Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I hate my local dealerships. You are very lucky to have a dealership that works with you and is knowledgeable. That's why I use the Classic Center. No nonsense, fair pricing, fast shipping. Tom Hanson is truly a gem of a person. He is also a true enthusiast, goes to MB events, and concours. I went to June Jamboree a couple of years ago and a bunch of us and Tom went out to dinner. That is what I call a good relationship with a parts guy! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I’ve heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I’m sorry that other dealers don’t have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
If you get the chance to got there its absolutely worth it.Heres pics from my trip a couple years ago: http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/Mercedes_Classic_Center?sort=3page=1 I've met Tom in person, also another guy who's name escapes me although I have his card around somewhere. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. On Monday, January 19, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com javascript:; wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Yeah, I've never been crazy about this design - there are so many much easier methods to adjust alts, Compressors, etc. Speaking of compressors - I am considering removing this York - the AC has never worked properly and removing it will provide more room to work in the engine bay. It's a 78 240D and it was in poor condition when I bought it. I rebuilt the engine and it is running great but the tranny is starting to do strange things and the rust is really taking over in the rockers.I have considered sending it to the scrap yard but it starts every time i ask it and it's nice to have it around when I don't want to drive the 911 and my wife has the 91 300D. I am going in all kinds of directions on this and just can't decide. Thx larry On 1/19/2015 10:44 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. On Jan 19, 2015, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Be glad it's not one of the bolts with the rod welded to the side of the bolt head that threads on to the bushing to tighten and loosen. When I was looking up the toothed bolt I saw one of these and the bolt was $60. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take it out, weld it up, cut new teeth into it. I'd always planned to do that to my '78 before I conned Dimitri into taking it. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I always released the upper and lower bolt but a PO did some damage that's hard to fix without replacing. Thx for the comments -- Larry On 1/19/2015 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. Yup On one of mine, the rack is chewed up and I adjust it with a breaker bar behind the alt to tension the belt while I try to tighten everything down. The rack and pinion adjuster is elegant, but too many ham fisted clowns ruin them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Be glad it's not one of the bolts with the rod welded to the side of
the bolt head that threads on to the bushing to tighten and loosen.
When I was looking up the toothed bolt I saw one of these and the
bolt was $60.
Dan
I've made those, and they don't cost me $60. ('course, they were
not pretty and plated, but they worked.)
What we oughta do is get Rich to make up some 14 ga steel strips with
the teeth cut in on his CNC. Then we could just grind out the side,
and weld in the the new teeth. THen we could have WORKING
alternator adjusters.
Seriously, if someone can measure and create a drawing, I have a
friend with a waterjet. It shouldn't cost that much to get him to
cut 20 or so as a production run. I'd take a couple.
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Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Take it out, weld it up, cut new teeth into it. I'd always planned to do that to my '78 before I conned Dimitri into taking it. -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:28 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
The few things I have bought from CC were no more than the dealer prices -- LarryT On 1/19/2015 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Good to know. I wasn’t sure - I’ve only seen things that were NLA they come up with that seem to be really, really expensive. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:35 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The few things I have bought from CC were no more than the dealer prices -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I’ve heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I’m sorry that other dealers don’t have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. On Monday, January 19, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com javascript:; wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. On Jan 19, 2015, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I've heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I'm sorry that other dealers don't have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. You are indeed lucky to have a good stealer. They are few and far between. The stealer here is such a crook I won't set foot inside. Its a 100 mile trip anyway. The only dealerships I will deal with now are ones that advertise in the star for a long time. When H.K. had his dealership I (and many others) would drive a long way to go there, but mostly I just bought parts from him over the phone. H.K had a barn full of obsolete parts that he would let me pick through, then buy stuff for pennies on the $. There used to be a long time dealership in Pekin, Il and I used to mail order parts from them. But they are long gone too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. Yup On one of mine, the rack is chewed up and I adjust it with a breaker bar behind the alt to tension the belt while I try to tighten everything down. The rack and pinion adjuster is elegant, but too many ham fisted clowns ruin them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:28 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
