Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:46:33 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > ... so she went to some local tar shop and got some Goodyears or > something. She's happy, they were a bit cheaper than the Costco > Bridgestones on sale, so I guess all is good. At least she is not riding on something that will fail at any moment ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
I hear that when Pirellis go flat they go WOPWOPWOP I thought the tires on the girl's car were not that old, they had a lot of good tread. There was a receipt in the package with the car, I thought they might have been fairly new but she says the only receipt was from 2006 and the tires looked like they were dry rotting, so maybe they were old and things were letting go. Costco had told her they could get her in 2 days later so she went to some local tar shop and got some Goodyears or something. She's happy, they were a bit cheaper than the Costco Bridgestones on sale, so I guess all is good. --FT On 4/9/18 9:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: on the Burgundy SDL, I had all 4PIRELLI tires slip belts badly on one 70 mile trip to an MBCA meeting. The thing shook like a dog trying to kill a rat. at 25 MPH or less, it wobbled at a shriner's clown car. over 25 it shook terribly. It was a LONG SLOW trip home... Thumbs down on Pirelli. Generals are horrible on snow and ice, but did pretty well on dry pavement. I ran a lot of them on the the high mile SDL when I got tired of going back to dead sams every month or two to get them to warrant their crappy name brand tires. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I HATE wobble from slipped belts. I will say avoid Pirelli also. I do not have any slipped belts but the traction in the rain is like driving on ice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
on the Burgundy SDL, I had all 4PIRELLI tires slip belts badly on one 70 mile trip to an MBCA meeting. The thing shook like a dog trying to kill a rat. at 25 MPH or less, it wobbled at a shriner's clown car. over 25 it shook terribly. It was a LONG SLOW trip home... Thumbs down on Pirelli. Generals are horrible on snow and ice, but did pretty well on dry pavement. I ran a lot of them on the the high mile SDL when I got tired of going back to dead sams every month or two to get them to warrant their crappy name brand tires. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I HATE wobble from slipped belts. I will say avoid Pirelli also. I do not have any slipped belts but the traction in the rain is like driving on ice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
I HATE wobble from slipped belts. I will say avoid Pirelli also. I do not have any slipped belts but the traction in the rain is like driving on ice. On 4/9/2018 8:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Bubbles happen. there does not have to be damage. The last conti I bought, a "made in USA," general tire one) got a bubble on the sidewall very quickly. Wish I could buy German Continentals again/still. Jury is still out on the Barum (owned by conti) They have a few K miles on them, and the Nokia, which also have a few k on them. Cooper CS3: wore out the back two, front ones are still ok. I think I can recommend them for low speeds. <70 Mph. Cooper CS4: (Discontinued) Not happy with them but they had over 50k on them before a couple started to wiggle from slipped belts. They still had a lot of tread left. Still have 2 on the van. So, they are probably ok for most people. I hear people driving on slipped belts all the time, so it seems to not bother many people. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: The only time I've seen a bubble form has been following the sidewall being brushed against something like a curb, etc. (I know, she rec'd the absolute best training from Daddy but accidents happen) Or maybe she loaned it to a friend?. Then the sidewall gets weaker over time until the inner rubber (?) puts more and more pressure against the weakness and gradually pushes through the fracture until a bubble forms which gets larger and larger over time. After raising 3 kids (who also rec'd Daddy's expert training) doing absolutely every thing possible to various cars over the last 40 years or so, this is how I would expect to see a bubble form. IMO, the front tires are the most likely to suffer sidewall damage like you described re: Costco Tires. I agree about their apparent honesty - I also like that they use a Torque Wrench and the mechanics actually know how to use it. Mine uses a Clicker type wrench but other shops have shown they have no clue how to use the wrench. I watched one tire changer tighten the nuts until the wrench clicked then he gave it another 1/2 turn! I had to take it back and get them to loosen the nuts so I had a chance to remove them if ever needed. Good luck! (back to lurk mode) ;-) LarryT 91 300D 06 E350AWD On 04/04/2018 8:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Girl child calls and says LF tire on the E320 has a bubble on the sidewall. Observed that this is likely Not Good. She got the car about a year ago. BFG Tires were fairly new, I recall seeing the receipt in the package of papers. Suggested she go to Costco and ask what they think as I believe they are likely to be more honest than some random tire shop monkey. My sense is this would be a defect in the tire not due to any abuse on her part, she is a surprisingly good driver due to her daddy’s proper training. Anyone know how this might work? I don’t want her to have to eat a new tire(s). --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
