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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Curt, 
When I got my Dodge, it was an off lease that had roughly 100,000 miles. It had 
been run with dino 10w30, forget the brand. I switched it to Valvoline Maxlife 
10w40 for engines with over 75K. Both main seals were dry and I wanted to keep 
it that way. But I was tempted at one point and put in Mobil synthetic. As I 
said, it did not turn out well, but switching back to Valvoline stopped the 
leaks. I change oil and filter on the truck and both diesels around 3-3.5K 
miles. The Escape using Mobil synthetic I change at 7500. It uses 1 to 1.5 
quarts between change, burns some I guess and leaks some from the valve covers. 
I asked the Ford dealership about running a thicker oil, but I was told the oil 
ports in the 3.0 V6 are too small to risk running a thicker oil. I think it 
uses 5w20 or 0w20, can't remember right off. 
My 83 300D has a block heater, but being in the South, I've only used it once 
or twice in 20+ years. For some reason, the 300D will start faster at colder 
temps than the 300SD even though they have basically the same 617 engine. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

"My position is that you should use the oil that makes you feel comfortable 
regardless of what anyone else uses." certainly the best consideration I could 
imagine.
What kind of synthetic did you put in your Dodge? I find that one strange 
because its the exact opposite of my experience. My '96 Dakota 5.2l was leaking 
a quart in 500 miles out the rear main seal. I switched to Mobil 1 10w30 and 
the leak slowed to a quart in 3,000-5,000 miles which I considered acceptable. 
It took 10,000 or 20,000 miles for the leak to really dry up but it stayed that 
way for another 100,000 miles.
RE: diesels in the frozen north whats really needed is a block heater or a 60x 
engine. I never found out how cold it had to be before a 190D 2.2l wouldn't 
start. My '98 Jetta TDI is unhappy at -20F but it starts...
-Curt


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DAILY CAR!! $8999
   
Gee guys, don't want to start an oil war. Anyway, if I lived "up North" which I 
used to, I would not own a diesel, but that's just my choice. As to the oil, 
I've said before, my Indie put synthetic in my 1980 300SD once, it started 
leaking a lot, so I returned to him with 2 gallons of Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 and 
he replaced the oil. Shortly thereafter, the leaking returned to the normal 
seeping. I also use Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my 1983 300D. The 300SD has over 
425,000 miles and has never had the head off or any other engine work. The 300D 
has over 360,000 miles and the same applies. I also tried synthetic in my 2001 
Dodge Ram 5.9 engine truck. It started to leak out of the front and rear main 
seals. I returned it to the Valvoline Max and the seals resealed themselves in 
short order. I do run Mobil synthetic in my Ford Escape v-6 which my daughter 
gave me. It was run on synthetic for the first 100,000, so I continue to use it 
for oil changes. 
My position is that you should use the oil that makes you feel comfortable 
regardless of what anyone else uses. Your experience will be yours as mine will 
be mine. 
Good luck and best wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

List Mom wrote:
> Guys - knock it off.  This is way off topic and becoming inappropriate.

Pepper jam?
...okay...
tintin

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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Gee guys, don't want to start an oil war. Anyway, if I lived "up North" which I 
used to, I would not own a diesel, but that's just my choice. As to the oil, 
I've said before, my Indie put synthetic in my 1980 300SD once, it started 
leaking a lot, so I returned to him with 2 gallons of Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 and 
he replaced the oil. Shortly thereafter, the leaking returned to the normal 
seeping. I also use Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my 1983 300D. The 300SD has over 
425,000 miles and has never had the head off or any other engine work. The 300D 
has over 360,000 miles and the same applies. I also tried synthetic in my 2001 
Dodge Ram 5.9 engine truck. It started to leak out of the front and rear main 
seals. I returned it to the Valvoline Max and the seals resealed themselves in 
short order. I do run Mobil synthetic in my Ford Escape v-6 which my daughter 
gave me. It was run on synthetic for the first 100,000, so I continue to use it 
for oil changes. 
My position is that you should use the oil that makes you feel comfortable 
regardless of what anyone else uses. Your experience will be yours as mine will 
be mine. 
Good luck and best wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I'm with you Karl, I ran 616 engines many tens of thousands of miles on 
synthetic with no ills. Marshall contended that it cut chain stretch to nearly 
nothing but chains last a long time anyway.
For those of us in the frozen north cold start ability is important...
Curt

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  On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes wrote:   If I ever redo the wagon it will get a 
nice leather interior from World, or
Harry if I can afford him, which I cannot.

