Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
I've got an unrestricted concealed carry permit, I'm already on the list ... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 8:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Yeah but now you're on a list. ;-) On Sat, May 14, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I ordered shotgun shells from MO to MA and they showed up in just 2 > days. > I was surprised I could get them delivered to my house at all, the > speed was a bonus. > Curt > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:29 PM, greg via > Mercedes wrote: Funny enough with all the > recent complaints about slow deliveries and > non-deliveries: > > I ordered the tires yesterday afternoon, they showed up on my doorstep > this morning! > > G > >> That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one >> tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the >> warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. >> >> According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but >> front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata >> for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, >> they should be here Tues. >> >> Greg >> >> >>> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >>> to install less than 4 new tires. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
Yeah but now you're on a list. ;-) On Sat, May 14, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I ordered shotgun shells from MO to MA and they showed up in just 2 > days. > I was surprised I could get them delivered to my house at all, the > speed was a bonus. > Curt > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:29 PM, greg via > Mercedes wrote: Funny enough with all the > recent complaints about slow deliveries and > non-deliveries: > > I ordered the tires yesterday afternoon, they showed up on my doorstep > this morning! > > G > >> That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one >> tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the >> warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. >> >> According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but >> front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata >> for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, >> they should be here Tues. >> >> Greg >> >> >>> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >>> to install less than 4 new tires. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
I ordered shotgun shells from MO to MA and they showed up in just 2 days. I was surprised I could get them delivered to my house at all, the speed was a bonus. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 4:29 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: Funny enough with all the recent complaints about slow deliveries and non-deliveries: I ordered the tires yesterday afternoon, they showed up on my doorstep this morning! G > That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one > tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the > warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. > > According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but > front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata > for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, > they should be here Tues. > > Greg > > >> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >> to install less than 4 new tires. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
It took ten days to get the Michelin Cross Climate 2s I ordered from Costco. Nevertheless, those tires are awesome. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2022, at 2:49 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: > > Funny enough with all the recent complaints about slow deliveries and > non-deliveries: > > I ordered the tires yesterday afternoon, they showed up on my doorstep > this morning! > > G > >> That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one >> tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the >> warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. >> >> According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but >> front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata >> for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, >> they should be here Tues. >> >> Greg >> >> >>> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >>> to install less than 4 new tires. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
Funny enough with all the recent complaints about slow deliveries and non-deliveries: I ordered the tires yesterday afternoon, they showed up on my doorstep this morning! G > That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one > tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the > warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. > > According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but > front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata > for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, > they should be here Tues. > > Greg > > >> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >> to install less than 4 new tires. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
I just checked and the tires on my ML350 are Toyos. -D > On May 14, 2022, at 8:07 AM, greg via Mercedes wrote: > > That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one > tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the > warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. > > According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but > front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata > for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, > they should be here Tues. > > Greg > > >> A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse >> to install less than 4 new tires. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
That is the problem I'm facing now. I hit something that destroyed one tire on the '02 ML320. Michelin LTX from Costco. I called Costco about the warranty from 4 yrs. ago. The tire is NLA. According to the manual, the tires on each side must be the same, but front and rear axles may be different. So, Costco will give me pro-rata for TWO tires. I ordered a pair of well rated Yokohamas from Tire Rack, they should be here Tues. Greg > A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse > to install less than 4 new tires. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
