I estimate the WVO costs me $0.50/gal (this includes pickup/filtering/piping/pumping/etc) On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg, that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long! On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
OK - the short term memory must be going!!! AStarting over, the saving is $2.00/gal. $2000/2=1000 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg, that's 25000 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 25 years for you to break even. You still might live that long! On 8/25/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHOA!!! I DID NOT POST $0.05/gal! I posted $0.05/mile!!! HUGE DIFFERENCE I estimate the WVO costs me $0.50/gal (this includes pickup/filtering/piping/pumping/etc) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested. On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:06 PM, LT Don wrote: Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration. He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming systems -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles! On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
A few dozen miles to the PnP and chasing kids all over the place On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:13 PM, OK Don wrote: Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles! On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
I probably put about 10 miles a day on my car (work days) and another 100 on weekends. But that slow, 35 mph max, stop and go driving really drinks down the #2. I estimate I buy about $60 worth of diesel per month, which is $720 per year. Therefore, it would be roughly a 2 to 3 year payback if I was running only on the veggie, which I wouldn't because except on weekends there isn't a long enough drive to warm things up, switch to veggie, and then switch back to #2 prior to shutting down.
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin to a block heater so you don't start out with a block of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather. --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure that WVO would be very functional during the winter. I always thought of that as more of a warm weather sort of experiment. Perhaps with the right heaters ... ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
time invested - in KC, I think there is VO critical mass - I meet people everywhere who want to do it, but complain about the collection (VERY understandable). Jason (co-worker) and I are working on a high volume processing system that uses a centrifugal filter (1 micron level). Will be putting up a website and some other promos soon to gather the KC VO-volk together and spread the labor around. That's the way to go, IMO. Christopher --- redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested. On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:06 PM, LT Don wrote: Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration. He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming systems -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of Debbie's 190D, too. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin to a block heater so you don't start out with a block of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
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if you don't have a long commute, or drive on long trips, it's not worth it. I put nearly 21,000 miles on Wulf in 11 months, so I could use it. Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of Debbie's 190D, too. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin to a block heater so you don't start out with a block of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie (and debbies 190D)
Don, I know you mentioned getting Debbie a 190D, but just thought I would mention the 300TE I picked up for my wife. I had bought her a 83 300TD to drive around in, and she HATED it. She was not a fan of the fumes and noise, so I sold it and used the money to buy her a 1990 300TE. It gets about 22mpg and she drives it everywhere. Her alternative vehicle is our 2001 Yukon XL (15 mpg) and she usually picks the TE. Great car and it fits our four kids and the two of us with an extra seat left over, so it fits our needs. The savings in gas/wear and tear from the Yukon pays the insurance, and I got it cheap enough ($2900) that it will hold it's value for awhile. My oldest turns 16 in 9 years - just might still have it around for her (135K on it now, probably have 200K on it when she is ready to drive). Course she has already called my e320, but I doubt I will have it in 9 years Dave - Original Message - From: LT Don To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] going Veggie I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of Debbie's 190D, too. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin to a block heater so you don't start out with a block of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. -- ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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You are too kind. More likely, I am operating in a parallel universe whose motto is ready, shoot, aim. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can only use 1 kit per car...maybe you are referring to a high efficiency (read simply and easy) filtering apparatus. Christopher --- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need several diesels to justify the price of the kit. On 8/26/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you don't have a long commute, or drive on long trips, it's not worth it. I put nearly 21,000 miles on Wulf in 11 months, so I could use it. Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of Debbie's 190D, too. On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin to a block heater so you don't start out with a block of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie (and debbies 190D)
LT Don wrote: Iowa women don't normally object to diesel because they have grown up around tractors. Do the Benz gassers (i.e., a 300E) have the longevity of the diesel models? The bottom end of a Mercedes gasser can last almost as long as a diesel, but the top end (valve guides, valves, etc.) seldom last more than 200-250kmi before the top end should be rebuilt - and that can be expensive ($2.5-3k) to VERY expensive (a 116/117 engine can get you up to $5-6k or more). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie (and debbies 190D)
Ouch! That is an expensive rebuild. As luck would have it, I saw (and was passed by) a black 300E (W124) just a few minutes ago, on a rural Iowa road. Texas plates, youngish female driver but the car windows were too tinted to really see her. Also, the brake warning light came on at the very same stop sign as it did last Saturday. Perhaps the Benz Gods are telling me that I am braking a bit too hard at that particular stop sign? The run up to it is about five miles of arrow straight road. On 8/26/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bottom end of a Mercedes gasser can last almost as long as a diesel, but the top end (valve guides, valves, etc.) seldom last more than 200-250kmi before the top end should be rebuilt - and that can be expensive ($2.5-3k) to VERY expensive (a 116/117 engine can get you up to $5-6k or more). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
[MBZ] going Veggie
Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a real lift to plumb the thing up. This could be fun. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
YOU GO BOY!!! On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:42:24 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a real lift to plumb the thing up. This could be fun. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
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Can we purchase shares in this endeavor? Don's Iowa Biodiesel Cooperative -official fuel of the Iowa Symphony. On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YOU GO BOY!!! On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:42:24 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a real lift to plumb the thing up. This could be fun. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - you might want to integrate some of his parts into your system. THis is BY FAR the best system available. My co-worker has it 98% installed in his 300Dt and we're dying to see it in operation. BTW, out of 7 permanent employees at Angelus Press, we have 5 diesel benzes (2 are mine). We all plan on going veggie. Jason is the guinea pig. I am the mineral oil base stock guinea pig. Converts...all love their benzes. Christopher --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a real lift to plumb the thing up. This could be fun. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac
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worked for me Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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it works for me...maybe something is wrong in your part of cyber-space...try it later. It's a great site. Christopher --- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Yes, I had a word with them this morning and brought them to task. KEWL stuff. Price of the kit is maybe just a little large, but not by much, given what some guys are trying to get for cars they've done backyard conversions on. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked for me Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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I assume the pic on their catalogue page of a MIG welder with their name on the side, is meant as a joke. As with the pic of the shielded 'arm missle' switch? (Though heaven knows I have always, always wanted one in a car... leftover Bond fantasies from my youth I guess) Mac Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com -
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
When Jason;s kit came, I think my mouth hung open for about a minute. It is incredible. I don't think it's high when you figure that this guy has developped all this on his own (read ALOT OF TIME) and has to recoup that. It's very heavy duty stuff and the way it works is ingenious. Systems like this + a VO source infrastructure (pumps), would cause VO to take off like wildfire. FOr pics of Jason's install, go to http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes?page=1 ... the first page is mostly the car - the other 50 pictures is of how he has installed the system thus far. Christopher --- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I had a word with them this morning and brought them to task. KEWL stuff. Price of the kit is maybe just a little large, but not by much, given what some guys are trying to get for cars they've done backyard conversions on. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked for me Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
I don't doubt it. But I am a cheap old fool, even worse than most of the cheap old fools on this list as I have to pay for this stuff in Canuck Pesos (ugh). More power to the guy, for getting this stuff onto the market. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Jason;s kit came, I think my mouth hung open for about a minute. It is incredible. I don't think it's high when you figure that this guy has developped all this on his own (read ALOT OF TIME) and has to recoup that. It's very heavy duty stuff and the way it works is ingenious. Systems like this + a VO source infrastructure (pumps), would cause VO to take off like wildfire. FOr pics of Jason's install, go to http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes?page=1 ... the first page is mostly the car - the other 50 pictures is of how he has installed the system thus far. Christopher --- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I had a word with them this morning and brought them to task. KEWL stuff. Price of the kit is maybe just a little large, but not by much, given what some guys are trying to get for cars they've done backyard conversions on. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked for me Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Chris Goodwin at Frybrid is a great guy and top mechanic in my book. Works wonders on the old diesels and has them stacked up around his shop. Good on the new stuff as well. On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:01 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - you might want to integrate some of his parts into your system. THis is BY FAR the best system available. My co-worker has it 98% installed in his 300Dt and we're dying to see it in operation. BTW, out of 7 permanent employees at Angelus Press, we have 5 diesel benzes (2 are mine). We all plan on going veggie. Jason is the guinea pig. I am the mineral oil base stock guinea pig. Converts...all love their benzes. Christopher --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have access to a real lift to plumb the thing up. This could be fun. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Works fine for me. Did you click on the page? That got me in On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:06 AM, Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
There IS a slight delay while Flash or something cranks up. On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine for me. Did you click on the page? That got me in On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:06 AM, Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com http://www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration. He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming systems On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 09:12 AM, Steve MacSween wrote: Yes, I had a word with them this morning and brought them to task. KEWL stuff. Price of the kit is maybe just a little large, but not by much, given what some guys are trying to get for cars they've done backyard conversions on. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: worked for me Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page. Mac -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
It is just the purge switch. On the 220D he used the same switch as for the defog, so it was more OE looking On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 09:15 AM, Steve MacSween wrote: I assume the pic on their catalogue page of a MIG welder with their name on the side, is meant as a joke. As with the pic of the shielded 'arm missle' switch? (Though heaven knows I have always, always wanted one in a car... leftover Bond fantasies from my youth I guess) Mac Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would STUDY www.frybrid.com - ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration. He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming systems -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