My 617 has been running fine on synthetic for the last 15 years or so. I
prefer 5w40, but have been known to run 15w50 in season. They say the
average owner will never see any difference in longevity, but cold starts
are definitely easier than with nonsynthetic. Anyway I do not buy the oil
leak argument. They all leak and blowby is blowby.

On Apr 21, 2017 6:52 AM, "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had
> the leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and
> probably what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was
> repainted about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes,
> he should have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up
> the console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks,
> he may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that
> era don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's
> asking too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the
> carpet. Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat
> construction (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is
> still going with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only
> replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22
> years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
> Just some personal info to add.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-23 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

If I ever redo the wagon it will get a nice leather interior from World, or
Harry if I can afford him, which I cannot.

My 617 has been running fine on synthetic for the last 15 years or so. I
prefer 5w40, but have been known to run 15w50 in season. They say the
average owner will never see any difference in longevity, but cold starts
are definitely easier than with nonsynthetic. Anyway I do not buy the oil
leak argument. They all leak and blowby is blowby.

On Apr 21, 2017 6:52 AM, "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had
> the leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and
> probably what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was
> repainted about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes,
> he should have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up
> the console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks,
> he may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that
> era don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's
> asking too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the
> carpet. Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat
> construction (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is
> still going with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only
> replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22
> years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
> Just some personal info to add.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Dan, most of my career was spent as a business process analyst. My background 
includes TQM, process management, ISO9000, ITIL, and Six Sigma. Then sprinkle 
in software documentation and training along with management and project 
management. Although I started out in retail operations management, that only 
lasted about 4 years. My wife has pulled me back into retail. I've enjoyed 
doing many different things and enjoyed the challenge of trying something new. 
A career, like our lives, is a journey...try to make it interesting and 
enjoyable. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Pity.  I wasn't even going to charge him for s

On Apr 22, 2017 4:38 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> Guys - knock it off.  This is way off topic and becoming inappropriate.
>
> List Mom
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> > On Apr 22, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > liberals (Democratic socialists) are so gentle and caring!
> >
> >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> April 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM
> >>
> >> I'll ship him a bottle of hemlock.
> >>
> >> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> >> April 22, 2017 at 1:50 PM
> >>
> >> No pepper jam?
> >> tintin
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Guys - knock it off.  This is way off topic and becoming inappropriate.

List Mom


> On Apr 22, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> liberals (Democratic socialists) are so gentle and caring!
> 
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> April 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM
>> 
>> I'll ship him a bottle of hemlock.
>> 
>> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> April 22, 2017 at 1:50 PM
>> 
>> No pepper jam?
>> tintin
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes


liberals (Democratic socialists) are so gentle and caring!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
April 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM

I'll ship him a bottle of hemlock.

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
April 22, 2017 at 1:50 PM

No pepper jam?
tintin


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I'll ship him a bottle of hemlock.

On Apr 22, 2017 2:50 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
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> Andrew wrote:
> > ROFL.  Curley wins this week's witticism award.
>
> No pepper jam?
> tintin
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Andrew wrote:
> ROFL.  Curley wins this week's witticism award.

No pepper jam?
tintin

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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Roger wrote:
> And now that I'm retired...

What was yer occupation?  ...dinnerware now. but prior?
tintin

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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

I'll add that as a second middle name...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 22, 2017 10:34:40 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>"Immune from firing"
>
>He works for the gummint.
>
>Oops, so do you?
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 4/21/17 5:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?
>
>-- 
>--FT
>Winston Churchill:
>“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
>large or petty,
>never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
>of the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Not to mention that highly desirable color scheme of BEIGE ON BEIGE.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:15:42 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > This is sad, very sad. Completely wrong cheap carpeting, some sort of
> > generic vinyl upholstery, oil blowing all over the engine. This guy is
> > truly insane.
> >
> > RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!!
> > http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6091717027.html
>
> For $8999 one would expect better than that. The carpet up the underside
> of the dash is a bit much. He says, "new leather seat covers," but it
> certainly is not Benz leather.
>
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

ROFL.  Curley wins this week's witticism award.