The AWD vehicles I owned (320ML) had no freewheeling of any wheels at any time. Same with the current Subaru. The donut wheel/tire is for limited use - just enough to get you to a tire shop, and to be driven at a low speed. I don't know what the tire diameter difference tolerance is, but I can see the tire shops not replacing one tire for liability reasons - they don't want to be replacing differentials. On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 4:04 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse > to install less than 4 new tires. They claim that there's enough difference > in diameter on the old tires, either due to wear or because different > brands are slightly different. > > I'm 50:50 on whether it's a scam. I'd say replacing a fairly new tire with > one of the same brand and size should be OK. And AWD normally only engages > if the drive wheels are turning faster than the free wheels (i.e. > slipping), so as long as the new tires are on the drive wheels it should > generally be OK? 4WD should only be used on loose/slippery surfaces so it > should not be an issue either. > > And there's no way that the donut spare most cars come with is going to be > exactly the same diameter as the full-service tires but for some reason > that's not a problem? > > Allan > > > On Fri, May 13, 2022, at 1:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird > > size, limited offerings) do make a difference. > > > > My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could > > get them as I only needed one when I got it. > > > > I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but > > never noticed the brand. > > > > -D > > > >> On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> For the 05ML500 > >> > >> I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size > (they are not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were > like 8yo, Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started > shaking like crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had > thrown a weight and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to > check it out. Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in > the vehicle! > >> > >> Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better > ride, handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was > thinking on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for > the imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iFōn > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
On 2022-05-13 15:57, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: That must be a pretty leaky tire to go down enough to trigger ABS. I think the window of variance can be altered with DAS/SDS, too. It leaks about a pound a week. Has ever since I bought the thing with nearly new tires on it. I suspect it's a rim leak. I keep meaning to take it to Farm Bureau and have them dunk it. They have an 8' tank they check tractor tires in, complete with an air ram to shove the tires underwater. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
That must be a pretty leaky tire to go down enough to trigger ABS. I think the window of variance can be altered with DAS/SDS, too. -D > On May 13, 2022, at 12:39 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-05-13 14:56, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> There are some AWD cars where the variance between wheel rotation can >> be enough to make the nannies mad if you have a big difference in >> diameter. I think Subarus are one of the offenders, if I recall. >> I don’t think the W163 MLs care - it’s more of a mechanical system >> than electronic, so while wheel/tire rotation is monitored, I don’t >> think it affects anything as far as nannies are concerned. > > ESP, 4Matic, and ABS all rely on the wheels turning about the same speed. > > If I don't keep an eye on my leaky W163 tire, the ABS light comes on to > remind me the rpms are out of spec. > Never triggered ESP or traction control the day before the ABS light came on, > so I assume no lights = close enough on tire size. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
On 2022-05-13 14:56, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: There are some AWD cars where the variance between wheel rotation can be enough to make the nannies mad if you have a big difference in diameter. I think Subarus are one of the offenders, if I recall. I don’t think the W163 MLs care - it’s more of a mechanical system than electronic, so while wheel/tire rotation is monitored, I don’t think it affects anything as far as nannies are concerned. ESP, 4Matic, and ABS all rely on the wheels turning about the same speed. If I don't keep an eye on my leaky W163 tire, the ABS light comes on to remind me the rpms are out of spec. Never triggered ESP or traction control the day before the ABS light came on, so I assume no lights = close enough on tire size. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
Spares are scary on W163s, as they’re tough to get at, even worse if the car has been north of the Mason-Dixon Line. They hold a lot of road cruft, which comes down on you when you drop the wheel out of the carrier. -D > On May 13, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > It rides not so much like a truck now which is really surprising. These > tires must have much softer sidewalls. Even coming down my driveway that is > sorta rough with some big tree roots, it was a noticeably less rough ride > though still the truck aspect came through. > > I wonder what it was like new. I think maybe it had Michelins on it? I’ll > have to look at the spare. I saved one of the take-offs I’ll get on the spare > since it is an original tire. Should have had them do it today but I forgot > about it until I got there and didn’t want them to have to mess around with > it. > > It’s amazing what a difference tires can make. Handling seemed more direct > too. I’ll call it a success. Since I don’t drive the thing that much they > should last awhile. > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On May 13, 2022, at 2:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird size, >> limited offerings) do make a difference. >> >> My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could get >> them as I only needed one when I got it. >> >> I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but never >> noticed the brand. >> >> -D >> On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> For the 05ML500 >>> >>> I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size (they >>> are not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were like >>> 8yo, Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started shaking >>> like crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had thrown a >>> weight and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to check it >>> out. Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in the >>> vehicle! >>> >>> Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better ride, >>> handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was thinking >>> on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for the >>> imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
