Re: [MBZ] My new car

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, need two of those - one to crap on, the other to cover it.  ;<)

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Thanks, Dan!  I am happy about it.  

I am going to sell my current 7 series.   I have a feeling it might take a 
while.  Not that many folks are interested in a 15 year old BMW with 217,000 
miles.  

As far as pictures, sure I can send some.   They are the pictures from the 
seller's listing.  I'm hoping when it gets here that I will have a weekend to 
do some Martha Stewart detailing.  



Don Snook 


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Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search

Congrats, Donald, glad you found something you like.  Sounds like a nice 
example. So what are you doing with your existing 740?

As I opined earlier today, I think part of my problem is my past luck in 
finding nice, well kept examples cheap.  As I expand my search I'm finding that 
the decent ones are north of $5,000, more than I had been previously 
considering.  Looks like it's time to open the wallet and accept that the ones 
I have were anomalies due to luck or circumstance.

There are two what appear to be nice prospects I'll be looking at this weekend. 
Maybe I'll get lucky as well. If not, I'm sure the right car will eventually 
come my way.

Pictures?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook d...@snooklawllc.com wrote:
 
 Dan wrote:   I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is 
 out the window.  I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and 
 Charleston.  If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch.  Sadly, the initial 
 searches yielded pretty much nothing.  I'm still at a loss to figure out why 
 W140s are so hard to find... 
 
 I feel your pain!  I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just 
 like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold!   Yesterday 
 I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for 
 8 years and the second for 6 years.  The seller has only put on 25,000 in the 
 last 6 years.  During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at 
 the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING.  Poor guy.  
 
 Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an 
 enclosed trailer.   I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to 
 my previous cars).  My current BMW has 217,000 miles.   
 
 Don Snook 
 2000 BMW 740iL  217K 
 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) 
 2001 BMW 740iL  (in transit) 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why a BMW?  Mechanics say they break, unlike MErcedes.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Dan wrote:   I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55
 is out the window.  I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and
 Charleston.  If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch.  Sadly, the initial
 searches yielded pretty much nothing.  I'm still at a loss to figure out
 why W140s are so hard to find...

 I feel your pain!  I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class
 (just like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold!
  Yesterday I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The
 first had it for 8 years and the second for 6 years.  The seller has only
 put on 25,000 in the last 6 years.  During that time he also had the
 100,000 mile service done at the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING.  Poor
 guy.

 Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an
 enclosed trailer.   I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to
 my previous cars).  My current BMW has 217,000 miles.

 Don Snook
 2000 BMW 740iL  217K
 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car)
 2001 BMW 740iL  (in transit)






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Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I would have bought a 140 (97-99). But, like Dan they are very hard to find. 
When I did find one they were either turds or they wanted WAY too much for 
them.  Plus, I have really enjoyed my current 7 series.  I think the 98-2001 
Bmw is the best one they made. They fit me well and look good.





On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.commailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Why a BMW?  Mechanics say they break, unlike MErcedes.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Dan wrote:   I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is 
out the window.  I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and 
Charleston.  If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch.  Sadly, the initial 
searches yielded pretty much nothing.  I'm still at a loss to figure out why 
W140s are so hard to find...

I feel your pain!  I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just 
like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold!   Yesterday I 
bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for 8 
years and the second for 6 years.  The seller has only put on 25,000 in the 
last 6 years.  During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at 
the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING.  Poor guy.

Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an enclosed 
trailer.   I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to my previous 
cars).  My current BMW has 217,000 miles.

Don Snook
2000 BMW 740iL  217K
2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car)
2001 BMW 740iL  (in transit)






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Re: [MBZ] My new car! was RE: Car Search

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Congrats, Donald, glad you found something you like.  Sounds like a nice 
example. So what are you doing with your existing 740?

As I opined earlier today, I think part of my problem is my past luck in 
finding nice, well kept examples cheap.  As I expand my search I'm finding that 
the decent ones are north of $5,000, more than I had been previously 
considering.  Looks like it's time to open the wallet and accept that the ones 
I have were anomalies due to luck or circumstance.