On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Immune from firing"
>
> He works for the gummint.
>
> Oops, so do you?
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 4/21/17 5:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?
>>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


"Immune from firing"

He works for the gummint.

Oops, so do you?

--FT


On 4/21/17 5:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?


--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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2017-04-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Strasse is a street.   Fogle is an englishification of vogel.  Vogel is 
a bird.   So, strassevogel is a bird in the street, or a pigeon in the 
street, begging for a handout!



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
April 21, 2017 at 4:10 PM
If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?


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2017-04-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 21/04/2017 4:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?


don't ask - you might get fired

RB


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

If Zundfolge is firing order, what is Strasfogel?
-- 
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'95 E300

On April 21, 2017 4:37:13 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>Zundfolge is a bit of a joke among those who troll Craigslist. Its
>German for "firing order", the joke is because of the many fools on
>Craigslist who report having a "Rare Zundfolge Engine".
>-Curt
>
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>Cc: roger...@comcast.net
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>Subject: Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW
>OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
>   
>Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last
>617 version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum
>functions/connections for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is
>different. And of course it has the Chrysler servo. These things all
>changed with the 1981 126 300SD. 
>It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg
>when it was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26.
>The ride is what I like...really built like no other car for its time
>period. 
>Best Wishes, 
>Roger 
>Roger Hale 
>Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
>Monroe, Ga. 
>770-267-0850 
>www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Zundfolge is a bit of a joke among those who troll Craigslist. Its German for 
"firing order", the joke is because of the many fools on Craigslist who report 
having a "Rare Zundfolge Engine".
-Curt

  From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: "List, Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: roger...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:33 PM
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OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617 
version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum functions/connections 
for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. And of course it has the 
Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 1981 126 300SD. 
It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg when it 
was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26. The ride is what I 
like...really built like no other car for its time period. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 

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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

+1 to this and to Randy's prior post!.  Waytago!   over 400K on any car 
is exceptional in the US of A



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
April 21, 2017 at 1:43 PM
You can certainly take credit if you have been using good shops. The 
point is that you obviously care about the cars and have provided for 
them in one way or another.


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Roger,

"Zundfogle" is German for "firing order".  This was cast in the valve covers 
and heads of older MB engines for reference purposes. Sellers who don't know 
these cars like we do will often put a reference in their for sale ads about 
the "zundfogle" engines, thinking this term means there's something of great 
value relative to this.

It's sort of like the folks who refer to the laminated glass windows on the 
W140 models as being "bulletproof".

Always gives us a good chuckle

Dan

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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 2:33 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617 
> version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum 
> functions/connections for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. 
> And of course it has the Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 
> 1981 126 300SD. 
> It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg when 
> it was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26. The ride is 
> what I like...really built like no other car for its time period. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


Oh contrair, the 617 is THE MILLION MILE ENGINE!

--FT


On 4/21/17 2:24 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd, it's a 617 5cyc turbo. But I doubt it will last a million. At the miles 
I put on it now, it will probably outlast me, so I don't know.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

You can certainly take credit if you have been using good shops. The 
point is that you obviously care about the cars and have provided for 
them in one way or another.


RB

On 21/04/2017 1:39 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Randy, it's not my maintenance, wish I could take credit. Fortunately, over the 
20 plus years of ownership, I've had two great indy shops work on both my 617s. 
And now that I'm retired, neither gets driven very much. Plus, they have always 
been southern cars (SC and GA). I'll probably sell my 83 300D this year. I have 
four vehicles and just my wife and I so mostly it's one vehicle driven at a 
time.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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2017-04-21 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Randy, it's not my maintenance, wish I could take credit. Fortunately, over the 
20 plus years of ownership, I've had two great indy shops work on both my 617s. 
And now that I'm retired, neither gets driven very much. Plus, they have always 
been southern cars (SC and GA). I'll probably sell my 83 300D this year. I have 
four vehicles and just my wife and I so mostly it's one vehicle driven at a 
time. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617 
version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum functions/connections 
for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. And of course it has the 
Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 1981 126 300SD. 
It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg when it 
was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26. The ride is what I 
like...really built like no other car for its time period. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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2017-04-21 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Dan, the air is currently disconnected because the compressor went bad. I plan 
to put it back together in the next year as it's my wife's car and she likes to 
drive it but not without the air. It's been converted to 134a and when it works 
it does cool quite well. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
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Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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2017-04-21 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Floyd, it's a 617 5cyc turbo. But I doubt it will last a million. At the miles 
I put on it now, it will probably outlast me, so I don't know. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


