Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Must be a problem with the motor.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 11:06 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Switches were fully functional prior to putting the fresh motor in.  Then
> none of the switches would function.  I cleaned them, and even my spares,
> just for good measure.  Now only the driver side rear responds to switch
> from the console, while the rear switches do provide window action.
>
> I remain confused
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:59 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Remove door skin.  See that both motor terminals have +12V on them
> > normally, measured to the door frame metal.  Use a test lamp, that puts a
> > load on it to make sure it's actually got current ability and not just
> > leakage.  One or the other terminal is grounded to make the motor go,
> > depending on direction.  If you don't have +12V, you have a problem.  99%
> > of the time it's dirty switches.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-14 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Switches were fully functional prior to putting the fresh motor in.  Then none 
of the switches would function.  I cleaned them, and even my spares, just for 
good measure.  Now only the driver side rear responds to switch from the 
console, while the rear switches do provide window action.  

I remain confused


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 14, 2018, at 4:59 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remove door skin.  See that both motor terminals have +12V on them
> normally, measured to the door frame metal.  Use a test lamp, that puts a
> load on it to make sure it's actually got current ability and not just
> leakage.  One or the other terminal is grounded to make the motor go,
> depending on direction.  If you don't have +12V, you have a problem.  99%
> of the time it's dirty switches.
> 
> -- Jim
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> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-14 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Might be, but why would the ground fail now, while it worked the day I 
installed the fresh motor?

clay 

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ground under the console?
> 
> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> A few weeks ago I put a new motor in the front passenger regulator.  Prior 
>> to this, all the other windows worked fine with the front controls.  The 
>> rear windows respond to the door switches, but not console buttons, except 
>> for the driver rear.  The front windows no longer go down or up, and rear 
>> pass window does not respond to front buttons.
>> 
>> I checked the fuses and replaced, though they look fine.  Copper/brass 
>> fuses, not the aluminum.  Is there an ice cube relay that is needing 
>> attention?
>> 
>> 
>> clay

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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Remove door skin.  See that both motor terminals have +12V on them
normally, measured to the door frame metal.  Use a test lamp, that puts a
load on it to make sure it's actually got current ability and not just
leakage.  One or the other terminal is grounded to make the motor go,
depending on direction.  If you don't have +12V, you have a problem.  99%
of the time it's dirty switches.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

ground under the console?

clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

A few weeks ago I put a new motor in the front passenger regulator.  Prior to 
this, all the other windows worked fine with the front controls.  The rear 
windows respond to the door switches, but not console buttons, except for the 
driver rear.  The front windows no longer go down or up, and rear pass window 
does not respond to front buttons.

I checked the fuses and replaced, though they look fine.  Copper/brass fuses, 
not the aluminum.  Is there an ice cube relay that is needing attention?


clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately&  well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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[MBZ] windows no goze

2018-04-13 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
A few weeks ago I put a new motor in the front passenger regulator.  Prior to 
this, all the other windows worked fine with the front controls.  The rear 
windows respond to the door switches, but not console buttons, except for the 
driver rear.  The front windows no longer go down or up, and rear pass window 
does not respond to front buttons.

I checked the fuses and replaced, though they look fine.  Copper/brass fuses, 
not the aluminum.  Is there an ice cube relay that is needing attention?


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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