There are two what appear to be nice prospects I'll be looking at this weekend. 
Maybe I'll get lucky as well. If not, I'm sure the right car will eventually 
come my way.

Pictures?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 19, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Donald Snook d...@snooklawllc.com wrote:
 
 Dan wrote:   I've pretty much decided it's a W140 or nothing, so the E55 is 
 out the window.  I've put searches in for W140s in Tulsa, OK City and 
 Charleston.  If I see anything pop up I'll be in touch.  Sadly, the initial 
 searches yielded pretty much nothing.  I'm still at a loss to figure out why 
 W140s are so hard to find... 
 
 I feel your pain!  I have been on the search for either a 97-99 S Class (just 
 like you) or another 7 series BMW.I did finally strike gold!   Yesterday 
 I bought a 2001 BMW 740iL with 115,000 miles -- 2 owner. The first had it for 
 8 years and the second for 6 years.  The seller has only put on 25,000 in the 
 last 6 years.  During that time he also had the 100,000 mile service done at 
 the BMW dealer and they did EVERYTHING.  Poor guy.  
 
 Anyway, I am having to have it shipped from Nashville to Wichita in an 
 enclosed trailer.   I am excited because it has such low miles (compared to 
 my previous cars).  My current BMW has 217,000 miles.   
 
 Don Snook 
 2000 BMW 740iL  217K 
 2006 Cadillac SRX (Her car) 
 2001 BMW 740iL  (in transit) 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[astrasfogel]

Anal-ness is a great quality in a PO!
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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:36:24 
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Peter wrote: I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 convenience 
relay box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them 
up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol 
charge at the dealer to reprogram them.  Funky engine control problems will 
drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank 
position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell 
housing), etc.  I hope it's a long time before you have trouble!
These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- 
most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty.

WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence.  I just replaced my battery at my 
indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge.  
I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing 
the battery.  Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken 
about the cost of these repairs.  The reliability went up fairly dramatically 
after the 97 model year.

By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car.  He knew the car.  
He knows the previous owner.  The guy took exceptional care of the car.  
Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at 
every oil change.  All work from new was done at the dealer.   Including the 
Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service 
that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs.  At this 
inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did 
the following:

Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering 
fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, 
inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things.   So, Im pretty happy with 
the car.  The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Donald Snook]

Allan wrote:  You have some kind of luck.  I am amazed how you stumble into 
these
cars.

Its better to be lucky than good.  Actually, I usually spend quite a bit of 
time trying to find the right car.  I had searched for 7 series BMW's for quite 
a while.  I also looked at 5-6 of them.  I communicated with 4 sellers of them 
on ebay before settling on this one.   I'm not claiming that I knew the service 
history of this car before I bought it.  BUT, I operate under the assumption 
that if a luxury car is in very good cosmetic shape then the owner has been 
equally diligent about mechanical condition.  I probably miss out on some 
really great cars in terms of their mechanical condition because some people 
just don't care about cosmetic issues.  AND I might get burned one day by a car 
that is excellent cosmetic shape and has been neglected on maintenance.  BUT, I 
think with cars that originally cost a lot of money, the owners who take care 
of the cosmetic issues also take care of the maintenance.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Donald Snook]

Tom wrote: Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is as unreliable as my 140 has
been.  Which is to say, if it is as reliable as my old 123 was.
A good 140 is at least as reliable as a good 300D from a starts every
time and never fails to proceed daily driver standpoint and is
infinitely better from an I don't have to fix the door locks with a
golf tee and the climate control system simply WORKS without ever having
to even change the temperature setting with the seasons component
reliability standpoint. 206,000 miles, original evaporator, original sealed 
transmission,
original ball joints(!) have zero play.  All cars should be so good.

This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is.  I had 
bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit.  I'm glad to hear its not 
always true.  I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:


This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is.  I had 
bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit.  I'm glad to hear its not 
always true.  I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's.