There are some AWD cars where the variance between wheel rotation can be enough to make the nannies mad if you have a big difference in diameter. I think Subarus are one of the offenders, if I recall. I don’t think the W163 MLs care - it’s more of a mechanical system than electronic, so while wheel/tire rotation is monitored, I don’t think it affects anything as far as nannies are concerned. When I got my former ML500 the right rear tire was really bad from a wear standpoint, I never figured out why. I thought it might have had a bad bearing, but if it did someone had fixed it. My tire guy didn’t care about one tire. He agreed the other three were in excellent shape and had little wear. -D > On May 13, 2022, at 11:19 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse to > install less than 4 new tires. They claim that there's enough difference in > diameter on the old tires, either due to wear or because different brands are > slightly different. > > I'm 50:50 on whether it's a scam. I'd say replacing a fairly new tire with > one of the same brand and size should be OK. And AWD normally only engages if > the drive wheels are turning faster than the free wheels (i.e. slipping), so > as long as the new tires are on the drive wheels it should generally be OK? > 4WD should only be used on loose/slippery surfaces so it should not be an > issue either. > > And there's no way that the donut spare most cars come with is going to be > exactly the same diameter as the full-service tires but for some reason > that's not a problem? > > Allan > > >> On Fri, May 13, 2022, at 1:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird >> size, limited offerings) do make a difference. >> >> My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could >> get them as I only needed one when I got it. >> >> I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but >> never noticed the brand. >> >> -D >> On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> For the 05ML500 >>> >>> I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size (they >>> are not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were like >>> 8yo, Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started shaking >>> like crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had thrown a >>> weight and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to check it >>> out. Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in the >>> vehicle! >>> >>> Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better ride, >>> handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was thinking >>> on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for the >>> imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
It rides not so much like a truck now which is really surprising. These tires must have much softer sidewalls. Even coming down my driveway that is sorta rough with some big tree roots, it was a noticeably less rough ride though still the truck aspect came through. I wonder what it was like new. I think maybe it had Michelins on it? I’ll have to look at the spare. I saved one of the take-offs I’ll get on the spare since it is an original tire. Should have had them do it today but I forgot about it until I got there and didn’t want them to have to mess around with it. It’s amazing what a difference tires can make. Handling seemed more direct too. I’ll call it a success. Since I don’t drive the thing that much they should last awhile. --FT Sent from iFōn > On May 13, 2022, at 2:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird size, > limited offerings) do make a difference. > > My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could get > them as I only needed one when I got it. > > I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but never > noticed the brand. > > -D > >> On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> For the 05ML500 >> >> I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size (they >> are not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were like >> 8yo, Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started shaking like >> crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had thrown a weight >> and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to check it out. >> Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in the vehicle! >> >> Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better ride, >> handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was thinking >> on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for the >> imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
A potential problem with 4WD/AWD vehicles is that some shops will refuse to install less than 4 new tires. They claim that there's enough difference in diameter on the old tires, either due to wear or because different brands are slightly different. I'm 50:50 on whether it's a scam. I'd say replacing a fairly new tire with one of the same brand and size should be OK. And AWD normally only engages if the drive wheels are turning faster than the free wheels (i.e. slipping), so as long as the new tires are on the drive wheels it should generally be OK? 4WD should only be used on loose/slippery surfaces so it should not be an issue either. And there's no way that the donut spare most cars come with is going to be exactly the same diameter as the full-service tires but for some reason that's not a problem? Allan On Fri, May 13, 2022, at 1:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird > size, limited offerings) do make a difference. > > My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could > get them as I only needed one when I got it. > > I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but > never noticed the brand. > > -D > >> On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> For the 05ML500 >> >> I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size (they >> are not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were like >> 8yo, Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started shaking like >> crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had thrown a weight >> and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to check it out. >> Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in the vehicle! >> >> Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better ride, >> handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was thinking >> on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for the >> imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New rubbers
It still drives/rides like a truck, I’ll bet. But good tires (weird size, limited offerings) do make a difference. My former ML had Kumhos or some Asian brand. Luckily, my tire guy could get them as I only needed one when I got it. I need to look at what’s on the 2003 ML350. They’re in good shape, but never noticed the brand. -D > On May 13, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > For the 05ML500 > > I ordered a set of Kumho Krugen tires from Amazon in the right size (they are > not real common) and got them installed today. The old ones were like 8yo, > Lizetti was the brand, cheap but seemed decent. LF started shaking like > crazy, I thought it had loosed a belt but turned out it had thrown a weight > and needed 6oz according to the tire shop. I asked them to check it out. > Anyway it was time to get new tires. Doubled my investment in the vehicle! > > Driving home from the shop I can’t believe what a difference. Better ride, > handling and much quieter even on the beattohell interstate. I was thinking > on the way up there how rough this thing rides even accounting for the > imbalance. Transformed. Pretty amazing. > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
