Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
Curt, I'm not an expert on the MB buzzer box as I've never had the pleasure of taking one apart but if what you saw was a small black box piece with two connections in there that would do the buzzing, you might want to get an after market add-on buzzer at someplace like Autozone or Advance sometimes Walmart. They are usually small (1/2 x 3/4 x1/2 inch or less) with two wires coming out that you would hook between the headlight and the ignition wires. They don't cost more than 3-5 bucks and may work in place of that little black box thingie. Do a temp solder job on the wires to the black box input and then if it works just replace the box with this one and use a bit of epoxy to hold it in place. If you need it to be louder then drill a big enough hole in the plastic overcase and glue the buzzer to that with the sound opening to the hole. Manfred Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have taken pictures, what you're describing seems in no way to relate to what I saw. Inside the casing I found NO moving parts, just a little black box buzzer thing which made very little noise. I also saw no way for it to contact the case... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
I should have taken pictures, what you're describing seems in no way to relate to what I saw. Inside the casing I found NO moving parts, just a little black box buzzer thing which made very little noise. I also saw no way for it to contact the case... -Curt Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 18:33:35 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buzzer To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. It would be. The little weight on the end of the flapper arm is supposed to bang into the wall of the plastic cover. It should move briskly. Any bad electrolytic capacitors in the area? You can usually tack-solder a junkyard one in parallel and see if it makes a difference. -- Jim - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
Inside the casing I found NO moving parts, just a little black box buzzer thing which made very little noise. I also saw no way for it to contact the case... Yours is different than mine then. The older cars had a definitely more anemic peeper inside than the vigorous buzz of our later cars. The earlier ones are just a relay rigged to cut its own power when actuated. Makes enough noise doing so to serve as a sounder. You could try replacing that relay with another one from a surplus site or something like that. The new ones do no more than hum a bit when the case is off, 'cause the little hammer's not hitting anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. Resoldered a couple joints that looked poor. Didn't help, in fact its quieter now. Achhh they're $72... Unless Seat Belt Warning Relay isn't it. It sure looks like it. Oh list mom, I don't suppose you have one used? Looks like the W123 cars use the same one as the W201 or at least the '85 190D. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. Resoldered a couple joints that looked poor. Didn't help, in fact its quieter now. Achhh they're $72... Unless Seat Belt Warning Relay isn't it. It sure looks like it. Can you splice in a generic noisemaker across the terminals of the old one rather than replacing the whole box? I've thought about doing a similar operation just to change the sound of the buzzer on my cars to something that would get on my nerves less first thing in the morning. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
Probably but theres like 8 or 10 pins, gonna take some time with the multi-meter. I'm guessing they don't fail a lot, hoping used is an option. -Curt Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:03:28 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buzzer To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. Resoldered a couple joints that looked poor. Didn't help, in fact its quieter now. Achhh they're $72... Unless Seat Belt Warning Relay isn't it. It sure looks like it. Can you splice in a generic noisemaker across the terminals of the old one rather than replacing the whole box? I've thought about doing a similar operation just to change the sound of the buzzer on my cars to something that would get on my nerves less first thing in the morning. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. It would be. The little weight on the end of the flapper arm is supposed to bang into the wall of the plastic cover. It should move briskly. Any bad electrolytic capacitors in the area? You can usually tack-solder a junkyard one in parallel and see if it makes a difference. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
In a message dated 5/6/2008 4:39:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Found the buzzer. No obvious reason for it to be quiet. Took the outer cover off, the buzzy bit is still very quiet. Resoldered a couple joints that looked poor. Didn't help, in fact its quieter now. Achhh they're $72... Unless Seat Belt Warning Relay isn't it. It sure looks like it. Oh list mom, I don't suppose you have one used? Looks like the W123 cars use the same one as the W201 or at least the '85 190D. Curt, Does it have a part number on it? I have a box of relays to sort through. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buzzer
So: Where does the buzzer live? What do I need to buy to replace it? The buzzer in a 190D is bolted against the side kick panel in the footwell, it uses the side of its own plastic case as a sounding board. If you pull the relay apart you'll see how it works. I suspect yours isn't working right if it sounds notably different than any other similarly-vintaged model. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
