Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-15 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I was sitting in the Farmers Market Restaurant having lunch one day during the 
1950s not long after New York had banned guns. It was the slow summer season 
for northbound loads of citrus and other crops, and a trucker sitting behind me 
was complaining. I need enough money for fuel to get back to New York, he 
said. The trucker he was talking to said something like: You can make $50 
taking a footlocker full of guns to New York. I can give you a number to call 
if you're interested. I got up and left about then but never forgot that 
little lesson in the way things really are when it comes to guns.
Gerry

 LarryT wrote:
  It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone 
  to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one.  
  Then someone asks them What makes you think they don't have one already?   
It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal.  Even 
  with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when 
  they want one!  They're called criminals for a reason.  The only thing that 
  stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.   All those 
  restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry!
  
  LarryT
  
  On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
  How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?
  
  On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
  She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
  own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.
  
  Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
  orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
  be prepared.
  
  
  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-15 Thread LarryT via Mercedes

You wrote:  the way things really are when it comes to guns.

and laws...

LarryT

On 6/15/2015 2:21 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I was sitting in the Farmers Market Restaurant having lunch one day during the 1950s not long after New York 
had banned guns. It was the slow summer season for northbound loads of citrus and other crops, and a trucker 
sitting behind me was complaining. I need enough money for fuel to get back to New York, he said. 
The trucker he was talking to said something like: You can make $50 taking a footlocker full of guns to 
New York. I can give you a number to call if you're interested. I got up and left about 
then but never forgot that little lesson in the way things really are when it comes to guns.
Gerry

  LarryT wrote:

It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to be able 
to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one.  Then someone asks them 
What makes you think they don't have one already? It seems the snti-gun 
crowd believe a law will stop a criminal.  Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the 
books, the criminals still get guns when they want one!  They're called criminals 
for a reason.  The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a 
gun.   All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry!

LarryT


On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
be prepared.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-14 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want 
everyone to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might 
have one.  Then someone asks them What makes you think they don't have 
one already? It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a 
criminal.  Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals 
still get guns when they want one!  They're called criminals for a 
reason.  The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy 
with a gun.   All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry!


LarryT

On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
be prepared.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
People in general are stupid, especially liberals 

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 On Jun 14, 2015, at 7:33 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to 
 be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one.  Then 
 someone asks them What makes you think they don't have one already? It 
 seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a criminal.  Even with over 
 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals still get guns when they want 
 one!  They're called criminals for a reason.  The only thing that stops a bad 
 guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.   All those restrictive orders just 
 seem to make the ex's angry!
 
 LarryT
 
 On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?
 
 On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
 own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.
 
 Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
 orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
 be prepared.
 
 
 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Law-abiding v. criminal.  If the woman had chosen to be a criminal in 
exercising her Constitutional rights (figure that one out), the ex could 
have been the one purged from society instead of the woman.


The criminal likely either stole it, or bought if from someone who stole 
it or sold it to him illegally.  So criminals...


--R



On 6/10/15 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
be prepared.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
 own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

 Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
 orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
 be prepared.


 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?


Who said it was legal?
News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens prevents 
criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws. Disarming 
non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages crime.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If you read the article.. it says she was STABBED TO DEATH... so he killed
her with a knife...

Later, he shot himself.. source of that gun is unreported.. I wager it was
stolen, and since he was a FELON.. by law, can NEVER legally own a gun..

Last report I heard.. bringing a knife to a gun fight pretty much means you
LOSE... in this case.. the poor dead woman lacked the means to defend
herself.. although she make every legal step to try to..

Sad... It is my opinion the state is responsible for a wrongful death by
denying the woman the right to arm herself while failing to provide
protection for her..

I'm sure the knife the man had cut right through the order of protection
she held in front of her...

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?


 Who said it was legal?
 News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens
 prevents criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws.
 Disarming non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages
 crime.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew, if you had read the article, you would have learned that he used a
knife to kill her.  News flash: knives and blunt force weapons (aka
clubs) are used to kill more people than hand guns.

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 How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

The Ex used a knife.  But it could have been a stick, a boot, or a fist with
the same result.

God made men and women.  Colt made them equal.  

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 From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:15 PM
 
 How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

2015-06-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It should be obvious that anyone with the cash who is willing to break the
law can obtain a gun, despite laws.  



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