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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig
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Hmm -- OK is OK! On 10/31/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just the description of the state matches it's name, not many states can claim that! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Mizzurah At 08:17 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote: On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Missouri Chris --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Or for the non-locals, that would be ... ? Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 going in, and 2.79 at the same station on the way out! Gas was about 2.20 ther, but was 2.08 in Ames on Friday. I drove the can this week, and left the SDL sit (sniff) At least things are finally going in the right direction. We still have a buck a gallon to go to get to sanity street.
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Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Chris --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 going in, and 2.79 at the same station on the way out! Gas was about 2.20 ther, but was 2.08 in Ames on Friday. I drove the can this week, and left the SDL sit (sniff) At least things are finally going in the right direction. We still have a buck a gallon to go to get to sanity street. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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he pronounced it correctly, Mizery. :) -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Chris --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
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I expect that from someone from ar-can-zes! :-) Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he pronounced it correctly, Mizery. :) -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Chris --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
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just the description of the state matches it's name, not many states can claim that! -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 10:55 AM To: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness I expect that from someone from ar-can-zes! :-) Chris Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
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My Jetta is a 2000 model TDI. Inside the filler neck is a button (on the left side as you look in the filler hole) that gets pushed down by the fuel cap when it is put on. The vent is there for fuel expansion. Any way if you press this button while fueling you can put another 1.5 gallons of fuel in +/-. The shoe horn is a figure of speech. I normally fill my Jetta using the vent trick to the point where I have clear fuel all the way to the top of the filler neck. I never have had a problem with fuel expansion. My range on a highway only trip at 70 to 75 mph is about 800 miles. Mike Piles -Original Message- From: Gabriel S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness thats alot of fuel for a that car. Whats your range, from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli? Whats the vent trick and shoe horn what? On 10/25/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jetta holds about 16 gallons if you use the vent trick and a shoe horn. Mike Piles -Original Message- From: Gabriel S. [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness how many gallons does your jetta hold? On 10/22/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just filled the tank on my Jetta $3.299 for a total of $50.78 OUCH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:15 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Gasoline is 2.19 Diesel is now 3.49 I thought it was bad at 80 cents backward spread! This is even wackier. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
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how many gallons does your jetta hold? On 10/22/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just filled the tank on my Jetta $3.299 for a total of $50.78 OUCH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:15 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Gasoline is 2.19 Diesel is now 3.49 I thought it was bad at 80 cents backward spread! This is even wackier. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
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Theres a big difference between driving a beat up old truck and giving that same truck a paint job, 7 lift, 40 tires and running straight pipes... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:50:34 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt Raymond wrote: I'm sick and tired of hearing about how this effects the poor. I see more and more idiots that sling burgers at McDonalds driving big pickups with big mudder tires. When I was a kid, we had very little money. We mostly rode around in pickup trucks and Suburbans. Know why? When you live in the rural Midwest and don't have a lot of money, you drive what's available for cheap on the used market and is inexpensive to maintain. Pickup trucks and Suburbans are ubiquitous (because farmers buy them), they take a lot of abuse, and they're cheap and easy to fix. (I recall one Suburban my parents bought for $1000, drove for two years, and sold for $500, having put in almost no money in repairs. That's cheap transportation.) The corner mechanic, the cheap but honest one who's been in business for 40 years, won't want to touch a Honda or Toyota. Real poor people don't have cars and live in a small apartment in the city near where they work so they can WALK. Sorry, the apartments in the city have all been taken by rich people, these days. And they don't want to lease to anyone with kids, anyhow. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 13:28:08 2005 Received: from 24.svnf1.xdsl.nauticom.net ([209.195.153.153] helo=odie.pinebluff.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1EU2My-0005S0-C9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:28:08 + Received: from odie.pinebluff.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odie.pinebluff.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j9ODS1NZ012050 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:28:01 -0400 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by odie.pinebluff.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id j9ODS1KO012048; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:28:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: odie.pinebluff.net: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from 12.27.179.239 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kslater); by www.pinebluff.dyndns.org with HTTP; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:28:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on odie.pinebluff.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 300TD header to cat exhaust pipe? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:28:09 - I found a problem with my exhaust system on my 87 300TD (wagon). The 'downpipe' that provides the path from the header to the front muffler / catalytic converter has a leak in the braided portion. What is the purpose of this section of this pipe? Rusty or Hursty if you're reading this: What is the cost of this pipe? I only see it on the 300D section and it has a not currently available status with a link to get a quote. ...Kevin 87 300TD 277k mi
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Gasoline is 2.19 Diesel is now 3.49 I thought it was bad at 80 cents backward spread! This is even wackier.
