Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My brother swears by Buicks, with the correct engine.  Bulletproof,
parts readily available, can be serviced everywhere and by anyone.

But, they're GM.

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Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 And new headgaskets every 100,000 miles or so. Subaru apologists bury that 
under "regular maintenance".
-Curt

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 GM 3.4 is junk. Leaking intake gaskets into the engine kills them. Properly 
repaired, with documentation, maybe. Subaru can be a great car, with new head 
gaskets, and fresh timing belt. Again, documentation is key. 

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Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In certain areas, yes. Around where I live, not so much, but if you go over by 
the coast where the mother in law lives, they come up pretty regularly as the 
old duffers bite it.

-D

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There ought be a lot of those in Flahdah, all the geezers down there. 
> 
> My MIL had one that when she got too old to drive I suggested she give it to 
> her daughter (my SIL) for her boys to drive. I think 2 or 3 of them drove it 
> for a few years until it got “too old” (they don’t no nuffin bout cars) so 
> they gave it away to some charity outfit. It was rough but still seemed to be 
> running ok. I had driven it a few times and it was your basic boring 
> transportation appliance but did its job. That’s what you need. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. Find a blue hair car from the late 90s/early 00s and you should be 
>> good. Buicks of that time frame are pretty bulletproof. Mother in law had 
>> one she sold off to a friend when the father in law bit it, and she took 
>> over “his” car, also a later model nicer Buick. She barely puts $100/year in 
>> the car except when it needs tires, just oil changes.
>> 
>> I’ve shopped the Asian cars and you’re exactly on point. While they’re an 
>> excellent choice for the reasons you’re looking, when they dip into the sub 
>> $4k/$5k range they’re usually used up. When they hit around 160-180k the 
>> costs start to go up significantly. Buying one with 120k is a good deal.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
>>> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
>>> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
>>> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
>>> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but 
>>> those usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. 
>>> Somehow it started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k 
>>> car. Seems a decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really 
>>> interested in working on it at all but would know how to work on some sort 
>>> of MB if it came down to it. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There ought be a lot of those in Flahdah, all the geezers down there. 

My MIL had one that when she got too old to drive I suggested she give it to 
her daughter (my SIL) for her boys to drive. I think 2 or 3 of them drove it 
for a few years until it got “too old” (they don’t no nuffin bout cars) so they 
gave it away to some charity outfit. It was rough but still seemed to be 
running ok. I had driven it a few times and it was your basic boring 
transportation appliance but did its job. That’s what you need. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed. Find a blue hair car from the late 90s/early 00s and you should be 
> good. Buicks of that time frame are pretty bulletproof. Mother in law had one 
> she sold off to a friend when the father in law bit it, and she took over 
> “his” car, also a later model nicer Buick. She barely puts $100/year in the 
> car except when it needs tires, just oil changes.
> 
> I’ve shopped the Asian cars and you’re exactly on point. While they’re an 
> excellent choice for the reasons you’re looking, when they dip into the sub 
> $4k/$5k range they’re usually used up. When they hit around 160-180k the 
> costs start to go up significantly. Buying one with 120k is a good deal.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
>> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
>> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
>> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
>> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but those 
>> usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. Somehow it 
>> started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k car. Seems a 
>> decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really interested in 
>> working on it at all but would know how to work on some sort of MB if it 
>> came down to it. 
>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, I figured a blue hair type car from those years would be ideal. Sadly I 
guess that’s not the type of car they are looking for. I guess they can be on 
their own with it. 

