Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

One minor quibble with the PPI:
The A/C is as cold as R12 used to get back in the day...

To the best of my recollection, the A/C on an old big block wagon could freeze
the front seat passengers. The distribution system might not have been up to
modern standards, but what came out of the vents was under 40 degrees.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Who said it was?  I just love its vast, unapologetic excesses.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 1:18 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I had a nearly identical 71 Chrysler T & C.  Gold or bronze in color.
> Bought new in  Apr '71; SWMBO sold it in '78 while I was in Greenland.
> Mighty good-driving, good-riding car, not as good as a  126 or 124, though.
>
> W
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> This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive
>> size.  It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function
>> rear hatch - the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows
>> except for the tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I had a nearly identical 71 Chrysler T & C.  Gold or bronze in color. 
Bought new in  Apr '71; SWMBO sold it in '78 while I was in Greenland. 
Mighty good-driving, good-riding car, not as good as a  126 or 124, though.


W

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Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT



This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive
size.  It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function
rear hatch - the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows
except for the tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had a Sentra rental in LA a couple months ago, I took to calling it the 
"gutless wonder". I'd stomp on the pedal, the transmission would shift, the 
engine would make lots of noise and not much else would happen. If you'd asked 
I would have guessed around 100hp and it makes its power way up high in the RPM 
range so its very buzzy.
-Curt

  From: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT
   
Speaking of HP numbers a friend of mine secretly purchased an 83 Cadillac 
Fleetwood Brougham Coupe recently. I was doing a little research for him.  The 
4100 engine is rated at 135 HP.  I was wondering just how small a car you would 
have to buy now for such low horsepower.  I discovered that a 2016 Nissan 
Sentra has a 1.8L 4 cylinder that produces 130 HP.  Or a 2016 Toyota Corolla 
with a 1.8L produces 132 Horsepower.  Isn't it amazing to look back at cars we 
thought were fast and see they were producing 150 (or less) Horsepower!  Now, 
175-200 HP is pretty ordinary and available on relatively cheap and small cars. 
 It surprises me how far we have come.  

I think it is also interesting to think about the fact that 150,000 miles is 
pretty typical with newer cars.  Now, a cheap mid size car will run for 200,000 
miles without many major repairs.  Remember the days when that was only true 
for Mercedes and a few other cars? 

Don Snook 

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From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

Pre-malaise era 440, the HP number isn't exciting, the 5.7l in my RAM is rated 
at 345HP but the torque number, 350#ft and its probably all down low, what a 
stump puller!
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:47 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT
  
This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive size.  
It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function rear hatch - 
the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows except for the 
tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Personally, I like the clamshell wagons the best.  I haven't seen the light on 
the fuselage cars.  They look bloated and odd.  

Don Snook 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:48 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive size.  
It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function rear hatch - 
the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows except for the 
tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Speaking of HP numbers a friend of mine secretly purchased an 83 Cadillac 
Fleetwood Brougham Coupe recently. I was doing a little research for him.  The 
4100 engine is rated at 135 HP.  I was wondering just how small a car you would 
have to buy now for such low horsepower.  I discovered that a 2016 Nissan 
Sentra has a 1.8L 4 cylinder that produces 130 HP.   Or a 2016 Toyota Corolla 
with a 1.8L produces 132 Horsepower.  Isn't it amazing to look back at cars we 
thought were fast and see they were producing 150 (or less) Horsepower!  Now, 
175-200 HP is pretty ordinary and available on relatively cheap and small cars. 
  It surprises me how far we have come.  

I think it is also interesting to think about the fact that 150,000 miles is 
pretty typical with newer cars.  Now, a cheap mid size car will run for 200,000 
miles without many major repairs.  Remember the days when that was only true 
for Mercedes and a few other cars? 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curt Raymond [mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

Pre-malaise era 440, the HP number isn't exciting, the 5.7l in my RAM is rated 
at 345HP but the torque number, 350#ft and its probably all down low, what a 
stump puller!
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:47 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT
   
This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive size.  
It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function rear hatch - 
the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows except for the 
tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Tie me down NOW.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pre-malaise era 440, the HP number isn't exciting, the 5.7l in my RAM is
> rated at 345HP but the torque number, 350#ft and its probably all down low,
> what a stump puller!
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:47 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT
>
> This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive
> size.  It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function
> rear hatch - the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows
> except for the tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Pre-malaise era 440, the HP number isn't exciting, the 5.7l in my RAM is rated 
at 345HP but the torque number, 350#ft and its probably all down low, what a 
stump puller!
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:47 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT
   
This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive
size.  It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function
rear hatch - the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows
except for the tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Town and Country wagon on BAT

2016-09-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Andrew... you know you have to have it.. it's got your name on it already..

Don't worry.. the 440 engine only uses about 8 miles to the gallon.. the 38
gallon fuel tank only needs be filled once per day with regular driving..



On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> This car is incredible - the last of an era of cheap gas and excessive
> size.  It appeals to my basest instincts.  Gotta love that dual function
> rear hatch - the very acme of early 1970s  technology.  Has crank windows
> except for the tailgate glass which is electric. wtf!
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-chrysler-town-country/
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