Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
> Donald wrote: > > What do you all think of this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 > Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. Others mention it's an '87. No, I did not take the time to load a huge page. > I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like > that. I know the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, > so it has the heavy duty suspension and heavy duty transmission. The transmission in '87 would be the 700R4 - not a heavy duty transmission from the factory. In '92 the name changed to 4L60. I don't think there was any difference in the transmission from the 1/2 ton up. From the factory. Aftermarket rebuilds can make it a strong, sturdy transmission. I don't know about '87, but in the years prior there was a light and a heavy 3/4 ton. Look at the VGW to see which it is. The suspension on the light 3/4 ton is not much different than the 1/2 ton. The heavy 3/4 ton gets the heavier axle, bigger brakes, etc. > Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any > real evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the > underside. But, am I looking in the wrong place? Rust shows up in the back corners between the bumper and the wheels, the bottom of the doors, rocker panels, front wheel fender aft of the wheel. Factory paint peals off as they had not yet figured out how to use the EPA mandated paint process. Especially bad on the roof. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
I had a brand new 1988 Suburban with the 350 TBI engine, base model, almost no options besides heat, AC and radio, with rubber floor mats. Great vehicle, plenty of power, easy to drive, and surprisingly good gas mileage considering the size and weight. Got rid of it a few years later when my round trip commute went from 5 miles to 70. I traded it in on a brand new 91 Ford Escort wagon. Dummy dealer sales guy who was just a pup didn't calculate the residual on the lease and had to eat it when I traded it. Lost his job over that mistake. Ouch. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > They do not display right away on a phone > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Somebody didn't scroll down... >> -Curt >> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin >> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban >> >> Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> What do you all think of this: >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 >>> Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. >>> >>> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know >>> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty >>> suspension and heavy duty transmission. >>> >>> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have >>> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on >>> the exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like >>> these. >>> >>> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real >>> evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I >>> looking in the wrong place? >>> >>> Don Snook >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
They do not display right away on a phone Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Somebody didn't scroll down... > -Curt > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban > > Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> What do you all think of this: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 >> Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. >> >> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know >> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty >> suspension and heavy duty transmission. >> >> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have >> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the >> exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. >> >> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence >> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking >> in the wrong place? >> >> Don Snook >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
Somebody didn't scroll down... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > What do you all think of this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 > Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. > > I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know > the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty > suspension and heavy duty transmission. > > I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have > always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the > exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. > > Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence > of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in > the wrong place? > > Don Snook > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
If this one had the 6.2 diesel it would be closer to being worth 7k Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will say the same thing that I said about the Jeep Wagoneer. > It would make a good hobby vehicle for you but I cannot see it as your daily > driver. > You have an old pickup truck if I recall. It would be a lot like driving your > old pickup all the time. > Sort of a fun vehicle to have around but not if you have to use it every day. > > I drove a 1986 Chevy Suburban for almost 10 years but that was a while back. > I got it in August 1991 and sold it in December 2000. > It was useful as it had 3 rows of bench seating and seatbelts for 9 people. > The engine never caused much trouble but the AT did. 700R4 transmissions were > not wonderful. > Not much else was trouble - did normal stuff like tires, brakes, ball joints > etc. > AC was a bit of trouble as it had rear air and the lines under the