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I just filled the tank on my Jetta $3.299 for a total of $50.78 OUCH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:15 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Gasoline is 2.19 Diesel is now 3.49 I thought it was bad at 80 cents backward spread! This is even wackier. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Gabriel S. wrote: Thats very morbid thought redghost...but yes, we do need to reset the overflowing human population. Is that like cleansing the gene pool. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:23:36 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Thats very morbid thought redghost...but yes, we do need to reset the overflowing human population. Is that like cleansing the gene pool. Actually, no, we do not need to reset the overflowing human population. It will peak out nicely by itself around mid-century and then fall. It's already noticably happening in places like Italy and Germany, where they have to rely on immigrants to make up for the drop in their native populations. And as far as the eugenics idea of cleansing the gene pool, the death toll from a pandemic isn't selective, so the effect can't be compared. Craig
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I think it is more flushing the gene pool. We may be working our way to a tipping point with dilution of the genes available for survival. The stupid and short sighted are allowed to breed and build, tsunami, earthquake, hurricane, fire, flood, pestilence and plague then are visited on this weakened stock. Flush the garbage out, but we really should try to put the waste to good use as fuel, instead of letting it rot and fester upon the earth, or despoil the seas. On Friday, October 21, 2005, at 05:23 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Thats very morbid thought redghost...but yes, we do need to reset the overflowing human population. Is that like cleansing the gene pool. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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It does introduce a hardiness against more bird flu though On Friday, October 21, 2005, at 06:49 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:23:36 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Thats very morbid thought redghost...but yes, we do need to reset the overflowing human population. Is that like cleansing the gene pool. Actually, no, we do not need to reset the overflowing human population. It will peak out nicely by itself around mid-century and then fall. It's already noticably happening in places like Italy and Germany, where they have to rely on immigrants to make up for the drop in their native populations. And as far as the eugenics idea of cleansing the gene pool, the death toll from a pandemic isn't selective, so the effect can't be compared. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:47:24 -0700 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does introduce a hardiness against more bird flu though Yes, that is true. Craig
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Hans Neureiter wrote: Same difference. Joe Public was promised 'we make sure you have gasoline since the oil rigs are shut down and damaged'. Well, no, it's not the same difference. I actually wondered how a release of crude oil from the SPR was supposed to lower prices, considering the main problem is a lack of REFINERY capacity. I've heard claims that we're looking at a critical shortage of diesel refining capacity, in the future. It seems that gasoline has traditionally been more profitable, so refiners have focused on equipment for refining it, and haven't invested much in the equipment for making diesel fuel.
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Curt Raymond wrote: I'm sick and tired of hearing about how this effects the poor. I see more and more idiots that sling burgers at McDonalds driving big pickups with big mudder tires. When I was a kid, we had very little money. We mostly rode around in pickup trucks and Suburbans. Know why? When you live in the rural Midwest and don't have a lot of money, you drive what's available for cheap on the used market and is inexpensive to maintain. Pickup trucks and Suburbans are ubiquitous (because farmers buy them), they take a lot of abuse, and they're cheap and easy to fix. (I recall one Suburban my parents bought for $1000, drove for two years, and sold for $500, having put in almost no money in repairs. That's cheap transportation.) The corner mechanic, the cheap but honest one who's been in business for 40 years, won't want to touch a Honda or Toyota. Real poor people don't have cars and live in a small apartment in the city near where they work so they can WALK. Sorry, the apartments in the city have all been taken by rich people, these days. And they don't want to lease to anyone with kids, anyhow.
