Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

HAHA thats funny

Dan Weeks wrote:


on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil
pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below
the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's
a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with
dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick
aluminum shield.

Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police 
interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most 
humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was 
that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the 
time.


Here's what happened: Bombing down a backroad in northern Maine. 
Long, steep downhill, very rough. Brother cruising down the hill, 
speed limit 45, on the Poo-goat's bottomless suspension at about 75, 
no problem. Cop comes after him. Brother opens the 'goat up, which on 
a steep downhill resulted in a mechanically governed top speed of an 
indicated 100mph. By this time, his wheels are often off the ground, 
but since he's up against the governor, he hardly notices, as the 
revs don't change, and all that suspension travel was acting like it 
was made for touch-and-go landings. Still, cruiser gaining fast, but 
brother just kept his foot down and waited for the inevitable, as he 
knew the road well. Looks in the mirror to see the cruiser sail off a 
bump into midair and come down nose-first at a pretty steep angle 
midway up the next bump. Car parts go every where, including a big 
chunk of the pan. Cruiser coasted to a stop. Brother did not.


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread John Berryman


On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

I don't think the old Chrysler products had any more problem with  
stock oil pan clearance than any other make. Perhaps it was due to  
the tank-like dimensions of that Fury III coupled with insufficient  
suspension.


	Woulda been a Fury I, many came from the factory with high capacity  
oil pans as well as many other mods. Suspension,tires,wheels,brakes,  
engine block/heads, cooling system, intake, exhaust, Mallory  
ignition, trans, oil coolers, cool pans and tranny coolers, high  
volume/pressure oil pumps, rear end/axles, steering gear and pump,  
blue silicone core hoses, electrical wiring, alternator, interior  
lighting, even the seats were cop seats. Most came with a certified  
speedo in-dash and a Stewart Warner roundy with Tattle Tale needle on  
the hump.
	I worked at a Chrysler dealer in the 70s. We did the dealer prep and  
other extras that my boss contracted for. The cops usually installed  
all their own electronics and emergency lighting. I was young and had  
the time of my life beating the snot out of cop cars. I even bought a  
few over the years at auction. I wanna say my 1970 Fury 1 eX NY  
Trooper car weighed right around 3,200#. 440CID,Torqueflite, 2.72:1  
Dana Sure-Grip real fast.



Johnny B
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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread John Berryman


On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any  
muscle car
post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a  
360 CID

'A Body'.


	Most PD Volares,Asprins and Diplomats ran 318 4-barrels. The vette  
would eat the 360 any way.


Johnny B
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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread Brian Chase
Whatever the case, I'm just distancing myself from any smog-controlled, air 
conditioned, lowered compression engine such as showed up in the early '70s. 
My 440 has eaten her share of Chevy big blocks - yes, even in the Holy 
Vette. You're bringing out the kid in me. Now must turn thoughts back to 
240D performance.


Brian


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On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

 I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any
 muscle car
 post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a
 360 CID
 'A Body'.

Most PD Volares,Asprins and Diplomats ran 318 4-barrels. The vette
would eat the 360 any way.

Johnny B
iMac therefore I am



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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread John Berryman


On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Brian Chase wrote:


Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance.

Brian


If indeed such a thing exists.

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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-19 Thread Brian Chase

Allright, now you've insulted my honor. Tee hee.

Brian


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On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

 Now must turn thoughts back to 240D performance.

 Brian

If indeed such a thing exists.

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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Zeitgeist
Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car'
story--Vive La France!

On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police
 interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most
 humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was
 that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the
 time.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Brian Chase
I don't think the old Chrysler products had any more problem with stock oil 
pan clearance than any other make. Perhaps it was due to the tank-like 
dimensions of that Fury III coupled with insufficient suspension.


Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's 
finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)


Brian
83 240D
68 Dodge Coronet 500


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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:20:25 -0800

Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car'
story--Vive La France!

On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police
 interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most
 humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was
 that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the
 time.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Brian Chase wrote:
 
 Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's
 finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)

I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about
when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running
flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him. 
Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle
U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser
to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to
run away.



Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Brian Chase
I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car 
post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 
'A Body'.



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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:34:02 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:

 Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran 
Tucson's

 finest (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)

I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about
when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running
flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him.
Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle
U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser
to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to
run away.

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