I think there's still good reason to stay away from the V12s in both.
Otherwise I wouldn't have seen a 750iL advertised locally for $2000 in 1996.
I'm sooo glad I didn't buy it.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Dan Penoff]

I think there is plenty of anecdotal information as well as direct examples of 
the issues with the V12 models.

It can also be explained by the limited number of them that are out there.

If they had any semblance of reliability you would see a lot more of them 
around, and the values would be significantly higher

Dan

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On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Donald Snook wrote:
 
 This is the perfect example of the myths about how bad the 140 is.  I had 
 bought into the idea that the 140 was a money pit.  I'm glad to hear its not 
 always true.  I think the same can be said about the 7 series BMW's.
 
 I think there's still good reason to stay away from the V12s in both.
 Otherwise I wouldn't have seen a 750iL advertised locally for $2000 in 1996.
 I'm sooo glad I didn't buy it.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Donald Snook]

Kevin wrote: My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it!  He's poured 
money into
it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild.  He
had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again.  He says I should
give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer.

I wouldn't advise you to give up Mercedes addiction.  Mercedes are great cars - 
if you know what to buy and if they have been taken care of.  I am learning 
that BMW's can also be great cars  if you know what to buy and IF they have 
been taken care of.

The previous owner of my car responded to an email I sent to him.  He is a good 
advertisement for BMW 7 series.  He has been driving them for 23 years.  He had 
a 1989 7 series, then my car, and he just bought a new BWM 7 Series Active 
Hybrid.  I didn't know what that was. So, I looked it up.  It's a 7 series 
Hybrid with a turbo V8 putting out 455 horsepower and getting 27 mpg.  Looks 
like an amazing car.  But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till he trades 
it in.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[andrew strasfogel]

My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel.  Accelerates from 0 to 60 in
about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Kevin wrote: My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it!  He's
 poured money into
 it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild.  He
 had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again.  He says I should
 give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer.

 I wouldn't advise you to give up Mercedes addiction.  Mercedes are great
 cars - if you know what to buy and if they have been taken care of.  I am
 learning that BMW's can also be great cars  if you know what to buy and IF
 they have been taken care of.

 The previous owner of my car responded to an email I sent to him.  He is a
 good advertisement for BMW 7 series.  He has been driving them for 23 years.
  He had a 1989 7 series, then my car, and he just bought a new BWM 7 Series
 Active Hybrid.  I didn't know what that was. So, I looked it up.  It's a 7
 series Hybrid with a turbo V8 putting out 455 horsepower and getting 27 mpg.
  Looks like an amazing car.  But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till
 he trades it in.

 Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Allan Streib]

andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

 My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel.  Accelerates from 0 to 60 in
 about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg.

Here?  I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[andrew strasfogel]

Oh yeah they are, but only sedans.  Competes with the Mercedes E class
Bluetec.  I was told the exhaust is clear and smells faintly of urea, which
is used to clean the gases.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

  My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel.  Accelerates from 0 to 60 in
  about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg.

 Here?  I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

 My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel.  Accelerates from 0 to 60 in
 about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg.

 Here?  I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US.


http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Uniquely/BMWEfficientDynamics/ExploreAdvancedDiesel.aspx

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Rick Knoble]

 Looks like an amazing car.  But, its over $100K, so I think I'll wait till he 
 trades it in.
 
 Donald H. Snook

Oh come on now. You're a partner now. Nice new (to you) big house, you even 
have a new tax deduction! Stimulate the economy and live a little. Park a new 
hybrid Beemer in the driveway and be the envy of all your neighbors. 
Rick
With tongue planted firmly in cheek. :^)
BTW congratulations on ALL of the aforementioned items, especially the son. 
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Curt Raymond]

There've been lots of ads...

I think you'll find its a 335d

-Curt

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:40:05 -0400
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andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes:

 My buddy drives a 2010 BMW 528 (?) diesel.  Accelerates from 0 to 60 in
 about 6 seconds and gets 30 - 40 mpg.