truck > feeding the back unit would corrode with salt and leak. I had them replaced > twice. > Paint was not wonderful. I had it completely repaired and re-painted but > within a couple of years, it needed more repairs- especially around the rear > quarters and back doors. > > Newer vehicles - especially trucks drive much nicer, make better mileage, and > are much quieter. I like the look of the old ones but I am not interested in > swapping my 2013 F150 Supercrew for an 80's Suburban. > > RB > >> On 16/09/2016 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: >> What do you all think of this: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 >> Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. >> >> I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know >> the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty >> suspension and heavy duty transmission. >> >> I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have >> always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the >> exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. >> >> Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence >> of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking >> in the wrong place? >> >> Don Snook >> ___ > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
Ok well in that case it might be worth it but still way on the high side Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:32:19 + Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > >> What do you all think of this: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 > > >> Too [sic] see the pictures you have to look in the description. > > Yes, 150 of them! > > The outside does look sharp. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
Seems expensive for no more photos than they have posted Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > What do you all think of this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 > Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. > > I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know > the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty > suspension and heavy duty transmission. > > I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have > always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the > exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. > > Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence > of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in > the wrong place? > > Don Snook > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
It's not a Mercedes - friends don't let friends drive non-Mercedes . . . . On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What do you all think of this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash= > item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 Too see the > pictures you have to look in the description. > > I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know > the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty > suspension and heavy duty transmission. > > I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have > always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on > the exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like > these. > > Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real > evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I > looking in the wrong place? > > Don Snook > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
I will say the same thing that I said about the Jeep Wagoneer. It would make a good hobby vehicle for you but I cannot see it as your daily driver. You have an old pickup truck if I recall. It would be a lot like driving your old pickup all the time. Sort of a fun vehicle to have around but not if you have to use it every day. I drove a 1986 Chevy Suburban for almost 10 years but that was a while back. I got it in August 1991 and sold it in December 2000. It was useful as it had 3 rows of bench seating and seatbelts for 9 people. The engine never caused much trouble but the AT did. 700R4 transmissions were not wonderful. Not much else was trouble - did normal stuff like tires, brakes, ball joints etc. AC was a bit of trouble as it had rear air and the lines under the truck feeding the back unit would corrode with salt and leak. I had them replaced twice. Paint was not wonderful. I had it completely repaired and re-painted but within a couple of years, it needed more repairs- especially around the rear quarters and back doors. Newer vehicles - especially trucks drive much nicer, make better mileage, and are much quieter. I like the look of the old ones but I am not interested in swapping my 2013 F150 Supercrew for an 80's Suburban. RB On 16/09/2016 11:32 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: What do you all think of this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty suspension and heavy duty transmission. I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in the wrong place? Don Snook ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
