Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
This afternoon I did a tank exchange (empty one for a full one) at
Wal-Mart for $16.89. 'Did not turn in the leaking one yet, though.
Grilled coupla mighty good salmon steaks without burning myself nor the
house.
BTW, the two small ('bout 5/8 dia.) burned spots on my hand are healing
fast and nicely - not burned as badly as I first thought.
Wilton
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On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just
swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason
why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier.
Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb
cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or
two less than a swap.
Does Costco sell propane down south?
We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.
RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 17:57:36 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
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BTW, the two small ('bout 5/8 dia.) burned spots on my hand are
healing fast and nicely - not burned as badly as I first thought.
Good!
Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
I haven’t noticed if Costco sells propane here. I’ll be interested to see what Andrew finds out. Dan On Aug 4, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's sick. HD charges more than triple what you pay. I'll check at the Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
the engine ingested all the gas and ran away, destroying the engine. Can't happen unless you put/left it in neutral. The brakes are stronger than the engine. With an automatic you'll be limited to the stall speed of the TC, maybe 1800RPM 'til the outside fuel runs out. On a manny, you should be able to kill the engine. Unless either the brakes or the clutch are weak. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Packing nut leak? Overflow screw leaks? Or was the O-ring that is part of the new connection scheme faulty? (I believe the new plastic handscrew relies upon an O-ring seal. Versus the [old, and still there] LH screw thread seal that is metal-on-metal.) Either way, when suspecting a leak a spray of soapy water is always in order before applying fire! I'm glad there was no lasting damage, to anyone/anything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
On 04/08/2015 2:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or two less than a swap. Does Costco sell propane down south? We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg. RB So we are paying about $10-12 more here, primarily for insurance so the propane companies can protect themselves from shysters. It was not that many years ago I could drive 12-15 miles to a small town and get a tank filled for $8. now most of the exchange places are $18-20 for a partial tank. ___ Lots of places here charging $20 or more too but Costco is very reasonable. I think I paid something like $36 to exchange a 20# tank out at the lake last summer. This time I took one of my city tanks out and brought the empty exchange cylinder home to get it refilled here. I truly want to switch to natural gas here in the city so that I won't run out and won't need to haul the cylinders around quite so often. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I did read on the internet about one fellow who lost the charge of hydrocarbon refrigerant in a leak next to the engine air cleaner intake, so the engine ingested all the gas and ran away, destroying the engine. I can see how the engine could overspeed and self destruct when the injection pump / governor is not controlling the fuel. IIRC that was a 123 car which has the AC lines on the same side of the engine as the intake? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Highly pressurized gasoline no less. IIRC theres a pound or less of hydrocarbons in the Cathey test refrigerant, thats a quart or so of actual fuel, it should flash off pretty quick... -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Curly writes: This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. Meh. Most folks drive around with multiple gallons of extremely explosive liquid (gasoline) in their autos. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or two less than a swap. Does Costco sell propane down south? We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Is it a real 20# fill? The exchange places generally go between 15 and 17#. I'm paying $14 at my local True Value for a real 20# fill. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire That's sick. HD charges more than triple what you pay. I'll check at the Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today.. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or two less than a swap. Does Costco sell propane down south? We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
That's sick. HD charges more than triple what you pay. I'll check at the Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today.. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or two less than a swap. Does Costco sell propane down south? We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Meade wrote: I did read on the internet about one fellow who lost the charge of hydrocarbon refrigerant in a leak next to the engine air cleaner intake, so the engine ingested all the gas and ran away, destroying the engine. One more reason for a manual transmission. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Those swap cylinders are NOT full. they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb cylinder. When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or two less than a swap. Does Costco sell propane down south? We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg. RB So we are paying about $10-12 more here, primarily for insurance so the propane companies can protect themselves from shysters. It was not that many years ago I could drive 12-15 miles to a small town and get a tank filled for $8. now most of the exchange places are $18-20 for a partial tank. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Might have something to do with all those taxes / fees / lawsuits / EPA rules / general harassment associated with, oh maybe something like, could be... Global Warming? Naahh... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's sick. HD charges more than triple what you pay. I'll check at the Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