Bubbles happen. there does not have to be damage. The last conti I bought, a "made in USA," general tire one) got a bubble on the sidewall very quickly. Wish I could buy German Continentals again/still. Jury is still out on the Barum (owned by conti) They have a few K miles on them, and the Nokia, which also have a few k on them. Cooper CS3: wore out the back two, front ones are still ok. I think I can recommend them for low speeds. <70 Mph. Cooper CS4: (Discontinued) Not happy with them but they had over 50k on them before a couple started to wiggle from slipped belts. They still had a lot of tread left. Still have 2 on the van. So, they are probably ok for most people. I hear people driving on slipped belts all the time, so it seems to not bother many people. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: The only time I've seen a bubble form has been following the sidewall being brushed against something like a curb, etc. (I know, she rec'd the absolute best training from Daddy but accidents happen) Or maybe she loaned it to a friend?. Then the sidewall gets weaker over time until the inner rubber (?) puts more and more pressure against the weakness and gradually pushes through the fracture until a bubble forms which gets larger and larger over time. After raising 3 kids (who also rec'd Daddy's expert training) doing absolutely every thing possible to various cars over the last 40 years or so, this is how I would expect to see a bubble form. IMO, the front tires are the most likely to suffer sidewall damage like you described re: Costco Tires. I agree about their apparent honesty - I also like that they use a Torque Wrench and the mechanics actually know how to use it. Mine uses a Clicker type wrench but other shops have shown they have no clue how to use the wrench. I watched one tire changer tighten the nuts until the wrench clicked then he gave it another 1/2 turn! I had to take it back and get them to loosen the nuts so I had a chance to remove them if ever needed. Good luck! (back to lurk mode) ;-) LarryT 91 300D 06 E350AWD On 04/04/2018 8:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Girl child calls and says LF tire on the E320 has a bubble on the sidewall. Observed that this is likely Not Good. She got the car about a year ago. BFG Tires were fairly new, I recall seeing the receipt in the package of papers. Suggested she go to Costco and ask what they think as I believe they are likely to be more honest than some random tire shop monkey. My sense is this would be a defect in the tire not due to any abuse on her part, she is a surprisingly good driver due to her daddy’s proper training. Anyone know how this might work? I don’t want her to have to eat a new tire(s). --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
The only time I've seen a bubble form has been following the sidewall being brushed against something like a curb, etc. (I know, she rec'd the absolute best training from Daddy but accidents happen) Or maybe she loaned it to a friend?. Then the sidewall gets weaker over time until the inner rubber (?) puts more and more pressure against the weakness and gradually pushes through the fracture until a bubble forms which gets larger and larger over time. After raising 3 kids (who also rec'd Daddy's expert training) doing absolutely every thing possible to various cars over the last 40 years or so, this is how I would expect to see a bubble form. IMO, the front tires are the most likely to suffer sidewall damage like you described re: Costco Tires. I agree about their apparent honesty - I also like that they use a Torque Wrench and the mechanics actually know how to use it. Mine uses a Clicker type wrench but other shops have shown they have no clue how to use the wrench. I watched one tire changer tighten the nuts until the wrench clicked then he gave it another 1/2 turn! I had to take it back and get them to loosen the nuts so I had a chance to remove them if ever needed. Good luck! (back to lurk mode) ;-) LarryT 91 300D 06 E350AWD On 04/04/2018 8:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Girl child calls and says LF tire on the E320 has a bubble on the sidewall. Observed that this is likely Not Good. She got the car about a year ago. BFG Tires were fairly new, I recall seeing the receipt in the package of papers. Suggested she go to Costco and ask what they think as I believe they are likely to be more honest than some random tire shop monkey. My sense is this would be a defect in the tire not due to any abuse on her part, she is a surprisingly good driver due to her daddy’s proper training. Anyone know how this might work? I don’t want her to have to eat a new tire(s). --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
Kudos to girl child for catching it.. you've trained her well to do a pre-flight. On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:55 PM, G Mann wrote: > Remove the tire ASAP. It has FAILED. Any further use is a crap shoot akin > to Russian Roullette. > Danger danger > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Rotate that tire to the rear axle (until replaced) so if it blows, she's >> less likely to lose control of the car. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
Remove the tire ASAP. It has FAILED. Any further use is a crap shoot akin to Russian Roullette. Danger danger On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rotate that tire to the rear axle (until replaced) so if it blows, she's > less likely to lose control of the car. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
Rotate that tire to the rear axle (until replaced) so if it blows, she's less likely to lose control of the car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble
Worth a look. Definitely need to get a different tire on there though, blowouts are not fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