I had an 87 Blazer, same truck. Very agricultural. Not much to go wrong. I really liked it but it pretty much rusted out around the back tailgate (NE truck). TBI engine is your basic 350, would probably benefit from a EFI upgrade that is readily available, or just a new carb. There is minimal emissions junk on it. There is an app I found, and made a little dongle to plug into the port, to watch what the TBI engine is doing on this app on an XP laptop. If it is in nice shape, it would probably run pretty much forever, not a lot to go wrong, and what might go wrong is eminently fixable. I put a new tranny on mine at some point, which is sitting in the garage attached to a new engine I put in it (and then removed when I gave the hulk away). --FT On 9/16/16 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats a beauty. '87 is the first year for the injected engine I think but theres not much that goes wrong with them. I wouldn't say its a "great" engine, its underpowered for its displacement but that does make them rugged. 3/4 ton will ride rougher than a 1/2 ton will and of course with live axles this won't handle terrifically well. Mileage won't be terrific but then again we've already discussed that if you don't drive all that much it probably doesn't matter. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Donald Snook Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Suburban What do you all think of this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty suspension and heavy duty transmission. I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in the wrong place? Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:32:19 + Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: > What do you all think of this: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 > Too [sic] see the pictures you have to look in the description. Yes, 150 of them! The outside does look sharp. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Suburban
Thats a beauty. '87 is the first year for the injected engine I think but theres not much that goes wrong with them. I wouldn't say its a "great" engine, its underpowered for its displacement but that does make them rugged. 3/4 ton will ride rougher than a 1/2 ton will and of course with live axles this won't handle terrifically well. Mileage won't be terrific but then again we've already discussed that if you don't drive all that much it probably doesn't matter. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Donald Snook Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Suburban What do you all think of this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Suburban-/172337688513?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2820206fc1%3Ag%3AYqIAAOSwknJX1Ig0&item=172337688513 Too see the pictures you have to look in the description. I'm not looking for comments about it is ugly or things like that. I know the 350 TBI is a great engine and this is a ¾ ton, so it has the heavy duty suspension and heavy duty transmission. I am asking because I am trying to look at this without emotion. I have always liked the big square suburbans and this is my favorite colors (on the exterior). So, I am trying not be blinded by the fact that I like these. Too me, it looks like it is in great shape and I don't see any real evidence of rust other than minor surface rust on the underside. But, am I looking in the wrong place? Don Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT suburban (was annoying drivers)
Speaking of suburbans, has anyone looked at replacing the stock stanadyne model 80 sieve (on an 86 6.2L oil burner) with a FM 100 like is on the 6.5L turbos? It looks like a little wiring harness adaptation (WIF sensor and fuel heater lines), bracket fabrication, and placing a water drain valve. Can anyone confirm/deny this? Thanks. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:12, Rich Thomas wrote: > On another aspect, my wife was driving up to Chapel Hill the other day, and > out in the middle of nowhere on I95 she had a LF blowout on the Suburban. > From her description I thought it might have been a puncture from something > on the road, she was not sure but she thought she heard something hit the > inner fender, or something indicating an acute failure. Anyway, she called > AAA and they put on the spare. The tires were getting to the point they > needed to be replaced, so she had that done up there, and they put the > blown-out tire in a bag for her to bring home to show me. I took one look at > it, and right in the middle of the tread was perfect 1/4" punched hole, with > a circle around it about 1.25" diameter, looked like a bolt or something had > hit it straight on. She probably heard the bolt hit the fender when it got > thrown out. The tire was totally destroyed, the sidewalls ripped open most > of the way around, radially, and a good part of the tread belt was separated > from both sides. So it just decompressed almost immediately from that > puncture and almost totally shredded. > > It kinda freaked her out, but she managed to get the truck off the road OK > and not lose (loose) control or anything. > > Teaching her to change a tire is a futile effort, and probably safer anyway > to have someone come to do it on that road. > > $800 for a new set of tires installed...damn those things have got expensive. > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I have a client who used to run a big block 4X4 Suburban. This would have been old enough to be carb rather than fi. He said it did about 6 mpg - summer, winter, highway, city, towing or not, loaded or empty. Almost no variation - just a flat 6 mpg. I don't think I can afford one of those. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban Wonko the Sane wrote: > > My BIL (Jeff) has told me that the "big" SUV diesels get surprisingly good > MPG., better than the smaller diesel blocks. That would lead me to believe > that in the long run a 7.4 might actually be *more* fuel efficient than a > 5.7 version. The 6.2 and 6.5 are decent diesels, and AFAIK, might be more efficient than the original 5.7 conversion. However, the 454 gasser (AKA 7.4) is, and always has been, a thirsty beast. IIRC a 454 Vette makes a 450SL look thrifty, and a 'burb is worse. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