If my tank gets rusty/scuzzy, i swap it. You don't get much propane on the swap, but it is cheaper than buying a new tank/valve. Thereafter, it can be refilled for a full charge. All my old tanks with the old valves, I managed to swap eventually without having to buy the new safety valve. I much prefer the old unsafe valve with LH threads. The swap shops don't pay much attention to the valve type now. I've only used propane to fry turkeys that past few years. Gas grill stays in the shed. Charcoal/wood tastes better. I took mine in the other day and the kid said it was leaking as he tried to fill it. Says my tank can't be refilled anymore. He did seem to get it about half full and they refunded my money. Half tank of propane for free, score! When it runs out I'll do a tank swap. Its 9 years old and they're only supposedta be good for 10 without testing right? I've never heard of someplace replacing the valve for you, I'd just swap the tank. -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire BTW, I'll find another place to fill my propane tanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery
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Yes a smart if painful move Wilton. First fire call I ever went on was propane filling tank on fire. Not pretty. Dwight On Aug 3, 2015 6:01 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Na, 'told 'em I don't give up easily; 'needed to turn that valve off before it got hot enough to blow off. After it had cooled a bit, I asked 'em to remove/disconnect the tank for me. Didn't realize I was burned a bit (very minor) until they had left and I started washing my hands to find the the 2 sore spots and singed hair. I must have touched the hot underside of the grill to get the burns. My hand was in and out of the flames several times. I think something is wrong with the spring-loaded valve that is opened by installing the regulator and hose. 'Don't know yet. I've never had that problem with another tank. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Wow, very glad you weren't injured any worse! Did the firemen fuss at you for handling the situation yourself and getting burned in the process? I'll be curious to hear what caused the leak, and I totally agree with finding a different place to get your propane tank filled. Soapy water would have revealed that leak when your ears didn't. I have three tanks: one that I own, that came with the grill, one that I bought from the grocery store dispenser cage, so I just swap that out with a filled tank and pay the $20 or whatever, and a third tank same as #2 but neighbor gave it to me when they moved and didn't want to take the time to return it for a refund. I try to keep at least two full tanks on hand. Note to self: hurican season is hear, check your propane tanks... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Waytago! We are glad you are not badly burned. This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. https://archive.org/stream/midamericapipeli00netc/midamericapipeli00netc_djvu.txt I saw the destruction firsthand. Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2015, at 1:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Na, 'told 'em I don't give up easily; 'needed to turn that valve off before it got hot enough to blow off. After it had cooled a bit, I asked 'em to remove/disconnect the tank for me. Didn't realize I was burned a bit (very minor) until they had left and I started washing my hands to find the the 2 sore spots and singed hair. I must have touched the hot underside of the grill to get the burns. My hand was in and out of the flames several times. I think something is wrong with the spring-loaded valve that is opened by installing the regulator and hose. 'Don't know yet. I've never had that problem with another tank. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Wow, very glad you weren't injured any worse! Did the firemen fuss at you for handling the situation yourself and getting burned in the process? I'll be curious to hear what caused the leak, and I totally agree with finding a different place to get your propane tank filled. Soapy water would have revealed that leak when your ears didn't. I have three tanks: one that I own, that came with the grill, one that I bought from the grocery store dispenser cage, so I just swap that out with a filled tank and pay the $20 or whatever, and a third tank same as #2 but neighbor gave it to me when they moved and didn't want to take the time to return it for a refund. I try to keep at least two full tanks on hand. Note to self: hurican season is hear, check your propane tanks... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Waytago! We are glad you are not badly burned. This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. https://archive.org/stream/midamericapipeli00netc/midamericapipeli00netc_djvu.txt I saw the destruction firsthand. Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular
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When i get a tank with wonky valve I swap it. Otherwise i get them filled for 15.00 at the local body shop that restored my CD. On Aug 3, 2015 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2015, at 1:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Curly wrote: This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. From my research, even a non-flammable refrigerant can have a large flame at a leak due to the oil. But I have never tested it myself - or compared the infernos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