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NW D.C. Chevron Station was $2.99 last Saturday. YAY! On 10/20/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:14:32PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. For the trip to PHX and back, here's what diesel prices looked like: Fri, gilroy, rotten robbie: $3.17 Sun, Frazier Park (aka the top of the grapevine), flying j: $3.13 Mon, phoenix area off Elliot and I-10, Circle K: $2.99 Tue, Payson AZ, Safeway: $3.02 (with club card) Tue, Kingman, AZ, truck stop with a mobil: $3.14 Weds, lost hills, pilot: $3.18 bakersfield was about $3.15 a gallon along SR 58 and SR 99. Kramer Jct was $3.21 at the truck stop, next door at the two gas stations $3.39. I think all there is to say about diesel prices is that there is no rhyme or reason to the price on the pump right now. K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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OK, lets cool it a little bit Russ Maki wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Pish posh, if people spent as much on fuel as they did on Evian (naive spelled backwards) water then it'd be approaching the point where the economy is in trouble. Hey Curt, do the math. Say someone is flipping burgers for $8 an hour. That's 16 grand a year for someone working full-time at Burger King or Wal-Mart. (Of course, these places NEVER hire more than a few full time employees -- it's cheaper to hire two part-timers with no bennies.) So let's say the individual is a single mother with a kid or two at home to feed and clothe. Her ex is a deadbeat, maybe $10K behind in child support. Her life is a mess -- not that that's your fault, or mine. But she's out there. She and many others like her do exist. So said individual's heating bill goes up $500 over the six-month heating season. An Oct.12 Marketwatch story puts the average at $350, but let's say the burger flipper/Wal-mart clerk lives in Milwaukee, where heating costs tend to be above average. (Up here the poor drive clapped-out Buicks, BTW). You don't think that individual is going to feel the pinch?? Or would you just rather not hear about it. People debate about the presence of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. I'd get a kick out of seeing the Sermon on the Mount posted far and wide in this Christian nation. The people would tear it down, mistaking it for the Communist Manifesto. That Jesus. He was such a Goddamn liberal. Russ Maki ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:46:07 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who's apartment is heated on the landlord's dime?? No, who's heating bill is included in the rent! Expanding the contractions: who is apartment is heated on the landlord's dime?? No, who is heating bill is included in the rent! Makes no sense. Maybe you mean whose? Craig
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Bird flu last time it took out 50 million This go around there are more people out there, so greater culling. When it hits, we will not have such a hard time with fuel prices, since there will be fewer people needing to use it. Render the dead to make BioDiesel. On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Russ, I wrote a big rant but decided I'd spare the list my semi-moral waffling. I'm all for people having kids that can afford it but I could stand to have fewer of the room temperature intellect burger flippers squirting 'em out. I read an interesting position paper some time ago that stated that the manufacturing jobs of years gone by actually put us in this position, Johnny can't read but he can work in the factory just like his old man. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:34:02 -0500 From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Pish posh, if people spent as much on fuel as they did on Evian (naive spelled backwards) water then it'd be approaching the point where the economy is in trouble. Hey Curt, do the math. Say someone is flipping burgers for $8 an hour. That's 16 grand a year for someone working full-time at Burger King or Wal-Mart. (Of course, these places NEVER hire more than a few full time employees -- it's cheaper to hire two part-timers with no bennies.) So let's say the individual is a single mother with a kid or two at home to feed and clothe. Her ex is a deadbeat, maybe $10K behind in child support. Her life is a mess -- not that that's your fault, or mine. But she's out there. She and many others like her do exist. So said individual's heating bill goes up $500 over the six-month heating season. An Oct.12 Marketwatch story puts the average at $350, but let's say the burger flipper/Wal-mart clerk lives in Milwaukee, where heating costs tend to be above average. (Up here the poor drive clapped-out Buicks, BTW). You don't think that individual is going to feel the pinch?? Or would you just rather not hear about it. People debate about the presence of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. I'd get a kick out of seeing the Sermon on the Mount posted far and wide in this Christian nation. The people would tear it down, mistaking it for the Communist Manifesto. That Jesus. He was such a Goddamn liberal. Russ Maki - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:14:32PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. For the trip to PHX and back, here's what diesel prices looked like: Fri, gilroy, rotten robbie: $3.17 Sun, Frazier Park (aka the top of the grapevine), flying j: $3.13 Mon, phoenix area off Elliot and I-10, Circle K: $2.99 Tue, Payson AZ, Safeway: $3.02 (with club card) Tue, Kingman, AZ, truck stop with a mobil: $3.14 Weds, lost hills, pilot: $3.18 bakersfield was about $3.15 a gallon along SR 58 and SR 99. Kramer Jct was $3.21 at the truck stop, next door at the two gas stations $3.39. I think all there is to say about diesel prices is that there is no rhyme or reason to the price on the pump right now. K
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Its INSANE. Diesel went up to 3.25 today, gas is 2.25. Its not too far off from shutting the whole damn economy down. Loren Faeth wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. dave walton wrote: Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. The heating contractor in my family no longer sells oil burners, but they still service the ones they installed and those owned by friends and family. IMO, oil heat doesn't have to be less efficient than propane or gas, and propane usually costs more per btu than oil. (and gas is going up a lot this year) I believe propane is in the $1.60-1.80 per gallon range now, and the heat content is something like 55-60 percent of oil IIRC.
