Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Wow! That sounds interesting. We have auctions here on Tues Thurs - I think I'll try to watch what happens this evening We started having another problem recently - one of the ball socket assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week - once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question its reliability. I'll order new Ball docket today so hopefully that will fix it I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next? Thanks for the info -- LarryT On 9/1/2014 12:58 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in the pits. You can snag a good example for under $2k. The 2007-2011 models maybe hit 3k clay On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Larry, If you have the plastic socket ends, try to replace them with metal. I was able to get some new from MB after much EPC research, but I have also found them at the junk yard on the 123 126 diesels. Note each rod has left-hand threads one end, right-hand at other end. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 6:28 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We started having another problem recently - one of the ball socket assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week - once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question its reliability. I'll order new Ball docket today so hopefully that will fix it I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Thanks Max - I have also replaced a couple with metal. This one has one end buried under the manifold making access difficult.But the good news is my Weber Carb Parts distributor has the correct threaded rods he will cut to order for me.But I may have to RR the manifold to measure the rod length and check the orientation of each rod end. I plan to order the rod and ball pin today from MB - they'll have it tomorrow and that will allow me to restore some reliability in the accelerator linkage... The fun just never ends ;-) Thanks again for the comments - LarryT On 9/2/2014 7:09 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Larry, If you have the plastic socket ends, try to replace them with metal. I was able to get some new from MB after much EPC research, but I have also found them at the junk yard on the 123 126 diesels. Note each rod has left-hand threads one end, right-hand at other end. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 6:28 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We started having another problem recently - one of the ball socket assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week - once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question its reliability. I'll order new Ball docket today so hopefully that will fix it I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Part of reliability is fixing everything as it fails. If you'd fixed a failed ball socket when it failed the first time you wouldn't have this consideration. It also means looking over things on a regular basis. As a car ages you need greater vigilance. You could switch over and drive a Hyundai but somebody used to Mercedes and Porsche isn't going to be happy with anything short of the Genesis and maybe not even then. Go try a Passat, I had one as a rental last week and it drove real well although I wasn't really happy with the DSG but I suspect most people won't care. -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon Wow! That sounds interesting. We have auctions here on Tues Thurs - I think I'll try to watch what happens this evening We started having another problem recently - one of the ball socket assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week - once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question its reliability. I'll order new Ball docket today so hopefully that will fix it I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next? Thanks for the info -- LarryT On 9/1/2014 12:58 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in the pits. You can snag a good example for under $2k. The 2007-2011 models maybe hit 3k clay On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
they suck major league in any kind of snow or slippery surface. Worse than a Camaro? Easily cured with proper snow tires, and some sandbags in the trunk over the rear axle. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in the pits. You can snag a good example for under $2k. The 2007-2011 models maybe hit 3k clay On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
I would definitely take a later model W140 over a Crown Vic any day. No comparison whatsoever. The W140 is a far more solid car, and you can tell by just driving it. That's not taking the amenities into consideration. Dan On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:58 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in the pits. You can snag a good example for under $2k. The 2007-2011 models maybe hit 3k clay -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Thanks for that report - I've seen 03-05 CVs in the $2.5 to $3K range. Larry On 8/31/2014 8:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
I had a 1998 Crown Vic for a company car when I lived in Indianapolis. While there's nothing outstanding about them in general, they are pretty durable, get decent gas mileage considering the HP/weight ratio, and are relatively comfortable to cruise on the highway in (not compared to a W126 or W140, however.) They're pretty cheap to maintain as well. I will say that they suck major league in any kind of snow or slippery surface. Mine couldn't get up the driveway when it was wet or with even a light dusting of snow. Granted, some of that is due to it being a rear wheel drive car, but the ass end was so light compared to the rest of the car you had to be really careful when applying power in slippery situations or you would end up doing an unintentional doughnut. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