My Weber is a Spirit, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Home Depot propane tank swaps are $18.00 around here. Speaking of which, I grilled two types of fish on my Weber Spirit propane grille tonite: bluefish draped with bacon, and a thick salmon steak/ butter. Both fresh fish came from the Great Wall Chinese market. Cooked each one in foil, and they were both moist and delish. Sure beats heating up the house. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:48 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. From my research, even a non-flammable refrigerant can have a large flame at a leak due to the oil. But I have never tested it myself - or compared the infernos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Home Depot propane tank swaps are $18.00 around here. Speaking of which, I grilled two types of fish on my Weber Spirit propane grille tonite: bluefish draped with bacon, and a thick salmon steak/ butter. Both fresh fish came from the Great Wall Chinese market. Cooked each one in foil, and they were both moist and delish. Sure beats heating up the house. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:48 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. From my research, even a non-flammable refrigerant can have a large flame at a leak due to the oil. But I have never tested it myself - or compared the infernos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I took mine in the other day and the kid said it was leaking as he tried to fill it. Says my tank can't be refilled anymore. He did seem to get it about half full and they refunded my money. Half tank of propane for free, score! When it runs out I'll do a tank swap. Its 9 years old and they're only supposedta be good for 10 without testing right? I've never heard of someplace replacing the valve for you, I'd just swap the tank. -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire BTW, I'll find another place to fill my propane tanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
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BTW, I'll find another place to fill my propane tanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Yep, that's what I was worried about - to turn the valve off before the tank got too hot. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire ATTABOY! Flammable gases are not to be taken lightly. I think you dodged one when the tank didn't explode. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Waytago! We are glad you are not badly burned. This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. https://archive.org/stream/midamericapipeli00netc/midamericapipeli00netc_djvu.txt I saw the destruction firsthand. Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
Wow, very glad you weren't injured any worse! Did the firemen fuss at you for handling the situation yourself and getting burned in the process? I'll be curious to hear what caused the leak, and I totally agree with finding a different place to get your propane tank filled. Soapy water would have revealed that leak when your ears didn't. I have three tanks: one that I own, that came with the grill, one that I bought from the grocery store dispenser cage, so I just swap that out with a filled tank and pay the $20 or whatever, and a third tank same as #2 but neighbor gave it to me when they moved and didn't want to take the time to return it for a refund. I try to keep at least two full tanks on hand. Note to self: hurican season is hear, check your propane tanks... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Waytago! We are glad you are not badly burned. This was a considerably bigger propane fire, but it is why I am not thrilled about the Cathey test refrigerant in a car. https://archive.org/stream/midamericapipeli00netc/midamericapipeli00netc_djvu.txt I saw the destruction firsthand. Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
ATTABOY! Flammable gases are not to be taken lightly. I think you dodged one when the tank didn't explode. On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yesterday 'bout 5 PM, I had a few minutes of excitement after installing full, 20 # tank of propane on my Weber grille. 'Had the tank filled 2 or 3 months ago at local hardware store. 'Thought I heard it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve while the clerk lady was filling it, and asked her, Is that bottle leaking at the valve shaft? She replied, Nah, I probably didn't have the fill/charging connection quite tight enough. Coupla months ago, SWMBO had problem with the grille not getting hot enough. I read owner's manual, and realized that she was turning it on in such a manner (too quickly) as to cause a safety feature to keep it from providing high heat. During my tests, I temporarily installed the full tank and found it leaking at the fill/dispensing valve when I opened the valve on top of the tank. I changed the bottles back to the old tank. Coupla days later I took the newly-filled tank back to the hardware store and tried to tell 'em that, indeed, it does leak and asked if they could change the valve. 'Lady who had filled it nearly went ballistic when I tried to ask her if she remembered my concern about it while she was filling it. Another clerk (male) took the bottle to the charging station, plugged it in and declared, Not leaking; ya may not have had the connection tight enough. I replied, Well, I had it as tight as I could get it with a wrench (big pliers). 'Brought the tank back home and sat it on patio/terrace by the grille until I installed it yesterday. When I first opened the valve on top of the tank to start the grille, I heard a slight hiss/leak at the valve; after closing the valve, got on the connection nut again with the big pliers while trying to wiggle the hose. When I opened the valve on top of the tank again, I heard no hiss and proceeded with the grille starting procedure and leaving the doors to the tank compartment open. When I pushed the ignition button, not only did it ignite the grille burners, It ignited a significant flame around the valve on top of the tank in such a manner that I could not reach the valve handle/knob to turn it off! 'Grabbed my cell phone and told Siri to call 911. 'Clearly identified myself, location and situation to the dispatcher, Propane leak with active flame that keeps me from reaching the valve, 'needing help NOW! Dispatcher started asking his questions, and I went through all of it again and finished with, While we're talking, I hope you have a truck underway, I need it now! Fire station is only about 10 to 12 blocks away, so I quickly began to hear the sirens headed my way, and noticed that the flame pattern around the valve and top of the tank had changed slightly so that I may be able to use the pliers to turn the valve bit by bit to turn the gas off. 'Grabbed the pliers and began to get a grip on the hard-to-hold triangular-shaped knob while trying to dodge the flames. After several tries, I began to find a way to grip the knob and turn it off a bit each time. I finally got it off as the fire truck pulled up in front of the house. 'Was literally bar-b-q ing my hand - 'got coupla small first degree burn (very minor) places on inner, top of thumb. Singed hairs on back of fingers, hand and wrist. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