Except that the aforementioned engines are gas engines, not diesels. Wonko the Sane wrote: > My BIL (Jeff) has told me that the "big" SUV diesels get surprisingly good > MPG., better than the smaller diesel blocks. That would lead me to believe > that in the long run a 7.4 might actually be *more* fuel efficient than a > 5.7 version. > > On Dec 18, 2007 2:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? >> I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems >> dirt cheap to me. >> >> --- >> Kaleb C. Striplin >> Cox Auto Trader >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh, my error. I was talking "big" diesels. Didn't realize the 7.4 was a gasser. On 12/20/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > > My BIL (Jeff) has told me that the "big" SUV diesels get surprisingly > good > > MPG., better than the smaller diesel blocks. That would lead me to > believe > > that in the long run a 7.4 might actually be *more* fuel efficient than > a > > 5.7 version. > > The 6.2 and 6.5 are decent diesels, and AFAIK, might be more efficient > than the original 5.7 conversion. However, the 454 gasser (AKA 7.4) is, > and always has been, a thirsty beast. IIRC a 454 Vette makes a 450SL look > thrifty, and a 'burb is worse. > > Mitch. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wonko the Sane wrote: > > My BIL (Jeff) has told me that the "big" SUV diesels get surprisingly good > MPG., better than the smaller diesel blocks. That would lead me to believe > that in the long run a 7.4 might actually be *more* fuel efficient than a > 5.7 version. The 6.2 and 6.5 are decent diesels, and AFAIK, might be more efficient than the original 5.7 conversion. However, the 454 gasser (AKA 7.4) is, and always has been, a thirsty beast. IIRC a 454 Vette makes a 450SL look thrifty, and a 'burb is worse. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My BIL (Jeff) has told me that the "big" SUV diesels get surprisingly good MPG., better than the smaller diesel blocks. That would lead me to believe that in the long run a 7.4 might actually be *more* fuel efficient than a 5.7 version. On Dec 18, 2007 2:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? > I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems > dirt cheap to me. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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go out stomping duramaxes on the grade. Need the dodge for that. No Kiddin'! The new '07 6.7L Cummins (why do people say "Cummings") has more power than the '06 did even though it's heavier with 4WD. Maybe the light shorter box makes up for it? I can't wait to put the travel trailer behind it to see what it'll do. I just got a recall notice for an ECM reprogram and a new O2 sensor, something about the computer not recognizing a failed O2 sensor. According to the notice, drivability may be improved. vroom vroom! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula '07 Dodge 4X4 q-cab shortbox 6.7L Cummins Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 87 K30 crewcab dually I ended up with has turned out to be a pretty good truck for pretty cheap. The 6.2 isn't a powerhouse, but it does fine for what I need, as long as I don't get any hairbrained ideas about loading the bed with firewood, putting a heavy car on the trailer, and go out stomping duramaxes on the grade. Need the dodge for that. The truck used to belong to a friend. I remember it wasn't too happy pulling grades with a slide-in camper towing a boat... On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 09:19:10AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Yea, I like the 6.2. I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:14:12 -0600, John wrote: > Curt Raymond wrote: > > I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. > > The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better > than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent > dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. My favorite instrument cluster is the 67-72. Except that I sometimes think I can see that huge fuel gauge move! A 15 gallon tank and a looong pointer make for lots of needle motion! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd of course put in a new cd player/digital tuner but yeah I like the gauges on the Pre-'88 alot. I don't like the '88 and onward much at all... I like dial speedos. I also like the wrap around console on the pre-'88. My wife hates it since she can't sneak in and change the radio station. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:14:12 -0600 From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. Mom has a 2000 Yukon and it looks pretty nice on the inside. Pretty comfortable too (even on long trips). John - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb typed: "I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck." There is a sentence you don't see everyday... Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea, I like the 6.2. I sure wish I would have kept my firetruck. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > > I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. > While we're dreaming I'd like a 2500 w/6.2l (so I can afford to drive it) > long bed 4wd in robins egg blue. > > I used one with a 350 for plowing one winter, comfortable truck. > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: > I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. The dashboard/instrument cluster even? I guess its better than the ones in the early 90's. IMO, the only decent dashboard/instrument cluster was the 95+ trucks. Mom has a 2000 Yukon and it looks pretty nice on the inside. Pretty comfortable too (even on long trips). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the interior on the pre'88 GM trucks too. While we're dreaming I'd like a 2500 w/6.2l (so I can afford to drive it) long bed 4wd in robins egg blue. I used one with a 350 for plowing one winter, comfortable truck. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:03:22 -0600 From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kaleb wrote: "Since its a 98 it would be injected" ALL chevy and GMC trucks have had fuel injection since 1988. In fact, GMC made a few 350 with fuel injection in 1987. I still want one of those - a Fire Engine RED 1987 GMC 4X4 Shortbed with the fuel injected 350. 87 was the last year for the boxier body style before they switch bodies in 88. Donald H. Snook - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> I like that bigger, boxier GM truckSuburban body style too. > The crewcabs and 'burbs didn't change over to the rounded body > until '92. Looking back, I sure miss the '91 Suburban that we > had, an 8 passenger 1500 4wd GMC with the 350. It was a huge > mistake to trade it on the '93, smaller with way less rear > seat room. Later, we got a '99, the last year of that body > style, and it was far better than the '93 with better turning > radius, better ride and more power with the last revision of > the Vortec 350. > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR My '85 1/2 ton with carburetor-equipped 350 (5.7L) now has well over 350,000. Original engine, original carburetor (rebuilt twice), 2nd alternator, 2nd starter, 2nd AC compressor, 2nd differential, original tires (kidding!!), and 4th transmission. This transmission just lost torque-converter lockup. I haven't done any troubleshooting yet. To be fair, I new one of those transmissions wasn't going to last long - but it was cheap (free) and I had more time than money at that point. I've now got a line on a similar vintage 3/4 ton with a 6.2 diesel. No, I'm _not_ giving any location details!! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like that bigger, boxier GM truckSuburban body style too. The crewcabs and 'burbs didn't change over to the rounded body until '92. Looking back, I sure miss the '91 Suburban that we had, an 8 passenger 1500 4wd GMC with the 350. It was a huge mistake to trade it on the '93, smaller with way less rear seat room. Later, we got a '99, the last year of that body style, and it was far better than the '93 with better turning radius, better ride and more power with the last revision of the Vortec 350. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: > > I had great fun teasing people about how little they were saving on > fuel The situation changes, but the habits remain. There used to be quite a gap between Michigna and Ontario fuel prices. Last time I went through Soo, gas was about $1.15 downstate, I think I paid $1.28 at Soo MI, and it was around $0.70 in Soo Ont. and as high as $0.75 up hwy 17 on the way to Wawa. Even at 3:2 exchange rate Soo MI was cheaper than Canadian prices. $0.7 x 3.8 x 2/3 = $1.77. I filled up in Grayling, then topped off the tank in Soo to make sure I could make it to Wawa and back without buying fuel in Ontario. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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US, Canada is all metric. I had great fun teasing people about how little they were saving on fuel (I was in Sault Ste. Marie, just a one mile trip from the US, $1.50 in bridge tickets) because they insisted in using the conversion to Imperial gallons, not US. You had to buy 30 gal of gas and a gallon on milk to pay for the tickets... Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My '79 Chevy van [Beauville 20] had less than 2 mpg difference between a flat road, empty, no AC and climbing mountains with 10 people and luggage with full AC. That I couldn't understand. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/18/07 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban If it's a carbureted 454, it will get 5 mpg empty, full, towing a trailer, or coasting downhill with the tranny neutral. 6 mpg with a 50 mph tailwind. I don't know how GM did that, usually load makes a difference, but not on that beast! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: "Since its a 98 it would be injected" ALL chevy and GMC trucks have had fuel injection since 1988. In fact, GMC made a few 350 with fuel injection in 1987. I still want one of those - a Fire Engine RED 1987 GMC 4X4 Shortbed with the fuel injected 350. 87 was the last year for the boxier body style before they switch bodies in 88. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: > However, one of the researchers at Forestry Canada bought one of the > retired Suburbans with a 305 and OD tranny -- got 25 mpg on the > highway! Imperial or US? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably way off the power curve any time the vehicle is actually moving -- that 454 doesn't spin very fast. Why no one ever put a split rear end in those things amazes me -- split 4:11/3:77 it would get 15 or 18 mpg on the highway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably better then, but if it has 4.11 rear end gears, not much. However, one of the researchers at Forestry Canada bought one of the retired Suburbans with a 305 and OD tranny -- got 25 mpg on the highway! Had to use 3rd gear with a big load, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: > I don't know how GM did that, usually load makes a difference, but not > on that beast! Undergeared? I've noticed the same on dually pickups with 3 speed slushboxes and 4.xx : 1 final drive. It takes so much power to rev up the engine and tranny that any other load is negligible. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Since its a 98 it would be injected --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > If it's a carbureted 454, it will get 5 mpg empty, full, towing a > trailer, or coasting downhill with the tranny neutral. 6 mpg with a 50 > mph tailwind. > > I don't know how GM did that, usually load makes a difference, but not > on that beast! > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If it's a carbureted 454, it will get 5 mpg empty, full, towing a trailer, or coasting downhill with the tranny neutral. 