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed. Find a blue hair car from the late 90s/early 00s and you should be 
> good. Buicks of that time frame are pretty bulletproof. Mother in law had one 
> she sold off to a friend when the father in law bit it, and she took over 
> “his” car, also a later model nicer Buick. She barely puts $100/year in the 
> car except when it needs tires, just oil changes.
> 
> I’ve shopped the Asian cars and you’re exactly on point. While they’re an 
> excellent choice for the reasons you’re looking, when they dip into the sub 
> $4k/$5k range they’re usually used up. When they hit around 160-180k the 
> costs start to go up significantly. Buying one with 120k is a good deal.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
>> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
>> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
>> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
>> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but those 
>> usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. Somehow it 
>> started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k car. Seems a 
>> decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really interested in 
>> working on it at all but would know how to work on some sort of MB if it 
>> came down to it. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. Find a blue hair car from the late 90s/early 00s and you should be 
good. Buicks of that time frame are pretty bulletproof. Mother in law had one 
she sold off to a friend when the father in law bit it, and she took over “his” 
car, also a later model nicer Buick. She barely puts $100/year in the car 
except when it needs tires, just oil changes.

I’ve shopped the Asian cars and you’re exactly on point. While they’re an 
excellent choice for the reasons you’re looking, when they dip into the sub 
$4k/$5k range they’re usually used up. When they hit around 160-180k the costs 
start to go up significantly. Buying one with 120k is a good deal.

-D

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but those 
> usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. Somehow it 
> started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k car. Seems a 
> decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really interested in working 
> on it at all but would know how to work on some sort of MB if it came down to 
> it. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finding a car for kid

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

NO!


OK Don via Mercedes 
March 1, 2020 at 2:32 PM
That 240D you just picked up ...

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> What are the good GM v6 engines?

3800  That’s it.

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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea true. 

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I bet he'd love that slammed and stacked 300D! Only $1700, use the remaining 
> $ to get some 22s yo!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 1, 2020 2:58:49 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
>> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
>> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
>> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
>> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but those 
>> usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. Somehow it 
>> started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k car. Seems a 
>> decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really interested in 
>> working on it at all but would know how to work on some sort of MB if it 
>> came down to it.
>> 
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What are the good GM v6 engines? 

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> GM 3.4 is junk. Leaking intake gaskets into the engine kills them. Properly 
> repaired, with documentation, maybe. Subaru can be a great car, with new head 
> gaskets, and fresh timing belt. Again, documentation is key. 
> 
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[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

GM 3.4 is junk. Leaking intake gaskets into the engine kills them. Properly 
repaired, with documentation, maybe. Subaru can be a great car, with new head 
gaskets, and fresh timing belt. Again, documentation is key. 

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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Also keep in mind this will be a car that will receive practically zero 
maintenance I am sure 

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> So I sent the wife a few Buick Lesabre with the 3800. One was an 04 with 
> 130k miles they wanted $1500 for. Another was a 04 Impala with the 3.4 v6 has 
> 200k miles for $1k. Both of those looked pretty decent to me. She keeps 
> sending me these Chevy HHRs for $2500 or so and a 03 Subaru Outback with 3.0 
> awd wagon for $2500. No mention of how many miles are on it. I guess she can 
> figure it out if that’s what she wants. I’m still not sure what is wrong with 
> the car he already has.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Corolla or a Camry. Any year Camry with the four banger. 2003 or newer 
>> Corolla. A '96 or '97 Corolla would be fine. The 1999-2002 Corolla have oil 
>> ring issues, and if the oil level is not checked often, the engine is toast. 
>> Honda automatics suck.  Domestic cars, Ford Crown Vic and Mercury Marquis 
>> are reliable.They had issues with the intake coolant leak on certain years. 
>> A GM with the 3800 is a good choice also, but the rest of the car may be 
>> $h*t.
>> 
>> An old man or old lady owned Camry or Crown Vic would be my first choice.  
>> 
>> I would NOT put him in a W210. Too many potential issues for an unmaintained 
>> car. 
>> 
>> You asked. 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

He can’t drive a manual. 