Here?  I didn't realize BMW were importing any diesels to the US.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D



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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Mountain Man]

Tom wrote:
 Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is...

Where ya been hidin' Tom.
Great to have you input here again.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:


Craig from Los Alamos also has a new car!


Is Craig keeping the W124 V-8 and the 240D I-5?
Might be time for a larger garage.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Peter Frederick]

I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 convenience relay box 
goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the 
door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at 
the dealer to reprogram them.

Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent 
no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from 
below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. 

I hope it's a long time before you have trouble!

These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- 
most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
Sent: Jul 19, 2011 8:34 AM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] My new car!

I am the proud new owner of a 2000 BMW 740iL.  This car is really amazing.  I 
have not driven an S Class of similar vintage.  But, having driven and enjoyed 
this car for a few days, I am really impressed.  I had a previous 7 series.  
But, this car is so much more refined and capable than that previous car. I 
don't know if it is just because it is 5 years newer or because of all the 
extra luxury touches or if it is just because the owner really took care of 
it.  The suspension is amazing.  The engine is amazing.  I am really enjoying 
this car.

It is black and it is going to be a pain to keep clean.  But, I sure do like 
it.

Craig from Los Alamos also has a new car!

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:


 Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent
 no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached
 from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc.


I know BMWs, like all German cars, are notorious for hatching electrical
gremlins as they age, but I'm still surprised to hear that.  Generally the
BMW aluminum V-8s have had a great reputation (once they worked out the
issue with the self-destructing Nikasil blocks early on).  Nothing like the
timing chain problems in the 3.8 liter Mercedes, or the Audi V-8 that was
made of two VW GTI 16-valve fours joined at the crank and was more
troublesome than either would have been separately.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Donald Snook]

Peter wrote: I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 convenience 
relay box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them 
up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol 
charge at the dealer to reprogram them.  Funky engine control problems will 
drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank 
position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell 
housing), etc.  I hope it's a long time before you have trouble!
These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- 
most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty.

WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence.  I just replaced my battery at my 
indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge.  
I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing 
the battery.  Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken 
about the cost of these repairs.  The reliability went up fairly dramatically 
after the 97 model year.

By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car.  He knew the car.  
He knows the previous owner.  The guy took exceptional care of the car.  
Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at 
every oil change.  All work from new was done at the dealer.   Including the 
Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service 
that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs.  At this 
inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did 
the following:

Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering 
fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, 
inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things.   So, Im pretty happy with 
the car.  The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Donald Snook]

Alex wrote: I know BMWs, like all German cars, are notorious for hatching 
electrical gremlins as they age, but I'm still surprised to hear that.  
Generally the BMW aluminum V-8s have had a great reputation (once they worked 
out the issue with the self-destructing Nikasil blocks early on).  Nothing like 
the timing chain problems in the 3.8 liter Mercedes, or the Audi V-8 that was 
made of two VW GTI 16-valve fours joined at the crank and was more troublesome 
than either would have been separately.

It kind of depends on the audience you are speaking to.  The BMW guys all tell 
horror stories about Mercedes being outrageous and expensive to repair and 
drive.  I think a lot of the stories are urban legends or are at least VERY 
rare.

Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/07/2011 4:36 PM, Donald Snook wrote:

Peter wrote: I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 convenience relay 
box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 
each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to reprogram them.  Funky 
engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank 
position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc.  I hope it's 
a long time before you have trouble!
These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most 
people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty.

WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence.  I just replaced my battery at my 
indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge.  
I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing 
the battery.  Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken 
about the cost of these repairs.  The reliability went up fairly dramatically 
after the 97 model year.

By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car.  He knew the car.  
He knows the previous owner.  The guy took exceptional care of the car.  
Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at 
every oil change.  All work from new was done at the dealer.   Including the 
Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service 
that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs.  At this 
inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did 
the following:

Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering 
fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, 
inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things.   So, Im pretty happy with 
the car.  The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done.