6 mpg with a 50 mph tailwind. I don't know how GM did that, usually load makes a difference, but not on that beast! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A friend has a 96 or 97, can't remember. It hauls large amounts of ass, and has gobs of power. He tows a race car in an enclosed trailer with it, and has no real complaints with it. Then again, it replaced an early suburban with a carbed 454 and TH400. I don't think he's broken double digits with it yet, and really only uses it for trips - he never drives it around town. And his isn't 4x4 either. $2500 is dirt cheap, it should be over twice that. There's something major wrong with it, it has a bazillion miles on it, or the interior's shot. On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 02:29:21PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote: > I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I > figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems dirt > cheap to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea, but I bet it pulled like crazy though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > "I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 > get?" > > > > I have some experience with those. We had one at the dealership I worked > at. We used it to pull a boat. It will get 9-10 mpg (on the highway) > loaded or not. It will pull like a freight train. When we pulled the > boat it would 9 mpg. If we took it on long trips, it would get 10-11 > mpg. It was a beast. > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. > > 300 West Douglas > > P.O. Box 207 > > Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 > > Tel. (316) 263-5851 > > This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client > privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you > have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get?" I have some experience with those. We had one at the dealership I worked at. We used it to pull a boat. It will get 9-10 mpg (on the highway) loaded or not. It will pull like a freight train. When we pulled the boat it would 9 mpg. If we took it on long trips, it would get 10-11 mpg. It was a beast. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I will call the guy and find out I guess. Just not sure I want a 7.4 though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > > > "Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)" wrote: >> >> I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? >> I figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That >> seems dirt cheap to me. > > The cheapest '97 I could find here, after I found that $6k '97 diesel > project, > was $4900. > There's a '97 7.4 for $6500. I'd say that $2500 7.4 is either in sad shape > or > a bargain. Maybe the kids could teach you how to build a still and you > could > run it on alcohol. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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"Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)" wrote: > > I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I > figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems dirt > cheap to me. The cheapest '97 I could find here, after I found that $6k '97 diesel project, was $4900. There's a '97 7.4 for $6500. I'd say that $2500 7.4 is either in sad shape or a bargain. Maybe the kids could teach you how to build a still and you could run it on alcohol. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
geez, see what I mean. Its really not worth the few mpg different to spend the extra to find a diesel one. They almost always have well over 200k (at least what I have seen lately) and want alot for them. the gassers can be cheap if you look. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote: >> >> I dont have one, never have had a 6.5 suburban but from what I hear it >> should get 17-21 or so. I am looking for a 6.5, but they are hard to >> find >> and when you do they have tons of miles on them and they want too much >> for >> them. > > How about this one? > "I modded the engine, now the engine needs work, please give me $6k for > it" > http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2420134 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote: > > I dont have one, never have had a 6.5 suburban but from what I hear it > should get 17-21 or so. I am looking for a 6.5, but they are hard to find > and when you do they have tons of miles on them and they want too much for > them. How about this one? "I modded the engine, now the engine needs work, please give me $6k for it" http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2420134 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
I dont have one, never have had a 6.5 suburban but from what I hear it should get 17-21 or so. I am looking for a 6.5, but they are hard to find and when you do they have tons of miles on them and they want too much for them. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban > On Dec 18, 2007 12:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? >> I >figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That >> seems dirt >cheap to me. > > On the subject---Kaleb, what kind of mileage do you get from your > diesel Suburban? I'm thinking about getting one of the late '90s ones > with the 6.5 liter turbo. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, Suburban
On Dec 18, 2007 12:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had a 5.7 4x4 suburban, what kind of mileage would a 7.4 4x4 get? I > >figure not much but some guy just put one in a 98 for $2500. That seems > dirt >cheap to me. On the subject---Kaleb, what kind of mileage do you get from your diesel Suburban? I'm thinking about getting one of the late '90s ones with the 6.5 liter turbo. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com