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> That 240D you just picked up ...
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:21 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Corolla or a Camry. Any year Camry with the four banger. 2003 or newer
>> Corolla. A '96 or '97 Corolla would be fine. The 1999-2002 Corolla have oil
>> ring issues, and if the oil level is not checked often, the engine is
>> toast. Honda automatics suck.  Domestic cars, Ford Crown Vic and Mercury
>> Marquis are reliable.They had issues with the intake coolant leak on
>> certain years. A GM with the 3800 is a good choice also, but the rest of
>> the car may be $h*t.
>> 
>> An old man or old lady owned Camry or Crown Vic would be my first choice.
>> 
>> I would NOT put him in a W210. Too many potential issues for an
>> unmaintained car.
>> 
>> You asked.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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So I sent the wife a few Buick Lesabre with the 3800. One was an 04 with 130k 
miles they wanted $1500 for. Another was a 04 Impala with the 3.4 v6 has 200k 
miles for $1k. Both of those looked pretty decent to me. She keeps sending me 
these Chevy HHRs for $2500 or so and a 03 Subaru Outback with 3.0 awd wagon for 
$2500. No mention of how many miles are on it. I guess she can figure it out if 
that’s what she wants. I’m still not sure what is wrong with the car he already 
has.

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> On Mar 1, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Corolla or a Camry. Any year Camry with the four banger. 2003 or newer 
> Corolla. A '96 or '97 Corolla would be fine. The 1999-2002 Corolla have oil 
> ring issues, and if the oil level is not checked often, the engine is toast. 
> Honda automatics suck.  Domestic cars, Ford Crown Vic and Mercury Marquis are 
> reliable.They had issues with the intake coolant leak on certain years. A GM 
> with the 3800 is a good choice also, but the rest of the car may be $h*t.
> 
> An old man or old lady owned Camry or Crown Vic would be my first choice.  
> 
> I would NOT put him in a W210. Too many potential issues for an unmaintained 
> car. 
> 
> You asked. 
> 
> Rick
> 
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That 240D you just picked up ...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 2:21 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Corolla or a Camry. Any year Camry with the four banger. 2003 or newer
> Corolla. A '96 or '97 Corolla would be fine. The 1999-2002 Corolla have oil
> ring issues, and if the oil level is not checked often, the engine is
> toast. Honda automatics suck.  Domestic cars, Ford Crown Vic and Mercury
> Marquis are reliable.They had issues with the intake coolant leak on
> certain years. A GM with the 3800 is a good choice also, but the rest of
> the car may be $h*t.
>
> An old man or old lady owned Camry or Crown Vic would be my first choice.
>
> I would NOT put him in a W210. Too many potential issues for an
> unmaintained car.
>
> You asked.
>
> Rick
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Corolla or a Camry. Any year Camry with the four banger. 2003 or newer Corolla. 
A '96 or '97 Corolla would be fine. The 1999-2002 Corolla have oil ring issues, 
and if the oil level is not checked often, the engine is toast. Honda 
automatics suck.  Domestic cars, Ford Crown Vic and Mercury Marquis are 
reliable.They had issues with the intake coolant leak on certain years. A GM 
with the 3800 is a good choice also, but the rest of the car may be $h*t.

An old man or old lady owned Camry or Crown Vic would be my first choice.  

I would NOT put him in a W210. Too many potential issues for an unmaintained 
car. 

You asked. 

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I bet he'd love that slammed and stacked 300D! Only $1700, use the remaining $ 
to get some 22s yo!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 1, 2020 2:58:49 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> You all recall the incident of my father/wife trying to buy a different car 
> for the kid. The 87 Buick Century with the 2.5 4 iron duke is not good 
> enough. What sort of car is somewhat reliable for a 24 year old kid? I’m 
> thinking some sort of Buick from the early 00s with that v6. I think I have 
> heard those are reliable. I would say some sort of Toyota or Honda but those 
> usually have tons of miles and are beat up in the price range. Somehow it 
> started as looking for a $1k car and now has turned into a $2k car. Seems a 
> decent w210 could be had for that price. I’m not really interested in working 
> on it at all but would know how to work on some sort of MB if it came down to 
> it.
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