Donald H. Snook

Don't worry. You will be fine so long as nothing breaks.
Even if it does, you cannot be into the car for all that much. Sell it 
for scrap, walk away and call it depreciation. Wouldn't be any worse 
than on a new car of some other sort.


AND we all know you won't keep it 6 months anyway so what are the odds 
of any big items going.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Allan Streib]

Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com writes:

 By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car.  He knew
 the car.  He knows the previous owner.  The guy took exceptional care
 of the car.  Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the
 radiator cap replaced at every oil change.  All work from new was done
 at the dealer.  Including the Inspection II that was done less than
 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200
 plus anything things that it needs.  At this inspection, the
 dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the
 following:

 Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power
 steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters,
 and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things.  So,
 Im pretty happy with the car.  The previous owner was very anal and
 everything has been done.

You have some kind of luck.  I am amazed how you stumble into these
cars.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[Thomas Savage]

On 7/19/2011 9:04 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:



These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- 
most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty.


Don is in tall cotton if his new BMW is as unreliable as my 140 has 
been.  Which is to say, if it is as reliable as my old 123 was.


A good 140 is at least as reliable as a good 300D from a starts every 
time and never fails to proceed daily driver standpoint and is 
infinitely better from an I don't have to fix the door locks with a 
golf tee and the climate control system simply WORKS without ever having 
to even change the temperature setting with the seasons component 
reliability standpoint.


206,000 miles, original evaporator, original sealed transmission, 
original ball joints(!) have zero play.  All cars should be so good.


Tom


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Re: [MBZ] My new car!

[kevin kraly]

My neighbor, Tom, has this exact car and loves it!  He's poured money into 
it to make it right, even a total active/hydraulic suspension rebuild.  He 
had the water pump seize, $1500 to make it whole again.  He says I should 
give up my Mercedes addiction and get a Bimmer.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR


-Original Message- 
From: Allan Streib

Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car!

Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com writes:


By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car.  He knew
the car.  He knows the previous owner.  The guy took exceptional care
of the car.  Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the
radiator cap replaced at every oil change.  All work from new was done
at the dealer.  Including the Inspection II that was done less than
9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200
plus anything things that it needs.  At this inspection, the
dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the
following:

Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power
steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters,
and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things.  So,
Im pretty happy with the car.  The previous owner was very anal and
everything has been done.


You have some kind of luck.  I am amazed how you stumble into these
cars.

Allan

--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] my new car!

[Mitch Haley]

Peter Frederick wrote:

If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from doing 
the font end, I need to get busy!

I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, and 
steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear subframe 
moving around and the torque links clunking


Hey, Peter, is this the car that you're rebuilding into a good car after having 
a perfectly good one bent into a horseshoe?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] my new car!

[Peter Frederick]

Sure is.

Sooner or later I'll have a decent car again.  

Still, I'd rather have a smashed Benz that a smashed me -- my brother said the 
car was 200 ft from the intersection!  Of course, is was still running and I 
don't know how long it drove before I got it stopped.  I didn't black out, I 
don't think, but it took a second or two to realize I was rolling.
Peter


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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Sent: Apr 13, 2010 5:49 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] my new car!

Peter Frederick wrote:
 If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from 
 doing the font end, I need to get busy!
 
 I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, 
 and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear 
 subframe moving around and the torque links clunking

Hey, Peter, is this the car that you're rebuilding into a good car after 
having 
a perfectly good one bent into a horseshoe?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] my new car!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D.  I just picked it up from
 the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and front
 suspension over the last year.  It is like driving a new car! it is finally
 what a 124 was supposed to be.

Amen to that.  When I had my '87 300D's suspension completely rebuilt
by my indy I was utterly amazed.  The rear end , especially, is an
engineering masterpeice---I've never driven another car that keeps the
rear tires so well-planted under any conditions.

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Re: [MBZ] my new car!

