Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
HAHA thats funny Dan Weeks wrote: on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick aluminum shield. Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the time. Here's what happened: Bombing down a backroad in northern Maine. Long, steep downhill, very rough. Brother cruising down the hill, speed limit 45, on the Poo-goat's bottomless suspension at about 75, no problem. Cop comes after him. Brother opens the 'goat up, which on a steep downhill resulted in a mechanically governed top speed of an indicated 100mph. By this time, his wheels are often off the ground, but since he's up against the governor, he hardly notices, as the revs don't change, and all that suspension travel was acting like it was made for touch-and-go landings. Still, cruiser gaining fast, but brother just kept his foot down and waited for the inevitable, as he knew the road well. Looks in the mirror to see the cruiser sail off a bump into midair and come down nose-first at a pretty steep angle midway up the next bump. Car parts go every where, including a big chunk of the pan. Cruiser coasted to a stop. Brother did not. Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Brian Chase wrote: I don't think the old Chrysler products had any more problem with stock oil pan clearance than any other make. Perhaps it was due to the tank-like dimensions of that Fury III coupled with insufficient suspension. Woulda been a Fury I, many came from the factory with high capacity oil pans as well as many other mods. Suspension,tires,wheels,brakes, engine block/heads, cooling system, intake, exhaust, Mallory ignition, trans, oil coolers, cool pans and tranny coolers, high volume/pressure oil pumps, rear end/axles, steering gear and pump, blue silicone core hoses, electrical wiring, alternator, interior lighting, even the seats were cop seats. Most came with a certified speedo in-dash and a Stewart Warner roundy with Tattle Tale needle on the hump. I worked at a Chrysler dealer in the 70s. We did the dealer prep and other extras that my boss contracted for. The cops usually installed all their own electronics and emergency lighting. I was young and had the time of my life beating the snot out of cop cars. I even bought a few over the years at auction. I wanna say my 1970 Fury 1 eX NY Trooper car weighed right around 3,200#. 440CID,Torqueflite, 2.72:1 Dana Sure-Grip real fast. Johnny B iMac therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Brian Chase wrote: I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 'A Body'. Most PD Volares,Asprins and Diplomats ran 318 4-barrels. The vette would eat the 360 any way. Johnny B iMac therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Whatever the case, I'm just distancing myself from any smog-controlled, air conditioned, lowered compression engine such as showed up in the early '70s. My 440 has eaten her share of Chevy big blocks - yes, even in the Holy Vette. You're bringing out the kid in me. Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:38:21 -0500 On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Brian Chase wrote: I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 'A Body'. Most PD Volares,Asprins and Diplomats ran 318 4-barrels. The vette would eat the 360 any way. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance. Brian If indeed such a thing exists. Johnny B iMac therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Allright, now you've insulted my honor. Tee hee. Brian From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:24:49 -0500 On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance. Brian If indeed such a thing exists. Johnny B iMac therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car' story--Vive La France! On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the time. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
I don't think the old Chrysler products had any more problem with stock oil pan clearance than any other make. Perhaps it was due to the tank-like dimensions of that Fury III coupled with insufficient suspension. Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.) Brian 83 240D 68 Dodge Coronet 500 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:20:25 -0800 Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car' story--Vive La France! On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the time. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Brian Chase wrote: Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.) I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him. Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to run away.
Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 'A Body'. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:34:02 -0500 Brian Chase wrote: Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.) I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him. Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to run away. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/