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. Well, if you live in town, natural gas is an obvious and popular choice -- though its price has been increasing even more rapidly than heating oil's, lately. (The major supplier is Alberta, but their wells are mostly tapped out. It's still often flared off in the middle east, but it's difficult stuff to ship.) If you don't live in an area served by gas mains, which is true of most rural areas, you're pretty much limited to either heating oil or propane. Neither is particularly cheap. Propane burns cleaner, but you have to have an ugly pig tank in your yard, while a heating oil tank can be hidden in the basement.
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You are lucky -- $3.26 in rural Iowa, in the middle of harvest season! On 10/18/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Kaleb said Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now Nope, tradition un hampered by progress...In PA There is always coal at $80 a ton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. dave walton wrote: Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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I just saw $3.50 a gal here in Arkansas this evening. I paid $3.30 this morning. --Robert LT Don wrote: You are lucky -- $3.26 in rural Iowa, in the middle of harvest season! On 10/18/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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I had a visit Tuesday from the fuel oil man -- I took the minimum delivery of 150 gallons in hope that this price spike will ease in a month or so. The bill was $430, @$2.80 per gallon. I can go through 200 gallons per month to keep the house warm in January and February. People on a shoestring are going to be hurting up here this winter. Russ Maki Ixonia, Wis. OK Don wrote: I saw unleaded at $2.17 and Desel at $3.20 coming home from work tonight. I managed to find a station at $3.08, and felt lucky??? On 10/18/05, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw $3.50 a gal here in Arkansas this evening. I paid $3.30 this morning. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm
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I wonder if the goverments emergency release of gasoline from their stockpile has something to do with curbing the gasoline prices, but excluding diesel. Supply and demand, not production costs are still the main factors in consumer cost. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Hans Neureiter wrote: I wonder if the goverments emergency release of gasoline from their stockpile has something to do with curbing the gasoline prices, but excluding diesel. All I remember seeing is crude from the strategic petroleum reserve loaned to the oil companies after Katrina.
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Same difference. Joe Public was promised 'we make sure you have gasoline since the oil rigs are shut down and damaged'. On 10/19/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I wonder if the goverments emergency release of gasoline from their stockpile has something to do with curbing the gasoline prices, but excluding diesel. All I remember seeing is crude from the strategic petroleum reserve loaned to the oil companies after Katrina. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Pish posh, if people spent as much on fuel as they did on Evian (naive spelled backwards) water then it'd be approaching the point where the economy is in trouble. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how this effects the poor. I see more and more idiots that sling burgers at McDonalds driving big pickups with big mudder tires. I also see plenty of people commute the 50 miles from where I live into Boston all alone in a Suburban. Real poor people don't have cars and live in a small apartment in the city near where they work so they can WALK. Geez, how'd I get on that rant? Anyway I fueled up Monday (hadta, the tank was about dry) for $2.95 which is down $0.10 from 2 weeks ago. Today its $2.89. Gas is $2.69, but thats TOTALLY NORMAL for this time of year. Home heating fuel and diesel are the same stuff, its supply and demand. My parent's filled up their home tank for $1.90/gal, but they locked in last fall. I was tempted to tap off some -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:13:29 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Its INSANE. Diesel went up to 3.25 today, gas is 2.25. Its not too far off from shutting the whole damn economy down. - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 19 13:57:58 2005 Received: from mail.losalamos.com ([65.19.58.5]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESES5-0001xY-UH for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:57:58 + Received: from mccluskey ([65.19.22.155]) by mail.losalamos.com (Virtual Los Alamos Mail Server v6) with SMTP id KIA74316 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:56:16 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:57:51 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D Glow Plug Conversion X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:57:58 - On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:35:18 -0400 Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a 1977 300D, want to convert from filament type plugs to pencil type plugs. Understand that I will need a pencil type plug by Bosch that has the same thread size as my existing type filement type Bosch plugs. Yup. Question: does anyone have the exact Bosch part number for these types of plugs. Call Rusty, (800) 741-5252 Understand to change from series electrically need to disconnect the braided ground wire. Will use 10 guage wire connectors between pencil plugs. No timer change out is required. Is this the jist of this? Yup. Craig
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They're lucky they had that option. We used to have a fixed rate plan like that for the last 4-5 years. But this year they said the market was too tempermental and they weren't doing it any more. Levi On 10/19/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway I fueled up Monday (hadta, the tank was about dry) for $2.95 which is down $0.10 from 2 weeks ago. Today its $2.89. Gas is $2.69, but thats TOTALLY NORMAL for this time of year. Home heating fuel and diesel are the same stuff, its supply and demand. My parent's filled up their home tank for $1.90/gal, but they locked in last fall. I was tempted to tap off some -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi
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who's apartment is heated on the landlord's dime?? No, who's heating bill is included in the rent! Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Quoting Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: More efficient ways? Like just having it not cold here? The ads for natural gas/propane and oil heat companies fight over which is more efficient. At this point I'm thinking propane is slightly ahead as the best choice, the cost of natural gas is up something like 200%. -Curt who's apartment is heated on the landlord's dime. Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:15:24 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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You can convert oil burning furnaces to run on WVO... Chris --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. dave walton wrote: Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
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It would be cheaper for me to run the 560 that the SDL. That is SAD. OK Don wrote: I saw unleaded at $2.17 and Desel at $3.20 coming home from work tonight. I managed to find a station at $3.08, and felt lucky??? On 10/18/05, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw $3.50 a gal here in Arkansas this evening. I paid $3.30 this morning. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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They also could have bought a futures contract and then saw a way to make more dimes and sell at the current price. Just playing a lil devil's advocate here. Luther -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 19, 2005 10:12 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Levi Smith wrote: They're lucky they had that option. We used to have a fixed rate plan like that for the last 4-5 years. But this year they said the market was too tempermental and they weren't doing it any more. They aren't big enough to buy futures contracts? (42,000 gallons a pop) I just assumed all the dealers who forward sold to their customers in August bought futures to cover the risk. Maybe it was too volatile to give the customers a set price for the duration of the enrollment period? (If you tell your customers they can enroll in the month of August for $1.90, you don't want to buy futures at the end of August for $2.10) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
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the apartment my sister recently moved out of in Western PA was heated by coal. Chris --- Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb said Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now Nope, tradition un hampered by progress...In PA There is always coal at $80 a ton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. dave walton wrote: Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Not sure how big they are, it's Agway/Suburban here in Upstate NY. It basically sounded like they *could* have offered it, but they would have had to set our buy in cost at too high a price to allow them to be sure to not lose money... Levi On 10/19/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They also could have bought a futures contract and then saw a way to make more dimes and sell at the current price. Just playing a lil devil's advocate here. Luther
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Well yes, but in the 6 years I've lived there I've had one rent increase, that was last year and it went up $15... He can't be making any money on me. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 who's apartment is heated on the landlord's dime?? No, who's heating bill is included in the rent! Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 19 15:55:33 2005 Received: from relay02.pair.com ([209.68.5.16]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESGHq-0007mp-91 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:55:31 + Received: (qmail 14404 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2005 15:55:27 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 19 Oct 2005 15:55:27 - X-pair-Authenticated: 24.108.6.52 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:55:24 -0700 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] GULLWING X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:55:53 - Here on the island is a fellow who is the oh what number 6th? restorer of gullwings in the world, that is all he does. I'm sure he told me that average pricing is roughly $250k, burned out bodies I seen at his shop fetch more than 58K So I have to wonder... http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/105133770.html $58 large... John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 150k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
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Yes, cost of production has nothing to do with price, unfortunately. Silver cost about $12/oz to produce and sells for $7.50/oz...and that is relatively high over the last 20 years...goes both ways. But as with any commodity, there is always manipulation...but that's hard to discern. Chris --- Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the goverments emergency release of gasoline from their stockpile has something to do with curbing the gasoline prices, but excluding diesel. Supply and demand, not production costs are still the main factors in consumer cost. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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We're importing gasoline right now too and it may be a move to satisfy/reassure consumers about fuel prices...diesel passenger vehicles are an ignorable minority here and truckers just pass the costs along... Chris --- Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same difference. Joe Public was promised 'we make sure you have gasoline since the oil rigs are shut down and damaged'. On 10/19/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I wonder if the goverments emergency release of gasoline from their stockpile has something to do with curbing the gasoline prices, but excluding diesel. All I remember seeing is crude from the strategic petroleum reserve loaned to the oil companies after Katrina. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, snow blower, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: Pish posh, if people spent as much on fuel as they did on Evian (naive spelled backwards) water then it'd be approaching the point where the economy is in trouble. Hey Curt, do the math. Say someone is flipping burgers for $8 an hour. That's 16 grand a year for someone working full-time at Burger King or Wal-Mart. (Of course, these places NEVER hire more than a few full time employees -- it's cheaper to hire two part-timers with no bennies.) So let's say the individual is a single mother with a kid or two at home to feed and clothe. Her ex is a deadbeat, maybe $10K behind in child support. Her life is a mess -- not that that's your fault, or mine. But she's out there. She and many others like her do exist. So said individual's heating bill goes up $500 over the six-month heating season. An Oct.12 Marketwatch story puts the average at $350, but let's say the burger flipper/Wal-mart clerk lives in Milwaukee, where heating costs tend to be above average. (Up here the poor drive clapped-out Buicks, BTW). You don't think that individual is going to feel the pinch?? Or would you just rather not hear about it. People debate about the presence of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. I'd get a kick out of seeing the Sermon on the Mount posted far and wide in this Christian nation. The people would tear it down, mistaking it for the Communist Manifesto. That Jesus. He was such a Goddamn liberal. Russ Maki
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i live in a cold northern climate and i have a bigass home i use a wood stove insert and i got to tellya it really helps usually the living room is too hot and i have to use a fan to blow air around it keeps the place at maybe 78 or so when out side temps are 45-50 ,when it gets really cold it can keep this barn i live in at 65 to 68 it keeps the house heater off most of the time wood is dropped off by local tree guys and a couple of times a year we get tougher and have splitting partys... i usually cook the bbq of course! it really helps! collins 1985 500 sec
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Yes, but I've also heard that gas is being import for cheap from europe because of the growth of diesel over there has resulted in an oversupply of gas which is then shipped to the USA. ps, in Canada where diesel is still cheaper than gas, or at least the last time I looked, mind filling up the S class at $4.13 usa per usa gallon does hurt a bit. On 19-Oct-05, at 9:33 AM, Christopher McCann wrote: We're importing gasoline right now too and it may be a move to satisfy/reassure consumers about fuel prices...diesel passenger vehicles are an ignorable minority here and truckers just pass the costs along... Chris John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 149k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
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Hey Russ, I wrote a big rant but decided I'd spare the list my semi-moral waffling. I'm all for people having kids that can afford it but I could stand to have fewer of the room temperature intellect burger flippers squirting 'em out. I read an interesting position paper some time ago that stated that the manufacturing jobs of years gone by actually put us in this position, Johnny can't read but he can work in the factory just like his old man. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:34:02 -0500 From: Russ Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Pish posh, if people spent as much on fuel as they did on Evian (naive spelled backwards) water then it'd be approaching the point where the economy is in trouble. Hey Curt, do the math. Say someone is flipping burgers for $8 an hour. That's 16 grand a year for someone working full-time at Burger King or Wal-Mart. (Of course, these places NEVER hire more than a few full time employees -- it's cheaper to hire two part-timers with no bennies.) So let's say the individual is a single mother with a kid or two at home to feed and clothe. Her ex is a deadbeat, maybe $10K behind in child support. Her life is a mess -- not that that's your fault, or mine. But she's out there. She and many others like her do exist. So said individual's heating bill goes up $500 over the six-month heating season. An Oct.12 Marketwatch story puts the average at $350, but let's say the burger flipper/Wal-mart clerk lives in Milwaukee, where heating costs tend to be above average. (Up here the poor drive clapped-out Buicks, BTW). You don't think that individual is going to feel the pinch?? Or would you just rather not hear about it. People debate about the presence of the Ten Commandments in public buildings. I'd get a kick out of seeing the Sermon on the Mount posted far and wide in this Christian nation. The people would tear it down, mistaking it for the Communist Manifesto. That Jesus. He was such a Goddamn liberal. Russ Maki - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 19 17:59:41 2005 Received: from tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.93]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ESIE0-0005wG-IY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:59:40 + Received: from [64.230.120.105] by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:59:38 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:59:34 -0400 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chinese 4x4 gets zero in safety test X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:59:41 - ROTFLMAO! The Yugo rides again! Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1783784,00.html =20 The first Chinese car to be sold in Europe has scored zero =8B the worst-ever score =8B in safety tests.more =20
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Curt Raymond wrote: I wrote a big rant but decided I'd spare the list my semi-moral waffling. I'm all for people having kids that can afford it but I could stand to have fewer of the room temperature intellect burger flippers squirting 'em out. The working poor are a huge step up from the professional breeders. (you know, the ones who see an increase in their gov't transfer payments when they pop out another lifeform)
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An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