[Peter Frederick]

If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement from doing 
the font end, I need to get busy!

Seriously, I only need a few more bits and I'm ready for the whole thing, once 
we get the engine back together and installed in my brother's SDL (the one that 
got a fractured oil pan and spun rod bearing).

It never ends!

I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie rods, and 
steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now hear the rear subframe 
moving around and the torque links clunking

Peter


-Original Message-
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Apr 12, 2010 9:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] my new car!

Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D.  I just picked it up 
from the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and 
front suspension over the last year.  It is like driving a new car! 
it is finally what a 124 was supposed to be.  The biggest single 
difference was probably the rear subframe mounts.

Ok, it is really not a new car, and I actually bought it 4 years ago, 
but it was seriously neglected.  As I reconstructed its past, it was 
sold new at Autohaus Dallas, then went through the Dallas charity 
sale that Rich used to post on here.  Some guy in Memphis shipped it 
there, put a new battery in it and put it on fleabay.  I bought it 
off fleabay, and it was worse than described, so it has been a long 
haul getting it decent.  I paid too much for it, but it is smoke 
silver with burgundy interior, and that is the only combination I 
ever got attached to other than NOT black and NOT white...

Anyhow, it drives great! light and agile, but stable!  It may be the 
best handling 124 I have ever driven.  It is the only one that i had 
to go through all the suspension.

Now the SDL needs ball joints and steering idler bushings...

I'd highly recommend doing all the rear and the subframe mounts at 
once, and all the front end at once.  Time and other resources didn't 
allow me to do it all in once, but it is finally ready for the road!

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Re: [MBZ] my new car!

[Dieselhead]

On mine, the rear was the big problem,  it had way busted subframe 
mounts, and bad links.  It was only after that was fixed that i 
figured out the front end had problems.  The new rear subframe mounts 
were the single biggest improvement.


It never ends, that is for sure.


If the improvement in the rear is as significant as the improvement 
from doing the font end, I need to get busy!


Seriously, I only need a few more bits and I'm ready for the whole 
thing, once we get the engine back together and installed in my 
brother's SDL (the one that got a fractured oil pan and spun rod 
bearing).


It never ends!

I must say that new steering box, idler arm bushings, drag link, tie 
rods, and steering damper made a HUGE difference -- and I can now 
hear the rear subframe moving around and the torque links 
clunking


Peter


-Original Message-

From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Apr 12, 2010 9:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] my new car!

Now that I got your attention, it is an 87 300D.  I just picked it up
from the alignment shop, after rebuilding the rear suspension and
front suspension over the last year.  It is like driving a new car!
it is finally what a 124 was supposed to be.  The biggest single
difference was probably the rear subframe mounts.

Ok, it is really not a new car, and I actually bought it 4 years ago,
but it was seriously neglected.  As I reconstructed its past, it was
sold new at Autohaus Dallas, then went through the Dallas charity
sale that Rich used to post on here.  Some guy in Memphis shipped it
there, put a new battery in it and put it on fleabay.  I bought it
off fleabay, and it was worse than described, so it has been a long
haul getting it decent.  I paid too much for it, but it is smoke
silver with burgundy interior, and that is the only combination I
ever got attached to other than NOT black and NOT white...

Anyhow, it drives great! light and agile, but stable!  It may be the
best handling 124 I have ever driven.  It is the only one that i had
to go through all the suspension.

Now the SDL needs ball joints and steering idler bushings...

I'd highly recommend doing all the rear and the subframe mounts at
once, and all the front end at once.  Time and other resources didn't
allow me to do it all in once, but it is finally ready for the road!

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Re: [MBZ] My new car

[Hans Neureiter]

I can see you going down Katy freeway in rush hour.

On 5/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not sure if it will pass inspection.

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Re: [MBZ] My new car

[Rich Thomas]

Yeah, I'll be passing everyone else.

--R

Hans Neureiter wrote:

I can see you going down Katy freeway in rush hour.

On 5/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Not sure if it will pass inspection.

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