Sadly, not all owners are as good at maintaining as you obviously are.

RB

On 21/04/2017 8:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used 
the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet 
is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that 
wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate 
synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if 
you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its 
plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the 
old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and 
yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the 
interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP

, turbo, etc.

Just some personal info to add.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


YOU MUST BE A AFISHIANADDO OF THE MERZAYDEEZ BENTS MARK

--FT


On 4/21/17 10:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

No, the question is does it have the rare Zundfolge engine that goes a million 
miles.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???

--FT



On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used 
the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet 
is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that 
wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate 
synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if 
you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its 
plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the 
old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and 
yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the 
interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, 
turbo, etc.
Just some personal info to add.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

40mpg?

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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And ICE COLD AIR, too?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had 
>>> the leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and 
>>> probably what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was 
>>> repainted about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, 
>>> he should have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up 
>>> the console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, 
>>> he may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that 
>>> era don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's 
>>> asking too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the 
>>> carpet. Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat 
>>> construction (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is 
>>> still going with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only 
>>> replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22 
>>> years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
>>> Just some personal info to add.
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> 
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>> Winston Churchill:
>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
>> or petty,
>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
>> the enemy.”
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2017-04-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

No, the question is does it have the rare Zundfolge engine that goes a million 
miles.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
>> leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
>> what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted 
>> about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should 
>> have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the 
>> console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he 
>> may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era 
>> don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking 
>> too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. 
>> Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction 
>> (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going 
>> with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny 
>> at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still 
>> has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
>> Just some personal info to add.
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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2017-04-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Hey, you know what?  My new hot rod BLOWS ICE COLD.  That just surprises 
me to no end.  I like putting the windows down though and listening to 
that V8.


--FT


On 4/21/17 10:01 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

And ICE COLD AIR, too?


Sent from my iPad


On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???

--FT



On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used 
the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet 
is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that 
wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate 
synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if 
you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its 
plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the 
old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and 
yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the 
interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, 
turbo, etc.
Just some personal info to add.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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2017-04-21 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

And ICE COLD AIR, too?


Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
>> leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
>> what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted 
>> about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should 
>> have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the 
>> console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he 
>> may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era 
>> don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking 
>> too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. 
>> Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction 
>> (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going 
>> with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny 
>> at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still 
>> has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc.
>> Just some personal info to add.
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


Does your car have the MILLION MILE ENGINE???

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On 4/21/17 9:52 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used 
the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet 
is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that 
wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate 
synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if 
you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its 
plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the 
old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and 
yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the 
interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, 
turbo, etc.
Just some personal info to add.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the 
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably 
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used 
the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet 
is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that 
wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate 
synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if 
you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its 
plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the 
old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and 
yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the 
interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, 
 turbo, etc. 
Just some personal info to add. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes


ONCE SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN

--FT


On 4/20/17 9:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

This is sad, very sad. Completely wrong cheap carpeting, some sort of generic 
vinyl upholstery, oil blowing all over the engine. This guy is truly insane.

RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!!
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] RESTORED 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999

2017-04-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:15:42 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> This is sad, very sad. Completely wrong cheap carpeting, some sort of
> generic vinyl upholstery, oil blowing all over the engine. This guy is
> truly insane.
> 
> RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!!
> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6091717027.html

For $8999 one would expect better than that. The carpet up the underside
of the dash is a bit much. He says, "new leather seat covers," but it
certainly is not Benz leather.


Craig

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